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I knew they should have taken him to Devil's Point for Stripperoke
 
BlazerFanForLife said:
I have a question with anyone who wants to do some math. Won't Hedo really be getting less of his paycheck in Canada since he has to pay the higher government taxes there? I think if its 10% more or so over the life of his contract the money might look closer then it seems.
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10% of $56 million is $5.6 million. So if Portland is offering $52 million, as some media outlets have offered, Portland is offering $1.6 million more.
 
Toronto is a better city and his wife wanted to go there. End of story. Toronto is one of the best city's in the world I can understand where she is coming from
 
HurraKane212 said:
I really don't see how this effects KP's legacy. Hedo made the choice, KP can't force anyone, and he doesn't have a time machine to go back and beat THE MOTHERFUCKING SHIT out of Wallace or whomever in Memphis had the bright idea to fuck us like they did.
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I agree to an extent. But let's be honest. Ultimately, the majority of those who matter will look to what KP did with his cap room. Portland isn't a championship team today. So people will look to this to say, "How did KP improve the Blazers when he had his moment?" What you and I think doesn't matter. People will remember what Memphis did, but that means little with this FA market. The big thing people will really look at is how he used the cap room to improve the Blazers.

If Roy, LA, or Oden improve to the complete dominance level and win a championship, KP is a genius. If Portland doesn't improve upon it's performance over the next few years, it's going to come back on KP and Nate. It's the way it is. I still hear people say whatever about Adelman, and even Petrie, for the way it was in the early-90's.
 
Did Hedo just TURK-SLAP Kevin?

Kevi was already talking about additional changes after acquiring Hedo.

One would think the horse still needs to come before the cart.
Just like the Miles debacle, the only one slapped is Kevi.

:pokecrap:
 
Re: Did Hedo just TURK-SLAP Kevin?

Blazer_Mullet_Man said:
Kevi was already talking about additional changes after acquiring Hedo.

One would think the horse still needs to come before the cart.
Just like the Miles debacle, the only one slapped is Kevi.

:pokecrap:
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:shitstorm:
 
Bwahahaha


I am so glad we didn't use "The greatest trade piece in the history of mankind" so we could have this cap room.


Pathetic!!!!
 
Oh, and Hurrakane, in professional sports, you're hired to be fired. You do your job to the best of the potential, or you're fired. Many won't sweat this, but let's be honest, in the industry (in the eyes of fans, writers, whomever), this reflects ultimately on KP, right or wrong. So yeah, his legacy is likely going to be significantly impacted by how he responds to this moment.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Bwahahaha


I am so glad we didn't use "The greatest trade piece in the history of mankind" so we could have this cap room.


Pathetic!!!!
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I offer you this as further evidence. People were pissed about him not using RLEC, and now he can't seal what appeared (in public) to be a sure thing. It's not always about the facts, but public perception.
 
Originally Posted by Ironcrotch

right fit = $56 million
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No I think "right fit" means something else entirely. Turkoglu was asking for a lot more then $50 million from pretty boy KP.


Turkoglu = Captain Over

KP = Joey




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Re: Did Hedo just TURK-SLAP Kevin?

Blazer_Mullet_Man said:
Kevi was already talking about additional changes after acquiring Hedo.

One would think the horse still needs to come before the cart.
Just like the Miles debacle, the only one slapped is Kevi.

:pokecrap:
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yawwwwwwn
 
Re: Did Hedo just TURK-SLAP Kevin?

between this *edited* and odenisgod, this place is becoming impossible to visit..
 
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Hedo didn't like that Portland has a "white-town", Chinatown, Woodburn, but no Turkey-town. Latest rumor.
 
BTOWN_HUSTLA said:
It Pritch We Blindly Trust!
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Some do anyway.


He has yet to add anythng to this team in terms of a veteran. He built the team through the draft nicely, but has proved againsn, and again that he can't, or won't pull off a trade to help us.

