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Bolden is clearly talented, but there's just something about him that makes me want to root against him. Carries himself with an air of arrogance that I really don't like.

I think he's a guy that can make it in the league, but much like his time at UCLA, is he willing to bide his time and put in the necessary work during those first couple years or does he bolt back overseas if things don't go his way? He's a first round talent, but I think there's enough questions surrounding him that keeps him out.
 
Bolden is clearly talented, but there's just something about him that makes me want to root against him. Carries himself with an air of arrogance that I really don't like.
Could say the same exact tong about Draymond Green before he was drafted.
 
If they're all available like in this chart, I'd take Justin Jackson, Kyle Kuzma and Caleb Swanigen.
 
Kind of a passing comment in his podcast, but Chris Mannix says there are teams looking to get into the first round, and "teams like Portland who has three picks is trying to get rid of one."

https://art19.com/shows/vertical-chris-mannix/episodes/ceceaa1f-a8ee-49bd-a2de-3863564cee9b

Lotsa good draft stuff in there as well. Can't transcribe today, sorry.

That matches up with what I briefly mentioned in the podcast a couple of days ago. Still trying to find out a little more and will try to get something up on Sunday or Monday.
 
Love Isaac and Collins but Monk man I just see Jamal Crawford whenever I watch him. Which I love cause J crossover is filthy and I would pick him first if this was a pickup game in the park but the NBA is a whole different deal. His elite shot making and handle will keep him in the nba for a long time but he's not an allstar IMO probably a multiple 6th man of the year player. Collins and Isaac both could be allstars at some point in their careers. I would reach for Collins before I go with Monk is I guess what I'm saying cause I dont like Markkanen that much and everyone else in that range is a g-pg.

I see Monk as a rich man's Barton or a poor man's Crawford and both options aren't that appealing to move up to 7 to get him.

Now I am not an analytics guy. All those stats and percentages might as well be another language to me. I also can't watch as many games as some of you since I have other things to do in my life. I do enjoy reading everyone's thoughts and opinions on this thread though as I am learning a lot so thank you for that.

Here are who I would draft if we weren't able to get Butler(or George.)

#15 Terrence Ferguson
#20 Jordan Bell
#26 Hartenstein or Bolden

In the second round I would go for Thornwell, Lessort or Mr. March. ( I am having a brain lock on his name)

That's who I like according to the eye test and what I was able to watch during the tournament.

Please be gentle.

edit: I also wouldn't mind taking a flyer on Karnoski in the second round if he is even in the draft(I don't follow the news closely to know for sure.)

Just Binged 'Mr March', its Tyler Dorsey.
 
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Ranking of the ten worst draft classes of all time.
It has 2013 ranked #1. I think that's dumb. Look:

3. Wizards Otto Porter SF
6. Pelicans Nerlens Noel C
8. Pistons Kentavious Caldwell-Pope SG
10. Trail Blazers C.J. McCollum PG
12. Thunder Steven Adams C
13. Mavericks Kelly Olynyk PF
15. Bucks Giannis Antetokounmpo SF
17. Hawks Dennis Schroeder PG
21. Jazz Gorgui Dieng C
22. Nets Mason Plumlee C
24. Knicks Tim Hardaway Jr. SG
26. Timberwolves Andre Roberson SF
27. Nuggets Rudy Gobert C
1. Cavaliers Allen Crabbe SG
25. Grizzlies Joffrey Lauvergne PF

Okay, so a dearth of stars. But it's way better than the ones they've got ranked 2 and 3.
 
Monk is amazing, Collins and Isaac are nice, Markhannen is amazing. I like the big guy with the afro as well (Allen?), I think he's gonna be a nice player
 
I can't imagine we keep all 3 picks, but if we do, we have to come away with a rotation caliber back up center
 
Ranking of the ten worst draft classes of all time.
It has 2013 ranked #1. I think that's dumb. Look:

3. Wizards Otto Porter SF
6. Pelicans Nerlens Noel C
8. Pistons Kentavious Caldwell-Pope SG
10. Trail Blazers C.J. McCollum PG
12. Thunder Steven Adams C
13. Mavericks Kelly Olynyk PF
15. Bucks Giannis Antetokounmpo SF
17. Hawks Dennis Schroeder PG
21. Jazz Gorgui Dieng C
22. Nets Mason Plumlee C
24. Knicks Tim Hardaway Jr. SG
26. Timberwolves Andre Roberson SF
27. Nuggets Rudy Gobert C
1. Cavaliers Allen Crabbe SG
25. Grizzlies Joffrey Lauvergne PF

Okay, so a dearth of stars. But it's way better than the ones they've got ranked 2 and 3.
I have always considered 2000 to be the worst draft
 
Yeah, I'm out on Jonah Bolden.

