Melo to Knicks in 3 way with Minnesota

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e_blazer said:
Stern had better do something about this new prima donna-driven NBA contender-building phenomenon in the new CBA. Sounds like the next guy wanting to get in on it is Dwight Howard.
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Franchise player designation as in the NFL?
 
e_blazer said:
Actually, I think the Knicks could likely dump enough salary to be able to sign Melo and then force a sign-and-trade with the Nuggets in the same fashion that Miami used against the Heat. The Knicks are only committed to around $41 million next season and probably could dump a couple of guys to teams with trade exceptions or ending contracts if needed.

Stern had better do something about this new prima donna-driven NBA contender-building phenomenon in the new CBA. Sounds like the next guy wanting to get in on it is Dwight Howard.
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I think the next CBA is going to be far more restrictive and any deal Melo is able to sign with the Knicks will pale in comparison to the three year extension on the table. I think his leverage is overstated.
 
I think it is in most teams interest to not help the Knicks, and to not help Denver. Those teams need to pony up some talent in order to get some help, it shouldn't be handed to them. If Carmello wants to go to the Knicks then he can go there and get paid less, and why he is at it, he can eat up the rest of their salary cap space so they can't sign any more players. Let's face the facts. With what happened in Miami this year, the only thing preventing the Heat, and now the Knicks from building a super team, is the cap and the restrictions it will impose on their ability to add talent to the team outside of their "stars".
 
RR7 said:
Ok, so we have the first round pick, we arguably have a comparable player to Brewer to add in. Now, where do we get the 11 million in cap space to absorb Curry, and save Denver on the LT? Wanting a deal to get done is one thing. Wanting our GM to create some REAL imaginary cap space to just absorb contracts in a trade is another. And then on top of all that, you want to include Roy in the deal. It's completely laughable, especially with your constant griping about Cho not getting something done.
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http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=462u8bb

This trade works. We would send both of our picks to Denver, as well. Then deal Miller and Joel to somoene for a pick or young players, and build around LA, Gallinari, Batum, Matthews and Randolph if he pans out. If Oden comes back then it's a bonus, but if not, that core is better than what we have because of Gallinari.
 
Awesome. Go email it to Cho. And whine when he doesn't do it that he is inept because your TradeChecker trade didn't get done.
 
Also, the assumption would be we're dumping ROy because he'll never be a good-great player again. For the bonus of acquiring him, instead of just Carmelo, NY also loses Mozgov and Gallinari. Why, exactly? But hey, no need to think it through. It's possible on trade checker. We fit ourselves in, so Cho is an idiot if he doesn't do it.
 
RR7 said:
Also, the assumption would be we're dumping ROy because he'll never be a good-great player again. For the bonus of acquiring him, instead of just Carmelo, NY also loses Mozgov and Gallinari. Why, exactly? But hey, no need to think it through. It's possible on trade checker. We fit ourselves in, so Cho is an idiot if he doesn't do it.
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Why? because it costs them one less draft pick, and Roy would be an amazing 3rd option. Roy to NY makes more sense than Gallinari and a scrub center
 
Mediocre Man said:
Roy would be an amazing 3rd option.
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Then why don't we keep him, and make him one? LA is developing into a first option. All we need is a #2 like Iguodala, or Devin Harris, or you know... Greg Oden.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Knicks get Melo for just Eddy Curry, Wilson Chandler, and Anthony Ranolph?

Is that a joke? This would be on par with the Pau deal in how unbalanced it is in favor of the big market team.
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I think it's more comparable to a sign-and-trade in the off-season, when the guy getting traded was just going to sign with that team anyway. Like when Orlando traded Ben Wallace to Detroit for Grant Hill, back when Grant Hill was expected to be a superstar and Wallace was seen as scraps. Hill was planning to sign with Orlando anyway, so Detroit basically had to take what Orlando would give.

Similar deal here, except they're doing it before the season ends. Anthony has given no sign he's considering anywhere but the Knicks...so it's essentially a sign-and-trade, not a value-for-value trade.

