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SharpesTriumph said:
I think if you were running an NBA team it'd have nothing but vet minimums and rookie scale players on the roster.
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yeah, that's why I've supported Dame on the roster and trying to add players like Bridges, Siakam, Brown, Zion, DDR, Capela, and previously guys like PG13 and Butler. All those guys are on minimum deals

but I don't like seeing Portland paying 25-35M/year for guys like Ant, Herro...SG's who are defensive screen doors don't impress me, especially when they can't play wing like Ant

and, if the Blazers are trading Dame I'd like Portland to have lots of cap-space and future draft capital so they could leverage themselves into a lot of trade discussions while also landing high lottery odds by being a bottom feeder. So again, contracts for players like Ant/Herro are negatives in my view. They aren't core players and I think teams need to assemble a viable core before spending 17-20% of the cap on any role player, unless that role player is great at defense and highly versatile. That's the opposite of Ant/Herro
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Ant is not responsible for Portland's defensive issues. Defense was trash before he was a starter, was trash when he missed games, was trash when he was on the bunch. I wish it were that simple.
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He certainly doesn't help the defense.
Ant grades out as the worst defensive player on the team using DRtg and the worst playing significant minutes using DBPM.
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wizenheimer said:
people might need to slow their role a little bit

Think about it...what if Cronin/Schmitz are geniuses at player evaluation. That would mean in 2026, Sharpe, Jovic, and Rupert would all be due for new contracts. And the following summer, Scoot, Murray, Clowney, and Whitehead would all be due for their extensions

a team just can't have that many players graduating from rookie scale to 2nd contracts in two years. Now obviously, some will fail. But it's still better to have 2 or 3 in a two year period than 7
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You'd just trade the guys who weren't elite for other prospects, or picks or package them with other assets to get a veteran that fit. Young talent stockpiling is exactly what we should be doing. Sure spread them out over different years if possible, but you have Shae and Jovic and then the crop of Scoot, Clowney and Whitehead. I'm not super worried about Rupert and Murray, but if all these guys explode and need contracts, we take the cream of the crop and trade the rest with rights attached. No harm there. Also 2023 is semi-legendary in terms of depth already. Better to fish where there are plenty of lunkers than in weak drafts.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
There’s literally no combo of assets from Miami that even comes close.

This is making me illard
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It is unlikely we get the haul that people are hoping for. With that said, we also can't get raked over the coals. We need at least 3 first rounders (probably more) and we don't care if some come from the Nets (as and example). MIA is apparently resisting even putting Caleb Martin in the deal. That shit is posturing and eventually he will be in it if we want him.
 
Idog1976 said:
You'd just trade the guys who weren't elite for other prospects, or picks or package them with other assets to get a veteran that fit. Young talent stockpiling is exactly what we should be doing. Sure spread them out over different years if possible, but you have Shae and Jovic and then the crop of Scoot, Clowney and Whitehead. I'm not super worried about Rupert and Murray, but if all these guys explode and need contracts, we take the cream of the crop and trade the rest with rights attached. No harm there. Also 2023 is semi-legendary in terms of depth already. Better to fish where there are plenty of lunkers than in weak drafts.
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ok...but what I was saying if it was a choice between Clowney and Phoenix's 2027 pick, I'd be more inclined to take the pick unless I was convinced Clowney was something special. That picks spaces out the influx of assets. My view is that Brookln would not trade both Clowney and that pick, only one
 
KeepOnRollin said:
It is unlikely we get the haul that people are hoping for. With that said, we also can't get raked over the coals. We need at least 3 first rounders (probably more) and we don't care if some come from the Nets (as and example). MIA is apparently resisting even putting Caleb Martin in the deal. That shit is posturing and eventually, he will be in it if we want him.
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Keep in mind we can only take on a certain number of players without trading others. I wonder if Martin would play well for anyone else but Miami. He seems to fit their style well. Not sure I care if he is included.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Keep in mind we can only take on a certain number of players without trading others. I wonder if Martin would play well for anyone else but Miami. He seems to fit their style well. Not sure I care if he is included.
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He is worth a pick to another team I would bet.
 
It is going to be Philly but the majority of our goodies will come from a 3rd team.
 
RonBrewer said:
I believe with everything that we will not ship him to Miami. I think it's gonna be Boston. National Media is putting it out.

Philly a dark horse

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So here's the question... do we try to take back Brown or do we send him to a third team.

I still like the idea of sending Brown to Houston or OKC for a shit ton of picks and young players. That has been my desire for over a month now.
 
RonBrewer said:
I believe with everything that we will not ship him to Miami. I think it's gonna be Boston. National Media is putting it out.

Philly a dark horse

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The potential positive here is that Boston/Miami/Philly all could end up bidding against each other as Dame could be the guy who puts one of them over the top in the Eastern conference, and Bucks are there as well
 
Fuck that Simmons. Give me Jaylen to grow with Scoot and Sharpe.
 
Jaylen will be a FA next summer so we need to be careful with that, he'll be pissed that he may not get the big 5 yr max from Boston who only can offer it, probably safer to send him to a 3rd team for value
 
Natebishop3 said:
Not sure if Brown would want to be here. God it would be hilarious though....

Scoot
Sharpe
Brown
Grant
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It would be SO funny if we were better next season than we ever were with Dame.
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I'd think they would be. Attempt to upgrade center with Simons and Nurk while we are at it.
 
Blazinaway said:
Jaylen will be a FA next summer so we need to be careful with that, he'll be pissed that he may not get the big 5 yr max from Boston who only can offer it, probably safer to send him to a 3rd team for value
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Yeah but would he be pissed at us? We would still be able to pay him the most next summer. Unless some team he liked was able to get a lot of cap space.
 
I still think the best move is to send Brown to Houston or OKC.
 
PCmor7 said:
Certainly not after the way we abused Dame ....
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Abused him by sending him to a contender? Or abused him by not building around him? Because if we got Brown, he would have talent around him by year 2 as Sharpe and Scoot mature.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Abused him by sending him to a contender? Or abused him by not building around him? Because if we got Brown, he would have talent around him by year 2 as Sharpe and Scoot mature.
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Sorry for the lack of clarity. Being sarcastic. Meaning abused him because we didn't trade Scoot for OG and then didn't trade Dame to his preferred destination for their two-way players.
 
PCmor7 said:
Abused him by treating him like a god-king for 11 years but then realizing that our population was dying off because he was demanding an increasing number of human sacrifices for his glory.
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I can't help but sit over here grinning because you and I were feuding about Dame just a few weeks ago, and now look at us!

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