Now this. I certainly don't blame him for losing out on a player that didn't want to be here, but I do blame him on being in this situation in the first place.
 
Let's see...

1. I am disappointed that KP did not get his first choice. In spite of my misgivings about the potential signing, I don't want the Blazers brain trust to be stymied, and I do NOT want to walk away without another addition and/or overpaying more for the addition(s) we make.
2. I am not disappointed that Hedo is not coming to Portland. As far as first choices go... Turkoglu was a stinker.
3. There are still options. Shawn Marion. Josh Childress. Marvin Williams.
4. We follow sports partly because of the uncertainty and the roller coaster ride... well, this is a roller coaster! Let's all laugh along with it and remember that we have a kickass team well into the future irrespective of what happens in the next month.

Ed O.
 
People people..geez..

Pritch didn't get Turk-slapped or whatever phrase you want to use. Hedo got told where he will be living - in Toronto - by his wife. I understand why she wants to live there too if it's more international / cosmopolitan. Probably a little easier to get flights to Turkey, who knows. It wasn't the money, or anything else, just environment.

Let's move on to the next boat.
 
Ok, here's my tinfoil hat conspiracy theory that still leaves Pritchard looking like a stud mastermind.

Pretend his objective all along was to go for Marion. He knows Toronto has an irrational infatuation with Hedo, but they aren't going to be doing anything crazy stupid unless they have to. He drives up the asking price for Hedo to ridiculous amounts, then right before signing him he calls up Marion and says, "You know, we'll pay you a little less than Toronto was offering you, but you actually get to win games and avoid Canadian taxes. Besides, you've heard all the rumbling about how much they want Hedo over you." Marion says "Hell yeah," informs Toronto he isn't going to re-up. Toronto panics and signs the big stupid contract for Hedo. Tomorrow we sign Marion.
Why does Portland go through all these contortions when they could've gone after Marion immediately without the whole Hedo thing? Marion's biggest problem is a vastly over-inflated sense of self-worth. The point was to demonstrate how highly valued Hedo was, and what an afterthought Marion was. Plus they suckered Toronto into vastly overpaying, and they got Hedo off the market.

Hmmm. That's the best I can come up with. I think I need to drink more Kool Aid before it starts to satisfy.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Some do anyway.


He has yet to add anythng to this team in terms of a veteran. He built the team through the draft nicely, but has proved againsn, and again that he can't, or won't pull off a trade to help us.

Now this. I certainly don't blame him for losing out on a player that didn't want to be here, but I do blame him on being in this situation in the first place.
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Wasn't Roy acquired in a trade?
 
mook said:
Ok, here's my tinfoil hat conspiracy theory that still leaves Pritchard looking like a stud mastermind.

Pretend his objective all along was to go for Marion. He knows Toronto has an irrational infatuation with Hedo, but they aren't going to be doing anything crazy stupid unless they have to. He drives up the asking price for Hedo to ridiculous amounts, then right before signing him he calls up Marion and says, "You know, we'll pay you a little less than Toronto was offering you, but you actually get to win games and avoid Canadian taxes. Besides, you've heard all the rumbling about how much they want Hedo over you." Marion says "Hell yeah," informs Toronto he isn't going to re-up. Toronto panics and signs the big stupid contract for Hedo. Tomorrow we sign Marion.
Why does Portland go through all these contortions when they could've gone after Marion immediately without the whole Hedo thing? Marion's biggest problem is a vastly over-inflated sense of self-worth. The point was to demonstrate how highly valued Hedo was, and what an afterthought Marion was. Plus they suckered Toronto into vastly overpaying, and they got Hedo off the market.

Hmmm. That's the best I can come up with. I think I need to drink more Kool Aid before it starts to satisfy.
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KP just got played like a fiddle. Can we finally put that ricockulous "pritch-slap" phrase to bed now?
 
mook said:
Ok, here's my tinfoil hat conspiracy theory that still leaves Pritchard looking like a stud mastermind.

