Minnesota wants Batum @ 11.25M a year (1 Viewer)

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Natebishop3 said:
I agree Ed, and I've made my opinion known on the matter about long threads, but I can't force people to post news in separate threads.
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If it's just the two of us, then so be it... but I don't understand why "Batum agrees to sign an offer sheet" isn't its own thread :)

Ed O.
 
Good post by Hollinger on Wolves signings and their lack of capspace. It's kind of mind boggling actually.

So what is Minnesota's next move?

Little-known fact: They need one.

The Wolves announced deals with Nicolas Batum and Brandon Roy on Thursday, which would potentially fix Minnesota's lack of quality on the wings.

One problem: They don't actually have the money. The most cap room Minnesota can generate -- by waiving Martell Webster and Brad Miller, renouncing their rights to Anthony Tolliver and using the amnesty tag on Darko Milicic -- is $12.3 million. The announced deals for Batum and Roy have a combined 2012-13 value of $15.6 million. (The deal for Batum was announced at $45 million with incentives that could take it into the 50s, but for cap purposes, these would have to be "unlikely" incentives -- win the MVP award, make the Finals, that sort of thing).

Somehow, the Wolves need to create an additional $3.3 million of cap space between now and July 11. Perhaps it won't be so hard. Trading Luke Ridnour or J.J. Barea to a team under the cap would accomplish the task, and it's not as if Minnesota has a point guard shortage. Nonetheless, teams talking trade with the Wolves know they have them over a barrel and can perhaps extract better terms as a result...
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http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/stor...-second-guessing-minnesota-timberwolves-moves
 
Natebishop3 said:
Badmouthing the team and burning bridges goes above and beyond "playing hardball" imo. Shopping your client around and getting the best offer is to be expected, and I don't fault them for that, but running your mouth and saying that the team didn't use you correctly is uncalled for. It just sounds like you're a spoiled brat who is making excuses.
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No, it doesn't, it sounds like making your case for why you're better than your numbers. Marketing is certainly part of getting your best offer.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Well that's great, and I can empathize with wanting a fresh start, but this is a business. He's an RFA, and both he and his agent know that we have right of first refusal. He is a commodity. He has value and we are entitled to either keep him or trade him. That's our prerogative. I have a hard time feeling sorry for someone who is about to make that much money. So when he goes out and talks shit about his old team, and tries to force his way out of town, that makes me think his ego has outgrown his actual production and I think his agent is behind it.
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I don't feel sorry for him, he's about to get paid. I was just explaining the rationale for why he might want out and him stating why doesn't necessarily make him a prima donna or a brat.
 
Ed O said:
I really hate these huge long threads. It used to be that I could log in here and see the latest, but now all of the news is locked into page 3, 9, 14, and 26 of 28 pages. I have to go to other sites to get the news that I used to be able to reliably get here without having to wade through three OLive-style mega threads.

OT, I know. Just wanted to bitch a bit.

Now... on topic: I don't think it makes sense to pay Batum that much money. If Portland can get anything of value in a S&T (Derrick Williams might be too much to hope for, but...) I think it makes sense to let Batum go.

If Batum develops as we all hope, he will turn out to be worth his contract. If he doesn't, we're stuck with a mediocre player at a spot that is relatively easy to fill.

I like Nic, but I don't like him eating up a fifth of our cap.

Ed O.
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I'm going to start locking all threads longer than 7 posts.
 
They have yet to make roster moves to free up some cap, with a $45m offer on the table, I think Kahn is straight up trolling Neil and Paul.
 
ironcrotch said:
Good post by Hollinger on Wolves signings and their lack of capspace. It's kind of mind boggling actually.



http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/stor...-second-guessing-minnesota-timberwolves-moves
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Very Interesting. I'll be curious to hear the actual signed offer sheet value, you don't think the Wolves and Batum's agent could have "agreed" to this deal to pressure the Blazers into a sign and trade? I want to see the Wolves forced to actually put their money where their mouth is.
 
I am surprised, however, that Portland turned down a Webster-Derrick Williams sign-and-trade offer for Batum. This is connected to the Blazers' insistence on not playing LaMarcus Aldridge at the 5; while they've been dramatically more effective when he plays that spot in recent seasons, he prefers to play the 4 and spare himself some banging. But going forward, I'd much rather have Williams at half the price. (Webster, with a non-guaranteed deal, would be waived on arrival).
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Is this real? WTF Neil?
 
Unless I'm remembering things wrongly, the reason Nic wasn't driving to the hoop more is that he doesn't have the handles to do that. Why he wants to blame the Blazers for that is lost on me.

Go Blazers
 
oldguy said:
Unless I'm remembering things wrongly, the reason Nic wasn't driving to the hoop more is that he doesn't have the handles to do that. Why he wants to blame the Blazers for that is lost on me.

Go Blazers
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He did it a lot for France last summer
 
Mediocre Man said:
Is this real? WTF Neil?
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Maybe I'm just guessing here, but something tells me that Paul's emotions still have veto power -- Is PA really going to let Minny "win" when it comes to contract chicken?
 
Mediocre Man said:
I will go ahead and stop posting the tweets then. I am sorry to disturb you
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Na man go ahead and post anything that hasn't been posted. Ya just have to accept I'm gonna bust your balls anytime ironcrotch beat you to posting a link ;)
 
Draco said:
Ya just have to accept I'm gonna bust your balls anytime ironcrotch beat you to posting a link ;)
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You certainly can't bust ironcrotch's balls...his crotch is made of iron.
 
Draco said:
Na man go ahead and post anything that hasn't been posted. Ya just have to accept I'm gonna bust your balls anytime ironcrotch beat you to posting a link ;)
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I'll take my chances and just let him post it.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Why should I understand? I am the dumbest guy here
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Big difference between playing dumb and being dumb.. You should understand because you're a hard ass. And the Blazers are acting hard against the Timberpups, not taking their BS.
 
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