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This is the thread to end all after loss threads. Should we make this a membership only thread?

  • Yes

    Votes: 30 52.6%

  • No

    Votes: 27 47.4%
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kjironman1 said:
I mean what bigger LOSS could we all be talking about right now than losing Lillard?
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I can think of a hundred off the top of my head, no great loss as it was time to rebuild and trade Dame, and we have a nice start already with Scoot and Shae
 
Blazinaway said:
I can think of a hundred off the top of my head, no great loss as it was time to rebuild and trade Dame, and we have a nice start already with Scoot and Shae
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Guess that is one way to look at it. We all knew this was going to happen eventually.
Funny almost eerily the same as losing Drexler. Clyde didn't want to be part of the rebuild and wanted to go to the Rockets.
I just wonder if Dame goes to Miami and wins a ring does he go into the Hall Of Fame wearing a Heat jersey?
 
Pretty tough being a Blazer fan right now.

I'm getting pretty tired of this ownership.
I really don't like Joe Cronin.
I absolutely don't like Chauncey Billups as the head coach.
The roster sucks.

Really tired of being a lottery team already but obviously there is little or no hope of being anything else for the next 2-3 years at least. There isn't even good prospects in the next couple drafts to get excited about.

Not gonna lie. I just don't see much to follow when it comes to the Blazers.

Kjironman is NOT a fan at all right now.
 
kjironman1 said:
Pretty tough being a Blazer fan right now.

I'm getting pretty tired of this ownership.
I really don't like Joe Cronin.
I absolutely don't like Chauncey Billups as the head coach.
The roster sucks.

Really tired of being a lottery team already but obviously there is little or no hope of being anything else for the next 2-3 years at least. There isn't even good prospects in the next couple drafts to get excited about.

Not gonna lie. I just don't see much to follow when it comes to the Blazers.

Kjironman is NOT a fan at all right now.
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I hear you man. What's funny, or not!, is some in here all of a sudden are like, "let's add this forward, and then lets add that center". When if Cronin had done that to begin with, i doubt Dame wants to leave, even though that's debatable too( I think he'd stay if Joe would just get the lead out, and maybe he will :blessed:).

A small backcourt can work, if it's dynamic. Dame is great, and Scoot has the making of special. Mitchell & Garland prove that, but they have the defense behind them with size. That's what this team needs.
I also hate this "that ship has sailed" in regards to Dame. You out there don't know didley whether he's traded or ends up staying.
None of us really know. So those who have an anti-Dame agenda can hope, pray , or whatever you do.

I get it KJ. Dame was sold a bad bill of goods that if he shut it done, with the higher lottery pick , the Blazers would bring in the pieces to build around him. Not bring in a guy at his own position. I'm still holding out hope, cause i don't think a depleted Heat roster , after a trade , is that much better for Dame.
And because the compensation that Cronin does want would deplete any team involved in a trade to the point where they aren't as strong. But Cronin needs to add key pieces to this team, and show Dame that staying is best. maybe he is.

I hope he is, and i owe Joe a big apology when it's over. But this has been my worst offseason. No fun at all. Summer league sucked. Free Agency Sucked. Health went down hill because of it. Total Blazer shitshow.
 
kjironman1 said:
Pretty tough being a Blazer fan right now.

I'm getting pretty tired of this ownership.
I really don't like Joe Cronin.
I absolutely don't like Chauncey Billups as the head coach.
The roster sucks.

Really tired of being a lottery team already but obviously there is little or no hope of being anything else for the next 2-3 years at least. There isn't even good prospects in the next couple drafts to get excited about.

Not gonna lie. I just don't see much to follow when it comes to the Blazers.

Kjironman is NOT a fan at all right now.
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Damn man….. I’m the complete opposite. This is the first time I have been excited about the team in years. The first time I have felt good about the future in a long time.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Damn man….. I’m the complete opposite. This is the first time I have been excited about the team in years. The first time I have felt good about the future in a long time.
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Exactly the same here. Cancelled my league pass last season for 1st time in 10 years but was awake for 1st summer league game. I will subscribe again to the league pass thanks to our future.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Damn man….. I’m the complete opposite. This is the first time I have been excited about the team in years. The first time I have felt good about the future in a long time.
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I guess if you like losing. This team will struggle to win 30 games without Dame. 30 games gets them an 8-10 pick.
Unless of course you want to lose on purpose again? Losing culture can keep going a very long time. Ask the Clippers/Kings/Warriors.
This team needs new ownership and a complete makeover in the front office/coaching staff.
 
kjironman1 said:
I guess if you like losing. This team will struggle to win 30 games without Dame. 30 games gets them an 8-10 pick.
Unless of course you want to lose on purpose again? Losing culture can keep going a very long time. Ask the Clippers/Kings/Warriors.
This team needs new ownership and a complete makeover in the front office/coaching staff.
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I would rather suck for a few years and have guys like Scoot and Shaedon to show for it, rather than ride the treadmill for 8 years with nothing to show for it.
 
