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Aminu is a much better PF than Plumlee. I hope there is no such plan as Plumlee PF and to be honest I don't think there is any plan with Plumlee being a Blazer next year with the contract he'll demand.

Noel and Nurkic are both Cs with Nurkic being much stronger though. The 76ers experiment with Noel PF never worked very well, there is no floor spacing as he moves like a C.
 
Maybe PLums has simply been a stop gap all along(though we are nearing the end of the road) to Allow NO the time he needs to gather assets and shop for the true big man to put with Dame/CJ?
Plums has played well, so I think it would be a big mistake to just let him play out and walk considering his increased value. If we could work some sort of sign and trade with another team, then his value is even higher because he is then commited to that team, so we could demand more in that trade.
Could we do a sign and trade along with Davis/Laymen for Nurkic? Is that even too much?
Then we use Crabbe and picks to go after Noel?

Dame/Napier
CJ/Connaughton
Harkless/Turner
Aminu/Vonleh
Nurkic/Noel

Would need some tweaks, but we get rid of Crabbe's large contract to help use to tweak. Crabbe and picks also means I don't think we would need to use both, so if we include CLE's and another of ours down the road, It might work? They will probably want ours, so we still have the CLE pick to use in other small moves to fill in the gaps.
Maybe Leonard/CLE pick/Vonleh for Ibaka?

Then we go with this?

Dame/Napier
CJ/Layman
Harkless/Turner
Ibaka/Aminu
Nurkic/Noel

Now that seems pretty solid first and second unit with many interchangeables.
 
Why are we trying to get rid of Plumlee again? He keeps improving, even his rim protection has taken a jump lately. It's not his fault he's our only big man.
 
selloutking said:
the other interesting thing you are forgetting, is bosh's contract will no longer be on the books either due to his blood clot issues. so if they make a trade that off loads a large contract or two they have an immense amount of cash to spend.
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I forgot that one as well. It makes no sense for them to not clean house. They could get tons on draft irks and cheap Yong layers for Dragic and Whiteside, and meanwhile clear $60M in cap space for next year (including Bosh).
 
GDiama said:
Aminu is a much better PF than Plumlee. I hope there is no such plan as Plumlee PF and to be honest I don't think there is any plan with Plumlee being a Blazer next year with the contract he'll demand.
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We need two types of PF's IMO. Aminu is great against more active 4's and Plumlee is better against bigger PF's. We have some big PF's in our division (Favors, Towns) that Aminu does not match well against. Plus sometimes OKC goes twin towers......
 
Pinwheel1 said:
We need two types of PF's IMO. Aminu is great against more active 4's and Plumlee is better against bigger PF's. We have some big PF's in our division (Favors, Towns) that Aminu does not match well against. Plus sometimes OKC goes twin towers......
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I guess we'll keep Davis or Vonleh for this kind of matchups. Of course Vonleh needs to improve.

Scalma said:
Why are we trying to get rid of Plumlee again? He keeps improving, even his rim protection has taken a jump lately. It's not his fault he's our only big man.
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Yes and Crabbe kept improving and his efficiency took a jump and it was not his fault that he was the only one that can hit a 3 other than Cj and Dame and look where we are now. I wish we could keep them all, but that's the NBA. You cannot keep everyone. Plumlee is not idiot, he will demand around 15M and i think he can easily find something like 50/4. We cannot even give that with all the trash we have gathered. Unless you believe we don't need another C and we are fine as we are.
Plumlee is a real asset, not like Leonard....He has trade value and we need to use it.
 
Scalma said:
Why are we trying to get rid of Plumlee again? He keeps improving, even his rim protection has taken a jump lately. It's not his fault he's our only big man.
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Because we need more of a rim protector and he could probably fetch us 2 future firsts from a team like Toronto.

That gives us assets we need to trade for a guy like Whiteside. If we trade Crabbe to Phili, they would probably give us a future 1st back. Suddenly we have four future 1sts other than are own and could give a team those and pure capspace by writing that trade into Crabbe going to the 76ers.
 
Orion Bailey said:
Maybe PLums has simply been a stop gap all along(though we are nearing the end of the road) to Allow NO the time he needs to gather assets and shop for the true big man to put with Dame/CJ?
Plums has played well, so I think it would be a big mistake to just let him play out and walk considering his increased value. If we could work some sort of sign and trade with another team, then his value is even higher because he is then commited to that team, so we could demand more in that trade.
Could we do a sign and trade along with Davis/Laymen for Nurkic? Is that even too much?
Then we use Crabbe and picks to go after Noel?

Dame/Napier
CJ/Connaughton
Harkless/Turner
Aminu/Vonleh
Nurkic/Noel

Would need some tweaks, but we get rid of Crabbe's large contract to help use to tweak. Crabbe and picks also means I don't think we would need to use both, so if we include CLE's and another of ours down the road, It might work? They will probably want ours, so we still have the CLE pick to use in other small moves to fill in the gaps.
Maybe Leonard/CLE pick/Vonleh for Ibaka?

Then we go with this?

