Markieff Morris?

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BonesJones said:
I like the idea of us facilitating a trade to this team and getting these prospects back. I'll give 2 players I'd love to have abs could be potential targets in a 3-Team trade involving Markeiff. Let's see if yall can guess them

Player A: 22 years old, 6'5 SG, played 2 seasons
Per 36: 15ppg, 4reb, 2ast on 40% FG and 35% 3pt shooting. High motor, great defender, with top notch 2 way potential

Player B: 22 years old, 6'6 PG, 34 career games in 1 season
Per 36: 11ppg, 8ast, 4reb on 30% FG and 19% 3pt shooting. A good defender. In 7 D-League games, he shot 35% from 3 and was a 40% 3pt shooter in college.
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Without google off the top I'm guessing player a is Terrance Ross and player b is MCW?

What's the answer?

Edit: ok so player B isn't MCW. I don't think he played in the D league.
 
Might be their version of canzano, but:
"how long can the Suns go with an unhappy player, one who plans to cause problems? Could the Suns end up suspending Markieff? Will they eventually trade him? Will Markieff finally learn to think for himself instead of having his brother do it for him?
How this will play out will be fascinating drama. A spoiled, troubled millionaire athlete, who is not even that good of a player, making demands and promising to wreck the Suns’ season before it even starts. A player who demands a phone call from management but couldn’t call the Suns himself after he was arrested for felony aggravated assault."

http://arizonasports.com/2015/08/12...n-is-going-to-get-real-ugly-for-phoenix-suns/
 
I admit I never liked the guy. Personally hoping he gets Sprewelled out of the league so someone more deserving can take his place.
 
I just don't see the point. I doubt he would be part of the future unless they think he can play the 3. Plus he would be taking away from the development of younger players. Phoenix will hold out for something of value.

If we were going to just sign a player for the purpose of obtaining assets, then I would rather go the Tristan Thompson route and offer him the max in order to steal him from Cleveland. Then trade him next year. But to be honest I would not even do that. (It's still a better option though iMO)
 
dviss1 said:
Without google off the top I'm guessing player a is Terrance Ross and player b is MCW?

What's the answer?

Edit: ok so player B isn't MCW. I don't think he played in the D league.
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If the Blazers ever brought in MCW it would really send the wrong message to Lillard. It's a great way to ruin the chemistry though.
 
BigGameDamian said:
If the Blazers ever brought in MCW it would really send the wrong message to Lillard. It's a great way to ruin the chemistry though.
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Would it? I'm not a big fan of MCW, but wouldn't a tall PG slot in nicely with Lillard, who could then focus more on scoring.
 
Reep said:
Would it? I'm not a big fan of MCW, but wouldn't a tall PG slot in nicely with Lillard, who could then focus more on scoring.
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I think he would be OK with that as long as the tall PG was coming off the bench. Of course that tall PG also needs to be able to guard SG's or there is very little benefit of playing him with Dame. If he can't, then we might as well have CJ on the court with Dame.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I think he would be OK with that as long as the tall PG was coming off the bench. Of course that tall PG also needs to be able to guard SG's or there is very little benefit of playing him with Dame. If he can't, then we might as well have CJ on the court with Dame.
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I think Aminu will guard the tough assignments in the backcourt just like Batum used to. Aminu can guard 5 positions..Harkless can help out as well as Crabbe. Our point guards are not going to be guarding Chris Paul..behind Dame we have Spud Webb and Mugsy Bogues
 
BlazerWookee said:
No, it isn't. He's nowhere near good enough to be such a big a pain in the ass.
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He's not? I think he is. The guy is an all around solid player. Above average defender, can shoot from anywhere. .300+ 3PT is good for a big dude. Plus he didn't get many touches in PHX. The only visible weakness I see in his game is rebounding. Like I said, if we don't have to give up much, I say go for him.
 
riverman said:
you seem to keep wanting to trade away all these assets we've already acquired and for low character guys and get rid of all our draft picks...one step forward, two steps backward to become what exactly? Who exactly are these role players that are suddenly going to be signed before November that fill out the roster? Might try and focus on the actual roster we have for a change and start some hype for their success...just sayin'
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Why don't you read? I suggested a 2nd rounder or two for him. "Trade away all these assets"? Cmon.
 
tester551 said:
I would take either Pope or Dinwiddie. I really liked Dinwiddie coming out of school, but he sort of disappointed in his rookie year.
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I don't know if you realized that's the 2 guys it was or got it right on accident.
Id love to work something where the Pistons get Markeiff (reunite the brothers) and Henderson, we get KCP and Dinwiddie and Pheonix Gets picks, cap space, and filler from us. Caldwell-Pope and Aminu would provide lockdown defense at the wings, and KCP is a better shooter than Henderson. If Dinwiddie improves his 3pt efficiency he could be the prefect guy to pair with McCollum since he's 6'6, a good defender, and can gaurd bother positions.

