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Rory stop flipping out, Kiki/Thorn are not done making roster moves yet. If its obvious to us that we have 15 under contract and a logjam of Bigs, its obvious to them as well. Were still looking to add a backup/combo gauard like Pargo or Dooling.

For all those that dont like the Najera deal, just look at the bright side this pretty much ends all the Kwame Brown rumors
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rory @ Jul 12 2008, 03:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I guess I'm just bitter about the success Ed Stefanski is having in Philly.</div>

The only successes in Philly are Billy King, who is now going to get another job, and Mo Cheeks, who still has one.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MarionBarberThe4th @ Jul 12 2008, 04:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Didnt Stefasnki sell Korver twice?</div>

Yes, and now that team has an eerily similar weakness to the Nets when Stefanski was around in that there are no good 3 point shooters

Try to figure that one out.
 
i actually like both the FA signings... we just need to get rid of hassel, swift, trade exempt and kvh's contract
 
Signing Najera is a good move for now and in the future.

There are quite a few people here that want the Nets to play nothing but young players and collect draft picks. The problem is, Lebron James or any other FA for that mater, is not going to sign with a bottom feeding team. The Nets need to prove that they are competitive and only need a star to push them over the top.
 
It amazes me how much people think of the great player we are pursuing. He has never won a damn thing and never will. At best, he is enticing, a tease. At worse, he takes up space.

Cap Space sucks...and I do not believe for one second that the cuts and decisions we are seeing have to do with Lebron James. Lebron James is the opiate of the masses, keeping people interested for the last two years the team is in New Jersey. This is about cutting expenses in a corporation that is losing an incredible amount of money, considering what its real value is. Lebron isn't coming to a team that sucks.

As an Ohio writer noted the other day: "Logic makes it highly unlikely he'd exit his hometown team, a franchise that made the NBA Finals in 2007, to resurrect a squad that must wreck its roster to ink him."
 
NetIncome - are they really cutting costs? With all these signings plus the rookies, there are 16 players currently under contract (17 including Van Horn). It seems like they've haven't been really "dumping" salary - ala 2004 with Martin and Kittles. But you are better with the #s than me, so I'd be interested to see how the salary compares year over year.

Again, the LeBron thing is all just speculation, and is almost as useless to talk about as the summer league is (almost), but if things stay the way they are, LeBron will be joining Vince Carter, Devin Harris, Yi, Sean Williams, the 3 rookies from 2008, and 3 first round picks from 2009 and 2010 (and Najera, I guess). On paper, that can be a very competitive team that LeBron can push over the top.
 
Why do the Nets have too many guys at PF:
Yi, S-Will, StroShow, Boone, Brooke Lopez, Ryan Anderson, Najera, and Hayes.

If they give Boone 25 mpg, and Lopez 23 mpg at the Center position.

Devin plays at PG, with Marcus at backup.
We assume Carter plays at SG for 35 mpg, and CDR plays 13 mpg behind Vince.

At SF and PF.

SF: Simmons, CDR, Hassell, Ager
PF: Edwardo Najera, Yi Jian Lian, Sean Williams, Chuck Hayes, Stromile Swift, Ryan Anderson.

Najera is 32 with knee problems I dont think he is quick enough at SF, S-Will and Hayes are better in the paint as defenders and dont have Js. Stro is a PF,C. Yi could play SF, but seems like he is more naturally a PF rather than chasing around regular sized SFs who are 6-7.

I really hope they dont re-sign Boki and Krstic.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Jul 13 2008, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It amazes me how much people think of the great player we are pursuing. He has never won a damn thing and never will. At best, he is enticing, a tease. At worse, he takes up space.

Cap Space sucks...and I do not believe for one second that the cuts and decisions we are seeing have to do with Lebron James. Lebron James is the opiate of the masses, keeping people interested for the last two years the team is in New Jersey. This is about cutting expenses in a corporation that is losing an incredible amount of money, considering what its real value is. Lebron isn't coming to a team that sucks.

