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Herro & Simons might be too good together.
Having 2 of the most rapid fire 3 point shooters in the NBA, could adversly effect the quest for another top 5 draft choice. Tyler is coming from the Heat's winning culture. How would he respond when Cronin & Billups ask him to grab some wood? We need you off the court so the team can lose for a better draft pick.

We all saw how Lillard responded after being asked to sit games out. Dame became disgruntled, and wants to get the hell out of Portland.
 
BigGameDamian said:
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Or, hear me out, it's not?

Miami stands to lose a *lot* more than Portland does.

All Portland has to do is sit back and say "fine, you you can just sit at home. But out of respect for what you've done for the franchise, we won't fine you or keep your money from you."

And all Miami can do is sit back and say "wait, we're Miami. Let me rephrase that, we're Miami. Don't you understand? Our fans believe that being a Miami fan means they're better than others while simultaneously convinced the NBA has it out for them. Your fans are just jealous of our city, our weather, and our taxes. So why don't you do us a favor and give us Damian for are bench warmers and a few 3rd round picks, and go along with your pathetic little life? And don't you dare bring up the fact that if we don't trade for Damian that the team is going to struggle massively, that's only because Joe Cronin is trying to out smart Pat Riley! And that never will happen. "


Wait, I think I meant they can sit back and start off the year really bad because outside of Bam, Butler and *maybe* Herro, their roster isn't exactly striking fear in the hearts of any team in the EC, let alone the rest of the league. So they have far more to lose than Portland does.

Portland keeps Dame and doesn't play him? Ok, they'll suck. Portland trades Dame for the moldy bread the Heat are offering? Ok, they'll suck.

What exactly is the gain here? They'll have more "assets" to trade? Oooh boy....
 
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julius said:
Or, hear me out, it's not?

Miami stands to lose a *lot* more than Portland does.

All Portland has to do is sit back and say "fine, you you can just sit at home. But out of respect for what you've done for the franchise, we won't fine you or keep your money from you."

And all Miami can do is sit back and say "wait, we're Miami. Let me rephrase that, we're Miami. Don't you understand? Our fans believe that being a Miami fan means they're better than others while simultaneously convinced the NBA has it out for them. Your fans are just jealous of our city, our weather, and our taxes. So while don't you do us a favor and give us Damian for are bench warmers and a few 3rd round picks, and go along with your pathetic little life? And don't you dare bring up the fact that if we don't trade for Damian that the team is going to struggle massively, that's only because Joe Cronin is trying to out smart Pat Riley! And that never will happen. "


Wait, I think I meant they can sit back and start off the year really bad because outside of Bam, Butler and *maybe* Herro, their roster isn't exactly striking fear in the hearts of any team in the EC, let alone the rest of the league. So they have far more to lose than Portland does.

Portland keeps Dame and doesn't play him? Ok, they'll suck. Portland trades Dame for the moldy bread the Heat are offering? Ok, they'll suck.

What exactly is the gain here? They'll have more "assets" to trade? Oooh boy....
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Exactly, Miami has more to lose and feeling the Heat so to speak.

They also have a 34 year old superstar that needs to win now, so if they don’t do something soon Jimmy will be 35 next season.

All this talk from certain posters that we must take what Miami is offering because we have nothing else, let’s get this over with talk and etc is super cringe.

You guys don’t know how to play hard ball in the NBA and play chess to get the best value out of a assets, just want us to bend over and take whatever Miami is offering is gross.

Look at how patient the Nets were and got nice value for KD in the end. There is a risk Dame value goes down, he gets hurt and etc, but even if his value goes down, still would be better to have him than the crap from Miami
 
It is pretty amusing when you don't leave your brain at the door and stop letting yourself get swept away in the tidal wave of pro-Heat punditry and fandom.

You realize Fentress's proclamation that young current Blazer players won't re-sign with the team if they don't trade Dame for peanuts would actually be he thinks they'd care more about Dame in Miami than themselves.

You realize that those like Barry Jackson saying how much the Blazers have to lose by not trading Dame immediately is infinitesimal compared to what the Heat stand to lose by not finding a way to make a worthwhile offer ASAP. Also, it's minor compared to what Dame himself has to lose.

You realize just how much this whole loyalty thing that everyone made so hyperbolic about Dame actually was more mutually beneficial and mutually exercised between him and the team.
 
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RonBrewer said:
Heat are in panic mode sending incognito messages to Dame to start getting nasty.

LMAO

And we have dudes on here wanting to cave and take Pennie’s on the dollar. “He’s old, we need to get what we can”


F That.


Hold Firm Joe
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Same kind of people that also respond to wanting a better trade return with "He's not going to be worth what he's making in a couple of years."

Yes, Dame, these ^ are your new fans. Can't wait to have you but also are looking ahead at your departure.

Have fun!
 
There are downsides to playing in Portland, but there are benefits, too.