Id give Pheonix a 1st rounder and Detroit Henderson for them. KCPs a potential Wesley Matthews type player down the road, and I could see him being better. It'd make it easier to trade for an allstar because we could trade KCP or CJ and keep the other as the future starting 2 gaurd. Or you can stay on the potential track which would be even brighter than it is now.
 
BonesJones said:
I don't know if you realized that's the 2 guys it was or got it right on accident.
Id love to work something where the Pistons get Markeiff (reunite the brothers) and Henderson, we get KCP and Dinwiddie and Pheonix Gets picks, cap space, and filler from us. Caldwell-Pope and Aminu would provide lockdown defense at the wings, and KCP is a better shooter than Henderson. If Dinwiddie improves his 3pt efficiency he could be the prefect guy to pair with McCollum since he's 6'6, a good defender, and can gaurd bother positions.

Id give Pheonix a 1st rounder and Detroit Henderson for them. KCPs a potential Wesley Matthews type player down the road, and I could see him being better. It'd make it easier to trade for an allstar because we could trade KCP or CJ and keep the other as the future starting 2 gaurd. Or you can stay on the potential track which would be even brighter than it is now.
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Detroit already is on the tax at $80 million in salary, your proposed trade would add an additional $10 million in salary. they are very high on KCP and already have Ilyasova for the stretch 4 so I doubt they would consider your proposal. Hendo is also a free agent next year so only a 1 year rental.
 
"If we were going to just sign a player for the purpose of obtaining assets, then I would rather go the Tristan Thompson route and offer him the max in order to steal him from Cleveland. Then trade him next year. But to be honest I would not even do that. (It's still a better option though iMO)

I like Thompson a lot, but the obvious problem with the idea of offering him a max contract is that we might actually "steal him from Cleveland." And Tristan Thompson is not a max contract player. Not now, and probably not ever . . .
 
lawai'a said:
Detroit already is on the tax at $80 million in salary, your proposed trade would add an additional $10 million in salary. they are very high on KCP and already have Ilyasova for the stretch 4 so I doubt they would consider your proposal. Hendo is also a free agent next year so only a 1 year rental.
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they have 18 guys under contract. We'd take garbage players to make it work.

I'm not sure they'd accept. But with Jennings, Henderson, the Morris twins and Baynes coming off the bench, that team is making the playoffs. There's a chance they'd listen.
 
SpamKing said:
"If we were going to just sign a player for the purpose of obtaining assets, then I would rather go the Tristan Thompson route and offer him the max in order to steal him from Cleveland. Then trade him next year. But to be honest I would not even do that. (It's still a better option though iMO)

I like Thompson a lot, but the obvious problem with the idea of offering him a max contract is that we might actually "steal him from Cleveland." And Tristan Thompson is not a max contract player. Not now, and probably not ever . . .
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That's why I said I wouldn't do it either. My point is he has more value. We would be adding an asset for nothing but cap space. A player you could trade for another asset once the cap goes up. It comes down to 3 options: Not doing anything with the cap space, waiting for a better deal (that may or may not materialize), or signing a good player to use in a trade later on. Like I said I would pass on him, but compared to taking Morris in a trade,.........I would rather sign Thompson.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
That's why I said I wouldn't do it either. My point is he has more value. We would be adding an asset for nothing but cap space. A player you could trade for another asset once the cap goes up. It comes down to 3 options: Not doing anything with the cap space, waiting for a better deal (that may or may not materialize), or signing a good player to use in a trade later on. Like I said I would pass on him, but compared to taking Morris in a trade,.........I would rather sign Thompson.
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Except nobody thinks he's worth a max contract... there's a reason he hasn't signed an offer sheet, and it's because no team wants to pay him that much. So to say that a team would be willing to trade assets for an average player on a max contract is flat out wrong. Instead, we'd be stuck with no flexibility due to a gamble at trading an insanely overpaid player.

EDIT: Skipped the first sentence. Still it's not a better option than Morris because TT could screw us and with Morris theres not much downside
 
BonesJones said:
they have 18 guys under contract. We'd take garbage players to make it work.

