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PtldPlatypus said:
Who cares who "the best player Portland would get in a trade" is--we don't want "good players"; we want good assets for a rebuild. It's irrelevant to me who's better between Maxey or Herro, since I don't want either on a team seeking to rebuild around Scoot and Sharpe. Someone like Claxton would be far more valuable to us than either Herro or Maxey would, even if he's not considered a "better player".
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But but Herro is over 6’3 so he doesn’t fit our needs (and wants) all things considered.
 
RR7 said:
Yeah, I don't want to hold an asset to flip, I want it done immediately as part of a 3 or whatever team trade. Teams will low ball us on Maxey if we're sitting there with Simons, Scoot, Maxey and Sharpe at the 1 and 2.
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100%!

If Herro/Maxey have a lot of value to other teams, I'd like that to be proven as part of the trade, not simply assumed for a future date.
 
blazerkor said:
I swear whenever I read or hear Miami media about this and I guess this extends to national media who live in Miami, it's like they haven't even looked at our roster. It's like they don't even know why Dame wants out. It should be fucking embarrassing to them how absolutely one sided their takes are.
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I was shocked when ESPN gave LeBatard a national platform. He's always been a pretty bad journalist, and, worse, one with little credibility.

When Ricky Williams retired for a year from the Dolphins, LeBatard ran interference for him, playing Haynes to Williams' Damian Lillard. First, he said Williams quit because he didn't like the Dolphins' coach at the time, Dave Wannstedt. That got debunked, and LeBatard switched to another reason, which also got debunked.

After a third reason that I can't remember, Dolphins fans had been put at odds with Dolphin management, LeBatard moved the goalposts again, saying Williams left the Dolphins because he wanted to have time to spend with his children. Then it came out that Williams had spent the month since his retirement in India ... he'd quit football because he wanted to just chill and smoke weed by himself all the time.

I thought that'd be it for LeBatard, but the standards for hiring reporters don't seem that high anymore, no pun intended.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
I don't really want Capela. I don't see the point. Take a chance on a young big like Allen, Wiseman or Hayes instead.
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Which Hayes are we talking about? The one who just signed with the Lakers? Wiseman, I am skeptical about. I doubt Duren is available.

Capela has good size and is still mobile. He has proven to be effective.
I agree that Allen would be a better option though.
 
AmirIcon said:
So let's only talk about things that are going to happen, Nostradamus? Let's delete 95% of the discussion here.

Does that work for you?
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Yes. Because none of your discussions have been good or make sense. It did make me laugh though.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Which Hayes are we talking about? The one who just signed with the Lakers? Wiseman, I am skeptical about. I doubt Duren is available.

Capela has good size and is still mobile. He has proven to be effective.
I agree that Allen would be a better option though.
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I just don't see the purpose. By the time Scoot and Shaedon are ready to compete Capela is gonna be 31,32,33. We already have Grant in the vet role. I'd rather have a young guy to potentially grow with them. If Wiseman sucked, then you let him walk next year. Detroit has to let one of their bigs go, and I think its unlikely to be Duren or Stewart.

Yes, I was talking about Hayes. Didn't know he signed with the Lakers until after I said him and looked him up.
 
PCmor7 said:
Then it came out that Williams had spent the month since his retirement in India ... he'd quit football because he wanted to just chill and smoke weed by himself all the time.
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I almost asked “can anybody blame him?” for quitting football “to just chill and smoke weed by himself all the time,” but, then, it dawned on my just exactly how awful the weed in India probably is. And, well, I don’t smoke bammer…
 
SlyPokerCat said:
I just don't see the purpose. By the time Scoot and Shaedon are ready to compete Capela is gonna be 31,32,33. We already have Grant in the vet role. I'd rather have a young guy to potentially grow with them. If Wiseman sucked, then you let him walk next year. Detroit has to let one of their bigs go, and I think its unlikely to be Duren or Stewart.

Yes, I was talking about Hayes. Didn't know he signed with the Lakers until after I said him and looked him up.
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Yes, I would prefer a good young center. But if that does not happen I am ok with Capela and picks vs Herro and picks. Then draft a center that can develop behind Capela for a couple of years. But again I would rather have Duren or Allen.
 
Strenuus said:
Yes. Because none of your discussions have been good or make sense. It did make me laugh though.
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So only people with opinions you deem good should be able to have an opinion?

North Korea, much?

I'm glad the idea of Jaylen Brown getting traded for Dame made you laugh. Someone's gotta bring out that dark, lonely soul. ;-)
 
AmirIcon said:
So only people with opinions you deem good should be able to have an opinion?

North Korea, much?

I'm glad the idea of Jaylen Brown getting traded for Dame made you laugh. Someone's gotta bring out that dark, lonely soul. ;-)
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It is his M.O., he thinks he is endearing with it.
 
Trade Nurkic, Little and a #1 protected top 7 pick for Ayton.

He’s about to turn 25 and fits our rebuild perfectly. Scoot, Sharpe and Simons and Ayton fit and Grant can be traded at the deadline for a PF that can play with Ayton

Couple this with a Dame trade and we’ll be playoff-bound in two years
 
illmatic99 said:
Thats not our problem. Acquiring another PG and kicking the can down the road on trading for a better fit later on is a really dumb idea.
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Yeah Blazers should leverage the value Dame has today to get good roster fits right now. Normally I'm all for drafting BPA - or just acquiring BPA in general. But this is the opposite perfect time you hold out for fit. I guess in theory if we were being offered SGA or another All-NBA player who was younger and eager to play here maybe you could kick the can down the road.

But you don't kick it for Maxey/Herro/etc.
 
Just a thought that entered my mind just now:

Dame asked out because Joe couldn't pull a deal to bring win now talent.

But if Joe forced a trade just to make Dame happy we would have overpayed by a lot. Good for Dame for a season or two. Great for everyone if it resulted in a ring. Bad if you threw away the chance at Shaedon and Scoot for a non championship team.

Joe probably thought, "I don't think trading Shaedon and Ant and more for OG or Scoot and Ant and possibly more for Mikal is gunna result in a championship so I will make the correct decision. Hopefully Dame understands."

(Dame looked at Joe's team-well-being move as Joe being a traitor)

Now by saying Miami only, Dame essentially wants Joe to take less for him.

What Joe has done so far is for the best interest of the team.

What Dame wanted last year, this year at the draft, and now with the trade request is selfish.

End of that rant.

Unrelated:

I think Paul Pierce is exaggerating when he said Miami will not get past the first round with Dame, but I also think his points are valid.
 
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