Pretend his objective all along was to go for Marion. He knows Toronto has an irrational infatuation with Hedo, but they aren't going to be doing anything crazy stupid unless they have to. He drives up the asking price for Hedo to ridiculous amounts, then right before signing him he calls up Marion and says, "You know, we'll pay you a little less than Toronto was offering you, but you actually get to win games and avoid Canadian taxes. Besides, you've heard all the rumbling about how much they want Hedo over you." Marion says "Hell yeah," informs Toronto he isn't going to re-up. Toronto panics and signs the big stupid contract for Hedo. Tomorrow we sign Marion.
Why does Portland go through all these contortions when they could've gone after Marion immediately without the whole Hedo thing? Marion's biggest problem is a vastly over-inflated sense of self-worth. The point was to demonstrate how highly valued Hedo was, and what an afterthought Marion was. Plus they suckered Toronto into vastly overpaying, and they got Hedo off the market.

Hmmm. That's the best I can come up with. I think I need to drink more Kool Aid before it starts to satisfy.
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Not a bad theory, but wouldn't Toronto have to renounce Marion? Or is he a UFA? They may try and strong arm a trade with him so he can get the money he wants.
 
Ed O said:
Let's see...

1. I am disappointed that KP did not get his first choice. In spite of my misgivings about the potential signing, I don't want the Blazers brain trust to be stymied, and I do NOT want to walk away without another addition and/or overpaying more for the addition(s) we make.
2. I am not disappointed that Hedo is not coming to Portland. As far as first choices go... Turkoglu was a stinker.
3. There are still options. Shawn Marion. Josh Childress. Marvin Williams.
4. We follow sports partly because of the uncertainty and the roller coaster ride... well, this is a roller coaster! Let's all laugh along with it and remember that we have a kickass team well into the future irrespective of what happens in the next month.

Ed O.
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None of them are effective enough with the ball in their hands. They are finishers, not creators, and we would end up relying even more on Brandon Roy. I certainly do not want Roy to break down like Wade because we become so dependent on him.

God, I hate to say this, but we should really push hard for Lamar Odom. Even though he's never really played SF in his life, he, in theory, would work much like Turkoglu, even though he's a much poorer shooter.
 
Ed O said:
Let's see...

1. I am disappointed that KP did not get his first choice. In spite of my misgivings about the potential signing, I don't want the Blazers brain trust to be stymied, and I do NOT want to walk away without another addition and/or overpaying more for the addition(s) we make.
2. I am not disappointed that Hedo is not coming to Portland. As far as first choices go... Turkoglu was a stinker.
3. There are still options. Shawn Marion. Josh Childress. Marvin Williams.
4. We follow sports partly because of the uncertainty and the roller coaster ride... well, this is a roller coaster! Let's all laugh along with it and remember that we have a kickass team well into the future irrespective of what happens in the next month.

Ed O.
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Good post. I still think there is an opportunity for a lopsided trade from now until the trade deadline, and heck, if nothing comes of this offseason we still have a pretty good team that should easily make the playoffs next year.
 
yakbladder said:
People people..geez..

Pritch didn't get Turk-slapped or whatever phrase you want to use. Hedo got told where he will be living - in Toronto - by his wife. I understand why she wants to live there too if it's more international / cosmopolitan. Probably a little easier to get flights to Turkey, who knows. It wasn't the money, or anything else, just environment.

Let's move on to the next boat.
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KP got beat like a rented mule -- No ifs ands or buts. Turk and his agent played Pritch beautifully to drive up his market value to see if the team that he really wanted to play for all along would match. Give credit to Lon Babby and Hedo, KP is looking pretty foolish right about now.
 
Anyway, I was starting to convince myself that this deal didn't suck, that Hedo would really fit in, and that he was worth something close to all that money. Now that we don't have him, I don't find myself terribly upset.

Plan A always kind of sucked. Hopefully Pritchard can improvise a Plan B that I'll actually like.
 
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