Watched a few more games of his today and I don't want to give that guy first round money. I also don't think he has starter potential, which makes passing on the talent pretty easy. Floats offensively and defensively and has shaky IQ/motor/mentality. Lacks physicality and I think his skill level offensively is overstated. Has some feel but is a settler with questionable shot IQ.

I think he tops out as a 4th big who can stretch and make a play, but I don't trust him to get there. And if he does, I see it happening after another trip overseas.
 
Coworkers of mine said KDs workout for us was like one they'd never seen. Didn't miss all day. Weight lifting/Strength was a red flag.
 
I asked Dame where he thought he was getting drafted and he said Sac. Said that was his best workout.
Said his agent requested to work out with Kendall Marshall and Rivers and they both declined. Wanted to prove himself against those guys.
 
Ranking of the ten worst draft classes of all time.
It has 2013 ranked #1. I think that's dumb. Look:

3. Wizards Otto Porter SF
6. Pelicans Nerlens Noel C
8. Pistons Kentavious Caldwell-Pope SG
10. Trail Blazers C.J. McCollum PG
12. Thunder Steven Adams C
13. Mavericks Kelly Olynyk PF
15. Bucks Giannis Antetokounmpo SF
17. Hawks Dennis Schroeder PG
21. Jazz Gorgui Dieng C
22. Nets Mason Plumlee C
24. Knicks Tim Hardaway Jr. SG
26. Timberwolves Andre Roberson SF
27. Nuggets Rudy Gobert C
1. Cavaliers Allen Crabbe SG
25. Grizzlies Joffrey Lauvergne PF

Okay, so a dearth of stars. But it's way better than the ones they've got ranked 2 and 3.
I see 3 stars, with Porter, Schroeder, Noel, KCP, and Hard away as good starters who could become stars. That draft was actually pretty solid.
 
Yeah, I'm out on Jonah Bolden.

Watched a few more games of his today and I don't want to give that guy first round money. I also don't think he has starter potential, which makes passing on the talent pretty easy. Floats offensively and defensively and has shaky IQ/motor/mentality. Lacks physicality and I think his skill level offensively is overstated. Has some feel but is a settler with questionable shot IQ.

I think he tops out as a 4th big who can stretch and make a play, but I don't trust him to get there. And if he does, I see it happening after another trip overseas.
If most of his problems are mental, those can be fixed. Can't teach a big to shoot like that. Can't teach a big to be as agile as him. Physicality won't be an issue for him at PF after he adds some muscle.
 
If most of his problems are mental, those can be fixed. Can't teach a big to shoot like that. Can't teach a big to be as agile as him. Physicality won't be an issue for him at PF after he adds some muscle.

Mike Beasley says hi.
 
apparently Bolden has one workout in front of NBA teams in L.A. this weekend:

"Before he can get the opportunity to hear his name called, though, Bolden will undertake his solitary workout for NBA teams in Los Angeles this weekend. Workouts can be an exhausting process, especially after a full season playing in Europe, and teams will ask about personality and other seemingly arbitrary things. In the end, it will come down to basketball."

From this article:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19640424/jonah-bolden-refuses-accept-less-nba-draft-destiny
 
I asked Dame where he thought he was getting drafted and he said Sac. Said that was his best workout.
Said his agent requested to work out with Kendall Marshall and Rivers and they both declined. Wanted to prove himself against those guys.
 


Talks about playing with/behind Steph. Crazy that GS had just one pick behind us that year. Now they're a dynasty and we're on our second rebuild with Dame.
 
Bolden is clearly talented, but there's just something about him that makes me want to root against him. Carries himself with an air of arrogance that I really don't like.

I think he's a guy that can make it in the league, but much like his time at UCLA, is he willing to bide his time and put in the necessary work during those first couple years or does he bolt back overseas if things don't go his way? He's a first round talent, but I think there's enough questions surrounding him that keeps him out.

He seemed fine in the interviews I've seen. What makes you think this?
 


Talks about playing with/behind Steph. Crazy that GS had just one pick behind us that year. Now they're a dynasty and we're on our second rebuild with Dame.


I love that fuckin' interview. Probably gives the best interviews in the league.
 
Yeah, I'm out on Jonah Bolden.

Watched a few more games of his today and I don't want to give that guy first round money. I also don't think he has starter potential, which makes passing on the talent pretty easy. Floats offensively and defensively and has shaky IQ/motor/mentality. Lacks physicality and I think his skill level offensively is overstated. Has some feel but is a settler with questionable shot IQ.

I think he tops out as a 4th big who can stretch and make a play, but I don't trust him to get there. And if he does, I see it happening after another trip overseas.
I agree with you here. I'm not sure how many people claiming to like him have actually watched any of his games.

He's better than what he showed at UCLA, but I don't think he ever makes being a quality NBA rotational player.
 

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