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The more I think about the more sense millsap makes for our team. Millsap compliments Plumlee well in theory, even tho neither is a rim protector. i also think we can put together a more attractive package than Toronto, plus I'm pretty sure our draft pick will be higher.
 
Scalma said:


The more I think about the more sense millsap makes for our team. Millsap compliments Plumlee well in theory, even tho neither is a rim protector. i also think we can put together a more attractive package than Toronto, plus I'm pretty sure our draft pick will be higher.
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I wanted Millsap back in July. I've been saying it forever, but this team needs to add some 2-way players. We have way to many one-trick-ponies on this roster. You can get away with a few specialists, but you actually need a couple players that are significantly better than average on both sides of the ball if you ever want to go far in the playoffs.

BNM
 
Scalma said:
Boring
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Smart on them to not offer more because little to no chance he would resign with them. But of course that means the Pelicans shouldn't even submit an offer.

I wouldn't offer much if I ran the Trail Blazer either. Meyers and CLE's 1st (plus Pat if needed for salary match) is most I would go for the same worry. I think he would ultimately consider us but he also is probably getting max and he is much too old to spend that much on. We would also be playing super Lux Tax in that case and he probably only gets us 1 round deeper. Worth it? Maybe as a fan but not financially for the team.

Offers aren't going to be huge for him around the league imo.
 
Denny Crane said:
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/n...the-blazers-arent-interested-in-cousins-noel/

NBA Trade Rumors: Here's why the Blazers aren't interested in Cousins or Noel
Don't expect Portland to make a big splash and land either of those players at the deadline

On paper, either one would be a huge help to the Blazers. Noel perhaps more so on the defensive end but adding an All-Star like Cousins would be a huge upgrade in the Portland front court. So why aren't the Blazers interested?

One reason is that the Blazers believe in their core team and that they can turn things around. This is essentially what happened with Portland last season. They struggled at the start of the season but then got in a little rhythm in January and February, which ultimately helped them secure a playoff spot.

Portland invested a lot of money in the offseason to bring back their team from last season and it seems like they are going to stick with this group. That could change as we get closer to February's trade deadline but for now, the Blazers seem focused on improving from within.​
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That's some lovely "we believe in our players" smokescreen.
 
IS this going to be the start of the dominos and trades are going to start happening left and right?
 
I love Millsap and think he'd fit seamlessly with this team at PF next to Plums. He plays the passing lanes and can protect the rim on D. And his offensive skills are absolutely ideal with Dame/CJ/Plums. And even at age 31/32-- I think he can go for another 3 years easily.

That said, I don't want him for the exact same reason why I don't want Noel-- contract.

He will be a free agent this summer and due for a big raise this summer. Even if we manage to dump one or two of AC/ET/ML, we'll kill our flexibility even more , and we still will have a tough time extending both Millsap and Plums. This fear of the guy leaving is somewhat mitigated with Noel as he'll be a RFA, but still, hard to fathom extending both he and Plums for over 80 mil each in the same summer.
 
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Yep, Millsap only makes sense if we think we can compete THIS season. We seemingly can't so giving up anything serious for him would be a bad move, he won't stay beyond May anyway.
 
Sarni said:
Yep, Millsap only makes sense if we think we can compete THIS season. We seemingly can't so giving up anything serious for him would be a bad move, he won't stay beyond May anyway.
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You give him the MAX for 4 years and he certainly stays. That is not an appealing option either though.
 
Scalma said:


The more I think about the more sense millsap makes for our team. Millsap compliments Plumlee well in theory, even tho neither is a rim protector. i also think we can put together a more attractive package than Toronto, plus I'm pretty sure our draft pick will be higher.
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If we trade our pick for Millsap, Olshey should be fired on the spot.
 
I'd gladly trade Ed OR Meyers OR Aminu for Millsap. But not in combination. So basically, there's no reason for us to even submit an offer IMO.
 
blue9 said:
I'd gladly trade Ed OR Meyers OR Aminu for Millsap. But not in combination. So basically, there's no reason for us to even submit an offer IMO.
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That's fine. just not the pick(s) for a 3 month rental.
 
blue9 said:
If we trade our pick for Millsap, Olshey should be fired on the spot.
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I'd trade clevelands pick for him, even if there's a possibility he'll leave after the season. I would even offer him the max, or something close to it. Yes it's overpaying, but no one wants to come to Portland, until they actually come to Portland. Maybe he'll like playing with Dame and CJ. We'll have to overpay to keep him, but I say why not. Millsap is good enough to be worth the risk.
 
