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Well, since A: The PDP has implied the owners are going to pay for it themselves, the bond shouldn't be an issue and B: Since I've never actually believed it was going to happen anyway, I'm not upset either way.

hm, I misread the article. Disregard A and put more emphasis on B. This town doesn't know a good thing when it's sitting right in their lap. Never has, and probably never will. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted...at least now i don't have to waste 4-5 years waiting for a team to maybe show up.
 
julius said:
Well, since A: The PDP has implied the owners are going to pay for it themselves, the bond shouldn't be an issue and B: Since I've never actually believed it was going to happen anyway, I'm not upset either way.

hm, I misread the article. Disregard A and put more emphasis on B. This town doesn't know a good thing when it's sitting right in their lap. Never has, and probably never will. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted...at least now i don't have to waste 4-5 years waiting for a team to maybe show up.
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The second point is probably spot on. Doubt anything comes of this whole dog and pony show
 
Mediocre Man said:
The second point is probably spot on. Doubt anything comes of this whole dog and pony show
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Yep. It just feels like the city will get used now, as leverage for another team to get a better deal with their city. We need more bike lanes and areas we can let homeless squat anyways.
 
Eh. Pretty predictable really. Probably kills any outside interest in future sports investment here. Most will take note and stay away. The fact we actually have pro sports here came down to expansion at the perfect time in both leagues. Well. At least we got something.
 
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Natebishop3 said:
God I fucking hate Ginny Burdick.

Why repeal this? What possible reason is there? The money comes from imaginary players and staff that don't exist at this point. They're just assholes.
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It's weird, do they just not understand the old bill? Most likely they think they can somehow get that money to go towards something else. I really don't like political discussions but don't they have more pressing needs to focus on?
 
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julius said:
Well, since A: The PDP has implied the owners are going to pay for it themselves, the bond shouldn't be an issue and B: Since I've never actually believed it was going to happen anyway, I'm not upset either way.

hm, I misread the article. Disregard A and put more emphasis on B. This town doesn't know a good thing when it's sitting right in their lap. Never has, and probably never will. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted...at least now i don't have to waste 4-5 years waiting for a team to maybe show up.
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I hate our politicians. I really do. They all suck. Not a single good one.
 
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A popular theory going around( heard about it today on Issac and Suke) is that some lobbyists in Hillsboro are spearheading this thing and using the Hops. They would severely be affected if Major League Baseball came to Portland.

In other words, it's a political agenda.

Edit: Listened again and corrected.
 
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hoopsjock said:
It's weird, do they just not understand the old bill? Most likely they think they can someone get that money to go towards something else. I really don't like political discussions but don't they have more pressing needs to focus on?
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This moron says on her website that she's in favor of job creation...... so....... which is it?
 
RipCityDSCPL said:
A popular theory going around( heard about it today on Issac and Suke) is that some representives in Hillsboro are spearheading this thing with support of the Hops. They would severely be affected if Major League Baseball came to Portland.

In other words, it's a political agenda.
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That would be so Portland to kill a MLB team coming here because of a Short Season Class A Minor League Team.
 
RipCityDSCPL said:
A popular theory going around( heard about it today on Issac and Suke) is that some representives in Hillsboro are spearheading this thing with support of the Hops. They would severely be affected if Major League Baseball came to Portland.

In other words, it's a political agenda.
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Why would politicians advocate for derailing a billion dollar project for a SS Single A baseball team with a following smaller than your local 4 H club?

No seriously, the Hops aren't even a full time minor league operation. So what powerful lobby is going to pull favors with local politicians to kill a few multi-millionaires business interests? The local groupies that won't have any fresh meat to grind anymore?
 
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ripcityboy said:
Why would politicians advocate for derailing a billion dollar project for a SS Single A baseball team with a following smaller than your local 4 H club?

No seriously, the Hops aren't even a full time operation monor league operation. So what powerful lobby is going to pull favors with local politicians to kill a few multi-millionaires business interests? The local Baseball Annies that won't have any fresh teen meat to grind anymore?
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If you know or have a more plausible theory I am sure we would love to hear it. Did you listen to the segment? I was paraphrasing so I am sure I didn't get it word for word correct. It is probably it's own clip on their site.

https://omny.fm/shows/primetime-wit...ctedClip=67d9d8cd-3682-41ce-8dd6-a9d20018e7e6

* Conversation starts at 9:55.
 