One of the biggest is an off-game or a down week doesn't wind up with a hoard of well-followed beat writers hitting the panic button and a rabid but not particularly thoughtful fan base losing their minds.

I won't be interested in what Lillard's up to when he's playing for someone else, but how he handles the 180 he's going to experience in a city that sees him not as the respected representative of the community and more as a vital piece needed to win a title that has 5 to 10 times the media covering his every move. If he was shaking his head on social media at some of the stuff tweeted by outsiders about him the last few years, he's going to looooooooove getting those kinds of comments ad nauseum every time he has a 5-for-20 shooting night.
 
KingSpeed said:
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Joe to Dame: Give me more teams to choose from then we'll start going somewhere. Until then, nothing changes,

Does Dame want to lose a very precious year of his prime?

Joe don't care much if the Blazers suck this year.

Jimmy is old, so as Pat Riley.

Blazers are not the ones who need to panic and rush.
 
blazerfan11 said:
Lillard is playing the best basketball of his career right now. That's a fact which needs be mentioned in conjunction with his age.
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It's more exciting to stand in the kitchen with Cronin, fill water balloons with Lillard insults, and hurl them at Damian while he's trapped behind a Moda Center couch.
 
Whyachi said:
It's more exciting to stand in the kitchen with Cronin, fill water balloons with Lillard insults, and hurl them at Damian while he's trapped behind a Moda Center couch.
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Is something an insult if it's true?

I suck at math. If you tell me I suck at math.... is that an insult?
 
Natebishop3 said:
Is something an insult if it's true?

I suck at math. If you tell me I suck at math.... is that an insult?
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Soooo.... Every negative comment about Lillard is now based on 100% facts? .... okee dokey
 
PCmor7 said:
There are downsides to playing in Portland, but there are benefits, too.

One of the biggest is an off-game or a down week doesn't wind up with a hoard of well-followed beat writers hitting the panic button and a rabid but not particularly thoughtful fan base losing their minds.

I won't be interested in what Lillard's up to when he's playing for someone else, but how he handles the 180 he's going to experience in a city that sees him not as the respected representative of the community and more as a vital piece needed to win a title that has 5 to 10 times the media covering his every move. If he was shaking his head on social media at some of the stuff tweeted by outsiders about him the last few years, he's going to looooooooove getting those kinds of comments ad nauseum every time he has a 5-for-20 shooting night.
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I know that there's some truth in the mindset that since Portland has 1 major league team there's a lot more attention given to the players (not counting the Timbers, because let's be honest, the MLS isn't on par with the NHL, NFL, MLB or NBA), but realistically, there's something different about how those in the west coast, especially those in the PNW, deal with sports.

For example, Damian has been horrible at defense for the majority of, if not all of, his career. It's not a major issue here. The franchise has been really bad about helping him with decent talent, and it's not a major issue here. The fans here have pretty much turned a blind eye to certain things (not like illegal or unethical things), which doesn't necessarily happen in other markets.

Think about it, IF he goes to Miami and they don't win a title (even with him, there's no guarantee), who is going to get blamed?

Riley? No chance.
Spolestra? No chance.
Butler? You mean the guy who has already taken then to 2 finals in 4 years? No chance.
Bam? Unlikely.

The guy who hasn't ever shown he's willing to put in the effort to be an even *decent* defender, is the new guy, is going to be paid 214 million dollars over the next 4 seasons, and is going into his 13th season?

He has no connection to that fan base, that city or that community as a whole. Most people here don't blame Damian for the 19 conference finals and for the most part, most of the fans here don't blame him for the series vs the Pelicans...

Damian needs to be careful for what he asks for (esp given his mantra used to be he was fine with whatever happens in Portland, because he wanted to finish playing in Portland). Even if he wins a title next season, it would be similar to how Drexler won a title. He wasn't there for the grind, just the rewards.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Hmmm.... I don't remember saying those words..... did I say those words?
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Whyachi going for this one.

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julius said:
I know that there's some truth in the mindset that since Portland has 1 major league team there's a lot more attention given to the players (not counting the Timbers, because let's be honest, the MLS isn't on par with the NHL, NFL, MLB or NBA), but realistically, there's something different about how those in the west coast, especially those in the PNW, deal with sports.

For example, Damian has been horrible at defense for the majority of, if not all of, his career. It's not a major issue here. The franchise has been really bad about helping him with decent talent, and it's not a major issue here. The fans here have pretty much turned a blind eye to certain things (not like illegal or unethical things), which doesn't necessarily happen in other markets.

Think about it, IF he goes to Miami and they don't win a title (even with him, there's no guarantee), who is going to get blamed?

Riley? No chance.
Spolestra? No chance.
Butler? You mean the guy who has already taken then to 2 finals in 4 years? No chance.
Bam? Unlikely.

The guy who hasn't ever shown he's willing to put in the effort to be an even *decent* defender, is the new guy, is going to be paid 214 million dollars over the next 4 seasons, and is going into his 13th season?