Dame/Napier
CJ/Layman
Harkless/Turner
Ibaka/Aminu
Nurkic/Noel

Now that seems pretty solid first and second unit with many interchangeables.
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Scalma said:
Why are we trying to get rid of Plumlee again? He keeps improving, even his rim protection has taken a jump lately. It's not his fault he's our only big man.
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I had already answered your question in my post I quoted above. Along with what others have mentioned about size and what not, there is also the bolded section of my earlier post.
We cant afford him and his value is higher than ever right now. Now is the time to move him.
 
kind of a neat list to help you think about trades


Teams with 15 fully guaranteed contracts:
  • Atlanta Hawks
  • Boston Celtics
  • Detroit Pistons
  • Golden State Warriors
  • Houston Rockets
  • Indiana Pacers
  • Los Angeles Clippers
  • Los Angeles Lakers
  • Memphis Grizzlies
  • Miami Heat
  • Milwaukee Bucks
  • New Orleans Pelicans
  • New York Knicks
  • Oklahoma City Thunder
  • Portland Trail Blazers
  • Sacramento Kings
  • Toronto Raptors
  • Utah Jazz
  • Washington Wizards
Teams with full 15-man rosters featuring at least one player on a 10-day contract:
(Numbers in parentheses indicate full-season contracts + 10-day contracts.)
  • Brooklyn Nets (14 + 1)
  • Denver Nuggets (14 + 1)
  • Philadelphia 76ers (14 + 1)
Teams with open roster spots:
(Number in parentheses indicates roster count.)
  • Charlotte Hornets (14)
  • Chicago Bulls (14)
  • Cleveland Cavaliers (14)
  • Dallas Mavericks (14)
  • Minnesota Timberwolves (14)
  • Orlando Magic (14)
  • Phoenix Suns (14)
  • San Antonio Spurs (14)
 
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NBA Trade Rumors: Lakers interested in Sixers center Nerlens Noel

The Lakers have inserted themselves on trade talks this season and will continue to do so. They had talks with Atlanta about Paul Millsap and expressed interest in Nerlens Noel, if the Sixers decide to go ahead with a deal for him. But the best asset the Lakers can put forth is a future draft pick, probably not until 2021 depending on how the lottery plays out this May. That’s going to limit their activity on the market, and there is a chance they could even be a seller with a veteran such as Luol Deng.
 
We finally have some good trade pieces now is the time to pounce and yes that might mean giving up a player or two that we really like. CJ, Plumlee, Crabbe, Chief, Mo or god forbid even Dame. This is your chance to make a huge game changing trade.....for who is the question. This is not a championship roster as it currently looks. Kills me to say this but really think either CJ or Dame are the piece that we need to trade, either of those to with another player or pick is a huge trade chip.

I really like CJ's game, his mid range is what separates him and Dame, so yes if had the right offer I would consider trading Dame over CJ..............time for me to duck and run
 
CJ should only be traded for a Paul George/Jimmy Butler-level player. Hassan is not that level of player. DMC is not that level of player.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
Woah, you don't think two of the best big men in the NBA are on the level of two all-star level forwards?
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Big men are less valuable these days. A wing that can score 25ppg as well as slow down the Durants, Westbrooks, and Lebrons of the league is very valuable.
 
BigGameDamian said:
https://www.google.com/amp/www.libe...l-deng-julius-randle?client=ms-android-google

NBA Trade Rumors: Lakers interested in Sixers center Nerlens Noel

The Lakers have inserted themselves on trade talks this season and will continue to do so. They had talks with Atlanta about Paul Millsap and expressed interest in Nerlens Noel, if the Sixers decide to go ahead with a deal for him. But the best asset the Lakers can put forth is a future draft pick, probably not until 2021 depending on how the lottery plays out this May. That’s going to limit their activity on the market, and there is a chance they could even be a seller with a veteran such as Luol Deng.
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Crabbe plus CLE's 2017 first is more valuable as Deng and a LAL 2021 1st.

They would likely have to part with Clarkson to get a deal done. Clarkson for Noel would be a very interesting swap.
 
Apparently whiteside isn't really on the table, they are just listening to offers kind of like a jimmy butler situation. The more probable get would be Noel. I say you do crabbe for Noel as fast as you can if philly is shopping him and that trade can be made.
 
Cippy91 said:
Apparently whiteside isn't really on the table, they are just listening to offers kind of like a jimmy butler situation. The more probable get would be Noel. I say you do crabbe for Noel as fast as you can if philly is shopping him and that trade can be made.
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We'd need a shooter to replace Crabbe.
 
blue9 said:
CJ should only be traded for a Paul George/Jimmy Butler-level player. Hassan is not that level of player. DMC is not that level of player.
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I would shed a tear, but a trade of CJ for Jimmy Butler would be too perfect for this team.
 
BonesJones said:
We need a proven NBA shooter.
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I would submit that defense is a bigger need on this team than shooting especially given that Dame/CJ would still be on the roster with a Noel acquisition. I love that Crabbe has done in that last 3 games but given his career numbers, it seems a small sample size. He is a nice shooter that does little else. Layman (while much less proven) may actually be the better all around player given time. What do you think?
 
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