I do agree with Vinyard, though, that the Nuggets blew it not taking the Nets' deal...it was much, much, much better.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Then why don't we keep him, and make him one? LA is developing into a first option. All we need is a #2 like Iguodala, or Devin Harris, or you know... Greg Oden.
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I honestly think if Roy stays then he will "assume" the role of 1st option
 
Mediocre Man said:
I honestly think if Roy stays then he will "assume" the role of 1st option
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Well that is better than what the fans will be doing. Which is assuming the position, and taking it in the keister.
 
Re: OT: Melo to Knicks in 3 way with Minnesota

KingSpeed said:
I can't believe there's not a thread about this here. It broke last night and appears to be near official. I think it works great for all three teams. Knicks get Melo. Nuggets get Chandler, Brewer, and Minnesota's pick (possibly the top pick in the draft). Minnesota gets Anthony Randolph and Curry's expiring contract.

This is going to shake the league. This makes the Knicks a contender out East. But Denver will still make the playoffs with Chandler, I think. This is a big big deal. I'd love to see a Knicks- Heat playoff series. Go New York, Go New York, Go!

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...te-whats-next-for-the-knicks-answer-a-big-man
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Bleacher Report sucks, King. Not a reliable site. Just a place where fan boys can play journalist.
 
Mediocre Man said:
I honestly think if Roy stays then he will "assume" the role of 1st option
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Then Portland will assume the role of league doormat on their way to losing 75% of their remaining games.

I am really hoping Roy comes back and realizes he needs to change the way he plays to accomodate the new reality of his health.
If not Portland is going to suck for a very long time.
 
Minstrel said:
I think it's more comparable to a sign-and-trade in the off-season, when the guy getting traded was just going to sign with that team anyway. Like when Orlando traded Ben Wallace to Detroit for Grant Hill, back when Grant Hill was expected to be a superstar and Wallace was seen as scraps. Hill was planning to sign with Orlando anyway, so Detroit basically had to take what Orlando would give.

Similar deal here, except they're doing it before the season ends. Anthony has given no sign he's considering anywhere but the Knicks...so it's essentially a sign-and-trade, not a value-for-value trade.

I do agree with Vinyard, though, that the Nuggets blew it not taking the Nets' deal...it was much, much, much better.
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As I recall, it wasn't the Thuggets who passed on that deal; it was Melo who wouldn't meet with L'il Putin.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Knicks get Melo for just Eddy Curry, Wilson Chandler, and Anthony Ranolph?

Is that a joke? This would be on par with the Pau deal in how unbalanced it is in favor of the big market team.
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Speak of the devil: http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/news/story?id=6101304

The Denver Nuggets have had preliminary discussions with the Los Angeles Lakers on a Carmelo Anthony trade, league sources told ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard on Tuesday.

The Lakers' package would be built around center Andrew Bynum. Denver has no interest in Ron Artest and isn't particularly interested in Lamar Odom either, sources said. A straight-up deal of Bynum for Anthony works financially, but there could be other players involved since Denver would look to shed more salary if possible.
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Could just be Denver trying to get some leverage, but you never know with LA.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Knicks get Melo for just Eddy Curry, Wilson Chandler, and Anthony Ranolph?

Is that a joke?
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My feelings exactly. If New York pulls this off, it's an unbelievable steal. I'm really sick and tired of the "glamour" teams getting away with this kind of crap.
 
Franchise player in his prime for an often-injured 4th best player on the 2 time defending champs? Fuck the NBA if this goes down.
 
Stick a fork in it. It would have happened by now.
 
hasoos said:
Wel if that's the case we would be screwed anyhow, aren't we over the cap?
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What does the cap have to do with anything? Financial penalties? LOL.

PA is wealthier than all but a handful of Earthlings.

He has more money than 2/3 of the world's inhabitants COMBINED.

He's just a cheap SOB with nobody but himself to blame for his team's mediocre performance.

If George Steinbrenner had owned this team we'd have 7 or 8 Championships before now.
 
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