I'm not sure they'd accept. But with Jennings, Henderson, the Morris twins and Baynes coming off the bench, that team is making the playoffs. There's a chance they'd listen.
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we would be sending $8million in cap space to phoenix and taking on $10 million in contracts from Detroit? this would seriously hamper the flexability to do a trade at the deadline for prospects and capspace. they still have to extend Drummond too. which contracts to $10million do you propose from Detroit after KCP and dinwiddie? and a future first? no from our perspective.EDIT we still have to extend leonard too
 
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lawai'a said:
we would be sending $8million in cap space to phoenix and taking on $10 million in contracts from Detroit? this would seriously hamper the flexability to do a trade at the deadline for prospects and capspace. they still have to extend Drummond too. which contracts to $10million do you propose from Detroit after KCP and dinwiddie? and a future first? no from our perspective.EDIT we still have to extend leonard too
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I think its likely we don't trade over $10M of cap space for someone at the deadline.

PHX GETS: 2019 Portland 1st Round Pick (Lotto protected), CLE Future 2nd (top 55 protected), Anthony Tolliver
DET GETS: Markeiff Morris, Gerald Henderson, Allen Crabbe
POR GETS: Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Spencer Dinwiddie, Aaron Gray, Cartier Martin, Reggie Bullock
CLE GETS: Danny Granger

We send out $7M, get back $7M. No loss of flexibility, get a great young prospect. We cut Gray, Martin, and give Bullock a chance in training camp
Pheonix gets a stretch 4 to replace Markeiff, Cap space and a 1st.
Cleveland uses the Mike Miller trade exception to get a good 3pt shooting vet in Granger.
Detroit sends out a little over $12M, gets back $15M (works), cuts roster from 18 to 14 players, and gets 2 good pieces and young talent in Crabbe to finally make the playoffs
 
magnifier661 said:
Lol I keep forgetting that we have Miller
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I think a lot of people do, and I find it interesting we haven't bought him out yet like every writer said was going to happen. There's no reason to do that unless you think you can pull off a trade to get a 2nd rounder or even a a crazy one like him and Kaman for Morris. It also seems like it would be more valuable to have him and Kaman on the team as mentors than to just cut him for nothing.
 
no thanx from Cleveland luxury tax for granger is a no
Portland sends out Henderson crabbe and a future first, we get fair value
Tolliver in no way replaces Morris at the 4, they have more than enough capspace with morris so doubt this would be perceived as a bonus for them and of little or no value
I believe Detroit values KCP as highly as you do, you want Meeks, maybe they consider,but he dings our flexibility for next season as his contract runs through 16/17 all this for a player very similar to Ilyasova without the issues. probably a no here too.
I believe Portland gets value in your proposal, but I don't understand why Detroit or Cleveland wants to have anything to do with it
EDIT I think Portland values Henderson as a veteran on this young team too too
 
santeesioux said:
I think a lot of people do, and I find it interesting we haven't bought him out yet like every writer said was going to happen. There's no reason to do that unless you think you can pull off a trade to get a 2nd rounder or even a a crazy one like him and Kaman for Morris. It also seems like it would be more valuable to have him and Kaman on the team as mentors than to just cut him for nothing.
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Yep, I think he could teach Crabbe a thing or two about shooting and getting open
 
Olshey is a play it safe guy. He likes to tread lightly with many hooks in the water. He has made his plays this summer in my opinion and is gonna wait until we can see who gels with who and that will tell him who he needs to package for a potential deadline trade, but right now there are too many unknowns with too many players currently on the roster. Why start moving pawns in the dark now? wait until the light shines and we see who thrives.
For example, we have filled out the bigs positions, but what if they don't gel except maybe Vonleh, and Plumlee? Kamaan cant give significant minutes and be effective and if you take Davis out of the picture cause he isn't fitting in for some reason, all of a sudden a once stacked biog line up is thin and we need to focus on that. Likewise can be said of the guards.
We really have no clue who is and who isn't gonna work well together, and until we do, you hold pat and see how the current moves pan out before you do much more.
 
I was always find with Henderson he can do a lot things Mattews can't.
 
lawai'a said:
no thanx from Cleveland luxury tax for granger is a no
Portland sends out Henderson crabbe and a future first, we get fair value
Tolliver in no way replaces Morris at the 4, they have more than enough capspace with morris so doubt this would be perceived as a bonus for them and of little or no value
I believe Detroit values KCP as highly as you do, you want Meeks, maybe they consider,but he dings our flexibility for next season as his contract runs through 16/17 all this for a player very similar to Ilyasova without the issues. probably a no here too.
I believe Portland gets value in your proposal, but I don't understand why Detroit or Cleveland wants to have anything to do with it
EDIT I think Portland values Henderson as a veteran on this young team too too
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Then we can take Granger and cut him.
That leaves Detroit. If Pheonix only wants cap space then trade Detroit the first. I think Detroit might try to do it to get back to the playoffs in a weak eastern conference.

Jackson / Jennings
Meeks / Henderson
Johnson / Marcus
Ilyasova / Markeiff
Drummond / Baynes

That's a playoff team
 
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