Minstrel said:
Be honest--for you, that trade is just about getting RoLo back and everyone else is filler.
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You think anyone would dispute that?

blue9 said:
I have to admit, I'd be very interested in our new roster. I've always had a bit of a soft spot for Rondo. I haven't watched him since he left BOS, so I'm willing to believe that he's not the player he once was. But part of me holds out hope that, with the right roster, he could regain his former standing as one of the league's best PGs. He probably never will, but...
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I wouldn't even want Rondo to return to prior form. I'd want him as CJ's backup.

CJ/Butler/Aminu/Plumlee/Rolo
Rondo/Crabbe/Harkless/Davis/Leonard

That's a contender. This year.

No chance either side proposes that, and I don't think Chicago would be interested if Portland did, but I thought the idea seemed intriguing.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
You think anyone would dispute that?


I wouldn't even want Rondo to return to prior form. I'd want him as CJ's backup.

CJ/Butler/Aminu/Plumlee/Rolo
Rondo/Crabbe/Harkless/Davis/Leonard

That's a contender. This year.

No chance either side proposes that, and I don't think Chicago would be interested if Portland did, but I thought the idea seemed intriguing.
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Sorry, but the way you built our line-up, I have to say "yuck"! Aminu/Plumlee/Rolo? Barf! The only way I want to keep Aminu on the roster is as a bench player. If you want Rondo as the back-up, then I could see maybe doing CJ/Butler/Harkless/Plumlee/Rolo. I do like the idea of Plumlee as our PF, but not sure Rolo is the best C to pair him with. But, assuming Rondo can be 80% of the player he was in BOS, I'd rather go:

Rondo/CJ/Butler/Plumlee/Rolo

Still have the Plumlee/Rolo issue, but we have great defense with Rondo/Butler/Rolo, great offense with CJ/Butler, great passing with Rondo/Plumlee.

Regardless of how you mix/match the players I don't agree that they're a contender. At best they're a dark horse. But yeah, it's all just theoretical musings, as there's no way this would ever go down.
 
Denny Crane said:
The Bulls might go for that.
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You know CHI much better than I do, but I think you can take the "might" out of that. As I said in another thread, I followed the CHI/Butler saga last season, but not much at all this season. But based on what I read last year, and what little I've read this year, they'd love to get rid of both Butler (for the right price) and Rondo.
 
blue9 said:
You know CHI much better than I do, but I think you can take the "might" out of that. As I said in another thread, I followed the CHI/Butler saga last season, but not much at all this season. But based on what I read last year, and what little I've read this year, they'd love to get rid of both Butler (for the right price) and Rondo.
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The Bulls love their defense. Their current coach doesn't have an offensive scheme that favors a PG like Dame.

I do think the proposed trade would get their attention.

The Bulls' rarely make midseason trades.

http://www.blogabull.com/2015/8/21/...e-history-transactions-gar-forman-john-paxson

The Bulls History of Making Trades is Pathetic, and that's a Problem

Since Gar Forman and John Paxson took over front office duties from Jerry Krause in 2003, the management duo has repeatedly failed to use the trade market to improve the roster.
 
blue9 said:
Sorry, but the way you built our line-up, I have to say "yuck"! Aminu/Plumlee/Rolo? Barf! The only way I want to keep Aminu on the roster is as a bench player. If you want Rondo as the back-up, then I could see maybe doing CJ/Butler/Harkless/Plumlee/Rolo. I do like the idea of Plumlee as our PF, but not sure Rolo is the best C to pair him with. But, assuming Rondo can be 80% of the player he was in BOS, I'd rather go:

Rondo/CJ/Butler/Plumlee/Rolo

Still have the Plumlee/Rolo issue, but we have great defense with Rondo/Butler/Rolo, great offense with CJ/Butler, great passing with Rondo/Plumlee.

Regardless of how you mix/match the players I don't agree that they're a contender. At best they're a dark horse. But yeah, it's all just theoretical musings, as there's no way this would ever go down.
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Not sure about your issue with a Plumlee/Rolo pairing. Rolo has a solid mid-range jumper, and Plumlee could continue his role as the high-post distributing center cutting to the hoop for lobs. I think they complement each other quite well.

I wouldn't quibble over Aminu/Harkless, except to say that Aminu is the superior defender, so I'd generally prefer to start games with him on the floor. Either way would work for me though.

In about 9 days, the same deal proposed above could be done with Crabbe instead of Turner, and I'd probably prefer that, simply because I think Turner can do more things overall than AC can.
 
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