kjironman1 said:
I guess if you like losing. This team will struggle to win 30 games without Dame. 30 games gets them an 8-10 pick.
Unless of course you want to lose on purpose again? Losing culture can keep going a very long time. Ask the Clippers/Kings/Warriors.
This team needs new ownership and a complete makeover in the front office/coaching staff.
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Or, just enjoy the games, watch some young talent develop and see what the current new management can put together. The idea of watching the same old same old for another few seasons has zero appeal to me.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I would rather suck for a few years and have guys like Scoot and Shaedon to show for it, rather than ride the treadmill for 8 years with nothing to show for it.
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In a few years both of those guys might be gone as well.
 
bemac said:
Or, just enjoy the games, watch some young talent develop and see what the current new management can put together. The idea of watching the same old same old for another few seasons has zero appeal to me.
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“Current New Management”?
Hmmm. Where ya been?
Bert Kolde and Joe Cronin are not new at all. On top of that Jody is clueless.
This team needs to be sold ASAP.
 
kjironman1 said:
I guess if you like losing. This team will struggle to win 30 games without Dame. 30 games gets them an 8-10 pick.
Unless of course you want to lose on purpose again? Losing culture can keep going a very long time. Ask the Clippers/Kings/Warriors.
This team needs new ownership and a complete makeover in the front office/coaching staff.
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With Portlands luck, they missed out on Wemby by one digit this year, but will get the number one pick next summer in a tepid draft. But someone will emerge. Can't have another Anthony Bennet draft.
 
tykendo said:
I hear you man. What's funny, or not!, is some in here all of a sudden are like, "let's add this forward, and then lets add that center". When if Cronin had done that to begin with, i doubt Dame wants to leave, even though that's debatable too( I think he'd stay if Joe would just get the lead out, and maybe he will :blessed:).

A small backcourt can work, if it's dynamic. Dame is great, and Scoot has the making of special. Mitchell & Garland prove that, but they have the defense behind them with size. That's what this team needs.
I also hate this "that ship has sailed" in regards to Dame. You out there don't know didley whether he's traded or ends up staying.
None of us really know. So those who have an anti-Dame agenda can hope, pray , or whatever you do.

I get it KJ. Dame was sold a bad bill of goods that if he shut it done, with the higher lottery pick , the Blazers would bring in the pieces to build around him. Not bring in a guy at his own position. I'm still holding out hope, cause i don't think a depleted Heat roster , after a trade , is that much better for Dame.
And because the compensation that Cronin does want would deplete any team involved in a trade to the point where they aren't as strong. But Cronin needs to add key pieces to this team, and show Dame that staying is best. maybe he is.

I hope he is, and i owe Joe a big apology when it's over. But this has been my worst offseason. No fun at all. Summer league sucked. Free Agency Sucked. Health went down hill because of it. Total Blazer shitshow.
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I understand and appreciate your Dame fandom. But in the past few weeks he and his team have pretty much gone scorched earth on the Blazers. When Dame was on his world tour going city to city talking about Portland needs to do what Dame wants or they will have another conversation, I knew he was gone because he was publicly tanking his trade market and killing any leverage the Blazers would have in trying to trade Dame. Dame owns that.

Now Dame and his team have been admonished for what? Publicly speaking about demanding a trade and then only to Miami. Dame owns that. I have been staying away from a victory lap crowing that Dame was killing his value and killing Portlands leverage. I was saying this before Dame asked out. Posters on here, including you were calling me out saying I can't prove this public talk is/would/will affect anything. I guess we now know that unfortunately I was correct. I apologize if this seems like a victory lap, it is not. And I am not admonishing you in any way. You are a fervent fan. But my God, this has been a scorched earth tour and I truly believe it is a situation where you can not put the toothpaste back in the tube.

As to compensation that Cronin wants, he is the GM of the Portland Trailblazers, not of the Damian Lillards. His sole focus should be maximizing the value of his assets, period. Another team will not make a trade they are not comfortable. Cronin will not have a gun to anyones head. Nor will Portland accept a deal they are not comfortable with. No one will have a gun to Cronin's head neither. Cronin will be committing professional malpractice if he gives one iota to the shape he leaves another team in at the end of a Dame trade or any other. I doubt Danny Ainge feels guilty for fleecing Minny. He did his job superbly and has probably earned an extension with a sizable raise. Cheers
 
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kjironman1 said:
In a few years both of those guys might be gone as well.
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Jesus christ, don't say that kind of stuff bro.

Instead try something like, "With Sharpe a perennial All-Star, and Scoot the newest "it" Point Guard, Portland has the pick of the litter of bigs and wings clamoring to play in Portland!". **checks thread title** oh wait, never mind, carry on.
 
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People on this site hate hearing they are wrong. Never changes.
All the Tank for Wemby stuff is a different narrative now.
 
Natebishop3 said:
You think they're going to demand a trade in the next 7-8 years?

I think a lot of players are going to want to hit that 8 year mark so they can get the super max.
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No team is giving multiple players a super max. Certainly not a team owned by Jody Allen.
 
kjironman1 said:
No team is giving multiple players a super max. Certainly not a team owned by Jody Allen.
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We are talking 8 years away. Hopefully Jody won't even be here at that point. But if they're good enough to warrant a supermax, they're going to want to stick around to try to get it.
 
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