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RipCityDSCPL said:
If you know or have a more plausible theory I am sure we would love to hear it. Did you listen to the segment? I was paraphrasing so I am sure I didn't get it word for word correct. It is probably it's own clip on their site.
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Well. There has got to be a ton of citizens shouting "NIMBY" at this project. Sponsoring a bill like this would probably curry a lot of favor with them. I can easily them using the Hops as a reason to prop up the bill though. A small semi-pro baseball team would probably bring a tear to their eyes the same way a food cart would.
 
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ripcityboy said:
Well. There has got to be a ton of citizens shouting "NIMBY" at this project. Sponsoring a bill like this would probably curry a lot of favor with them. I can easily them using the Hops as a reason to prop up the bill though. A small semi-pro baseball team would probably bring a tear to their eyes the same way a food cart would.
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I see it more as the Hillsboro peeps are happy with their Hops, and want to torpedo anything that might threaten them, so they're going to find ways to stir up dissent amongst other Oregonians solely because it might benefit them. The Portland "NIMBY's" are just pawns for the Hillsborans' agenda.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I see it more as the Hillsboro peeps are happy with their Hops, and want to torpedo anything that might threaten them, so they're going to find ways to stir up dissent amongst other Oregonians solely because it might benefit them. The Portland "NIMBY's" are just pawns for the Hillsborans' agenda.
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I live in cornelius, but spend most of my time in Hillsboro, and I havent heard a single person talk about the portland mlb team in person. I hear people talk about wanting a NHL team, an NFL team, and theres a lot of talk about sports.
Maybe they’re hoping if they never talk about it, it wont happen. All about the Hops!
 
hoopsjock said:
It's weird, do they just not understand the old bill? Most likely they think they can somehow get that money to go towards something else. I really don't like political discussions but don't they have more pressing needs to focus on?
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You mean like the ever-growing fiscal disaster that is the unfunded PERS liability? Of course they do - but dealing with actual problems is hard.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I see it more as the Hillsboro peeps are happy with their Hops, and want to torpedo anything that might threaten them, so they're going to find ways to stir up dissent amongst other Oregonians solely because it might benefit them. The Portland "NIMBY's" are just pawns for the Hillsborans' agenda.
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Still I am not buying it. Just doesn't pass the smell test. A tail can wag the dog but when it's the MLB equivalent of low rent boutique shop it makes no sense. Now Portlanders sitting in front of their HDTV's and complaining on social media that the billionaire investors interested in their city aren't the kind they want? That sounds like something that could give any local politician a stiffy.
 
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tlongII said:
The Hops are a well run organization. Probably the best single A stadium in the country.
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You have very obviously never followed the Salem-Keizer Volcanoes or attended one of their games. The Hops have a great organization (and stadium) but fortunately for them, they have had the Volcanoes template to follow. We’re lucky to have two such terrific options within driving distance.....
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
You have very obviously never followed the Salem-Keizer Volcanoes or attended one of their games. The Hops have a great organization (and stadium) but fortunately for them, they have had the Volcanoes template to follow. We’re lucky to have two such terrific options within driving distance.....
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You are correct. Never been to a Volcanoes game. I've seen their stadium driving by on I-5 and it looks nice.
 
Did anybody see the list of investors in the baseball project? I was less than impressed. If you combined the net worth of all those people you would be well short of $1B.
 
tlongII said:
Did anybody see the list of investors in the baseball project? I was less than impressed. If you combined the net worth of all those people you would be well short of $1B.
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That's how I felt too. It was a who's who of who of you has enough money?
 
tlongII said:
Did anybody see the list of investors in the baseball project? I was less than impressed. If you combined the net worth of all those people you would be well short of $1B.
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They're listed as "Charter Investors" and provided the money needed to get the project off the ground. I'm sure that taking the next step would have to involve finding a major investor or two. Or ten.
 
e_blazer said:
They're listed as "Charter Investors" and provided the money needed to get the project off the ground. I'm sure that taking the next step would have to involve finding a major investor or two. Or ten.
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Allegedly, the "major" investors are the foreign guys, whose names are yet to be released.
 
e_blazer said:
They're listed as "Charter Investors" and provided the money needed to get the project off the ground. I'm sure that taking the next step would have to involve finding a major investor or two. Or ten.
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Or it could also mean that they already have those guys lined up, but don't want to announce their involvement yet.
 
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