He has no connection to that fan base, that city or that community as a whole. Most people here don't blame Damian for the 19 conference finals and for the most part, most of the fans here don't blame him for the series vs the Pelicans...

Damian needs to be careful for what he asks for (esp given his mantra used to be he was fine with whatever happens in Portland, because he wanted to finish playing in Portland). Even if he wins a title next season, it would be similar to how Drexler won a title. He wasn't there for the grind, just the rewards.
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Butler = also the guy they're trying to build around to get a ring before he ages out.

Dame's looking at the worst of all worlds in that respect. It's not going to be "his" team, but he's going to be the one held accountable for any struggles the Heat have when he gets there.

If you're Butler, you've got to love it. Your get-out-of-jail-free card is intentionally trying to fly out of the deck into your hand. The Heat getting close right now has been enough to make Butler beloved, but if they don't win next year, the focus will all fall on Dame not putting them over the top.

And I'm not sure, seeing what I have on his social media, that Dame's quite ready for that level of criticism.
 
inconceivable said:
Joe to Dame: Give me more teams to choose from then we'll start going somewhere. Until then, nothing changes,

Does Dame want to lose a very precious year of his prime?

Joe don't care much if the Blazers suck this year.

Jimmy is old, so as Pat Riley.

Blazers are not the ones who need to panic and rush.
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The whole way this tweet was couched is comical.

Again, it is not on the Blazers to trade Dame. It is on other teams who want him to make a proper offer.

This is like me hearing a random person telling me their friend saying I'm unfriendly because I didn't say hi to them.

"Did your friend mention they never say hi to me? Why do I have to be the one to take the initiative if they're to whom it's important? Seems more a case that you should be questioning your friend why they aren't more outgoing since they think people need to be outgoing."
 
PCmor7 said:
There are downsides to playing in Portland, but there are benefits, too.

One of the biggest is an off-game or a down week doesn't wind up with a hoard of well-followed beat writers hitting the panic button and a rabid but not particularly thoughtful fan base losing their minds.

I won't be interested in what Lillard's up to when he's playing for someone else, but how he handles the 180 he's going to experience in a city that sees him not as the respected representative of the community and more as a vital piece needed to win a title that has 5 to 10 times the media covering his every move. If he was shaking his head on social media at some of the stuff tweeted by outsiders about him the last few years, he's going to looooooooove getting those kinds of comments ad nauseum every time he has a 5-for-20 shooting night.
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I don’t think Miami 5 to 10 times more media coverage than Portland.
 
KingSpeed said:
I don’t think Miami 5 to 10 times more media coverage than Portland.
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The Miami metropolitan area is roughly three times that of Portland. There are three or four competing daily newspapers that cover the Heat. ESPN at least at one point in the not-too-distant past had someone assigned specifically to the Heat. More than a quarter of their games were nationally televised during the regular season.

The Heat obviously get significantly more media coverage than Portland if both teams are playing at the same level and they'll get even a greater slice of that pie if Lillard is playing for them next year.

If you're focused on the exact number of that disparity more than the point of the post, I can't help you. All I can say is just be careful walking outside without assistance. If you're trying to undermine the post by arguing minutiae that pretty obviously was exaggeration for emphasis, well, that's just pedantic, petty and more than a little bit strange.
 
PCmor7 said:
The Miami metropolitan area is roughly three times that of Portland. There are three or four competing daily newspapers that cover the Heat. ESPN at least at one point in the not-too-distant past had someone assigned specifically to the Heat. More than a quarter of their games were nationally televised during the regular season.

The Heat obviously get significantly more media coverage than Portland if both teams are playing at the same level and they'll get even a greater slice of that pie if Lillard is playing for them next year.

If you're focused on the exact number of that disparity more than the point of the post, I can't help you. All I can say is just be careful walking outside without assistance. If you're trying to undermine the post by arguing minutiae that pretty obviously was exaggeration for emphasis, well, that's just pedantic, petty and more than a little bit strange.
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Wow. What’s your problem? I didn’t attack you or anything. I just said “I don’t think” because I really didn’t know. So you answered my question, thanks, but then you went off. Relax.
Also- the way you wrote it, it didn’t sound like an exaggeration.
 
PCmor7 said:
The Miami metropolitan area is roughly three times that of Portland. There are three or four competing daily newspapers that cover the Heat. ESPN at least at one point in the not-too-distant past had someone assigned specifically to the Heat. More than a quarter of their games were nationally televised during the regular season.

The Heat obviously get significantly more media coverage than Portland if both teams are playing at the same level and they'll get even a greater slice of that pie if Lillard is playing for them next year.

If you're focused on the exact number of that disparity more than the point of the post, I can't help you. All I can say is just be careful walking outside without assistance. If you're trying to undermine the post by arguing minutiae that pretty obviously was exaggeration for emphasis, well, that's just pedantic, petty and more than a little bit strange.
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This is either poorly worded and unnecessary or the worst threat in forum history
 
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