As an Ohio writer noted the other day: "Logic makes it highly unlikely he'd exit his hometown team, a franchise that made the NBA Finals in 2007, to resurrect a squad that must wreck its roster to ink him."</div>

You may be right about the motivations for the moves, but I unhesitatingly believe next year's team will be better than last year's (barring significant injuries to Harris or VC, knock wood) and certainly much more pleasurable to watch. I wouldn't have been as confident saying that before summer league, but Lopez's shooting touch around the basket and out to 20 feet is a revelation. No matter what other problems he has as a rookie, he will instantly have a highly valuable skill that no other big has had in the entire time I've watched NJ (since VC trade). To go with that, the Nets have 2 young, mobile PFs that can space the floor and shoot out to three or put it down for the occasional drive; one of the league's best hustle and chemistry guys; servicable depth at the SF position; a highly competitive, multi-faceted rookie SG with big-time collegiate success and a chip on his shoulder a mild wide to keep him motivated; and a lightning fast point guard with decent vision and touch who is widely considered among the best defensive PGs in the league. The Nets had NONE of those things going into last year. Combine that with the excision of the Kidd cancer and the infusion of youthful enthusiasm, and you get a team that will have chemistry, coshesion, and consistency of effort that will far outpace what we had most of last year.

I don't know whether it will translate into a playoff berth or not as so many factors influence that, not least the apparent improvement of several teams that finished in the 6-12 range in the east last year. But the Nets of 08-09 will be much more interesting than the stale collection of vets that started last year.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FOMW @ Jul 13 2008, 07:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Jul 13 2008, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It amazes me how much people think of the great player we are pursuing. He has never won a damn thing and never will. At best, he is enticing, a tease. At worse, he takes up space.

Cap Space sucks...and I do not believe for one second that the cuts and decisions we are seeing have to do with Lebron James. Lebron James is the opiate of the masses, keeping people interested for the last two years the team is in New Jersey. This is about cutting expenses in a corporation that is losing an incredible amount of money, considering what its real value is. Lebron isn't coming to a team that sucks.

As an Ohio writer noted the other day: "Logic makes it highly unlikely he'd exit his hometown team, a franchise that made the NBA Finals in 2007, to resurrect a squad that must wreck its roster to ink him."</div>

You may be right about the motivations for the moves, but I unhesitatingly believe next year's team will be better than last year's (barring significant injuries to Harris or VC, knock wood) and certainly much more pleasurable to watch. I wouldn't have been as confident saying that before summer league, but Lopez's shooting touch around the basket and out to 20 feet is a revelation. No matter what other problems he has as a rookie, he will instantly have a highly valuable skill that no other big has had in the entire time I've watched NJ (since VC trade). To go with that, the Nets have 2 young, mobile PFs that can space the floor and shoot out to three or put it down for the occasional drive; one of the league's best hustle and chemistry guys; servicable depth at the SF position; a highly competitive, multi-faceted rookie SG with big-time collegiate success and a chip on his shoulder a mild wide to keep him motivated; and a lightning fast point guard with decent vision and touch who is widely considered among the best defensive PGs in the league. The Nets had NONE of those things going into last year. Combine that with the excision of the Kidd cancer and the infusion of youthful enthusiasm, and you get a team that will have chemistry, coshesion, and consistency of effort that will far outpace what we had most of last year.

I don't know whether it will translate into a playoff berth or not as so many factors influence that, not least the apparent improvement of several teams that finished in the 6-12 range in the east last year. But the Nets of 08-09 will be much more interesting than the stale collection of vets that started last year.
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im with u... i think the nets can be competitive this year... and its not just lebron... i mean lebron would be great... but wade would be just as good
look either way... we arent contenders this year... even if we didnt trade RJ... the team desperately needed a change... i think a lot of fans and the FO saw that we needed a change... and we did so...

i am happy with all the moves... and im lookin forward to this season coming up... when 2010 comes around then we will worry bout the free agents... but i believe in rod thorn... and in kiki... rod changed this franchise and i still thank him for that
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Jul 13 2008, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It amazes me how much people think of the great player we are pursuing. He has never won a damn thing and never will. At best, he is enticing, a tease. At worse, he takes up space.

Cap Space sucks...and I do not believe for one second that the cuts and decisions we are seeing have to do with Lebron James. Lebron James is the opiate of the masses, keeping people interested for the last two years the team is in New Jersey. This is about cutting expenses in a corporation that is losing an incredible amount of money, considering what its real value is. Lebron isn't coming to a team that sucks.

As an Ohio writer noted the other day: "Logic makes it highly unlikely he'd exit his hometown team, a franchise that made the NBA Finals in 2007, to resurrect a squad that must wreck its roster to ink him."</div>

What's your suggestion for an alternative?

Keeping RJ and a proven mediocre team together?

Pursue free agents this year and continue the cycle of a poorly built team?

Forget James, for the Nets to have any chance to land a top shelf free agent they need to be rebuilt from the ground up not only on the court, but financially as well. Committing 3 million per year to an energy guy is not a bad move, however you want to cut it.
 
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