Notice NBA Considers Changing Shot Clock Rule.....

[julius]

I have HCP, Nik, and MM on ignore.

Why is @HCP unable to see this?

 

[H.C.]

Sorry, nobody's gonna tell me when and when I can't make a thread so I won't advocate that for another.

He didn't break any forum rules making this thread and not only that, it's a good thread.

I'm not sure where your irritations are coming from.

@KingSpeed you're gonna need to either take some people of ignore or read the forum. One of these things needs to happen.

Edit
Around the NBA thread august would be a perfect place for this.
But frankly, it just doesn't matter.

Should at least fix the title, like @HAAK72 suggested.

 

[H.C.]

Preach mothafucka preach!!!!!

Listen here.
You're just like KS. The forum mascot.

 

[dviss1]

I think I agree with you here, but I also think at least a play could be run in 14 seconds. Speaking strictly Blazers here, but Dame doesn’t usually start the offense until 14-15 seconds are on the clock anyways. With this change, you probably can’t run a full offensive set in the sense of multiple options. So say Ed gets a rebound passes it out to a guard the shot clock probably is down to 8-9 before the guard is able to set up a new play. Now it’s a little arbitrary, but If they want it to be less than 24 seconds, I’d be more ok with it, if it was say reset to 18 seconds.

This is just not true.

Also, with a rebound and a kick out, by the time all the players get into the set, I'd wager there would be about 10 seconds to run a play. Therefore, semi penalizing offensive rebounds.

 

[dviss1]

Edit
Around the NBA thread august would be a perfect place for this.
But frankly, it just doesn't matter.

Should at least fix the title, like @HAAK72 suggested.

I again disagree. I miss things all the time in that thread and this rule change discussion deserves its own thread. So instead of wasting time going back and forth about where the thread should be, let's talk about the subject.

 

[CupWizier]

Holy Shit!

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/...d-among-likely-nba-rules-changes-report-says/

I don;t think it will change the game that much except for the end of the game when the team that is ahead tries to run the clock out. I don;t know what the stats are but I bet most teams during the course of the game get a shot back up within 14 seconds as the goal of this rule is to limit the stalling at the end.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

This is just not true.

Also, with a rebound and a kick out, by the time all the players get into the set, I'd wager there would be about 10 seconds to run a play. Therefore, semi penalizing offensive rebounds.

I’d like more evidence that it isn’t true other than you just saying that. To my eyes Dame walks the ball up court especially after the other team scores almost every play and neber seems to be in much of a hurry.

I agree that it would take the clock down to much, that why I said if they feel like they need to reset it to less than 24 seconds than I think 18 seconds is a better number than 14.

 

[borim69]

What are you talking about? You're misinterpreting the change.

• "A personal foul is committed on any offensive player during his team's transition scoring opportunity."

This change is regarding off ball fouling in transition when it relates to a clear path foul. The change simply means that if A2 is fouled he shoots the free throws instead of A1 (the offensive player with the ball).

It was my understanding that they get the ball back after the foul shot if that is not the case anymore then I do not care. If that is the case then I think it is a crappy rule.

 

[THE HCP]

Is this rule change the reason for not bringing my back Ed?

 

[dviss1]

It was my understanding that they get the ball back after the foul shot if that is not the case anymore then I do not care. If that is the case then I think it is a crappy rule.

You do get 2 free throws and possession. And it's a great rule.

First of all, safety 1st. It stops unnecessary contact on fast breaks. The most devastating injuries happen in fast breaks.

Secondly, people want to see fast break dunks. They're exciting.

2 shots and the ball discourages dangerous contact and keeps excitement in the game.

 

[dviss1]

Is this rule change the reason for not bringing my back Ed?

Lol no. Just Neil Olshey stupidity.

 

[dviss1]

I’d like more evidence that it isn’t true other than you just saying that. To my eyes Dame walks the ball up court especially after the other team scores almost every play and neber seems to be in much of a hurry.

I agree that it would take the clock down to much, that why I said if they feel like they need to reset it to less than 24 seconds than I think 18 seconds is a better number than 14.

Bro, there's an 8 second backcourt rule. That alone means we need at least 16 seconds to start the play. Also, Dame rarely walks the ball up the court. It's usually a jog and it takes about 4 seconds with no backcourt pressure.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Lol no. Just Neil Olshey stupidity.

They need a new button, there’s like and 100x like...

 

[dviss1]

They need a new button, there’s like and 100x like...

Get on this @Denny Crane!!

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Bro, there's an 8 second backcourt rule. That alone means we need at least 16 seconds to start the play. Also, Dame rarely walks the ball up the court. It's usually a jog and it takes about 4 seconds with no backcourt pressure.

I know that rule yeah... I mean I guess we can call that a jog? I guess in my opinion it seems like when Dame is out there he’s a much more methodical pg and doesn’t seem to be in a huge hurry to get things going. This isn’t a slight, Dames awesome. I just don’t see him as the Westbrook type of get the ball up court and get into the offense early in the clock. You might be right it’s not 14 seconds but they take a lot of the clock most possessions.

 

[dviss1]

I know that rule yeah... I mean I guess we can call that a jog? I guess in my opinion it seems like when Dame is out there he’s a much more methodical pg and doesn’t seem to be in a huge hurry to get things going. This isn’t a slight, Dames awesome. I just don’t see him as the Westbrook type of get the ball up court and get into the offense early in the clock. You might be right it’s not 14 seconds but they take a lot of the clock most possessions.

Keep your eyes on the shot clock when Dame crosses the timeline:

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Keep your eyes on the shot clock when Dame crosses the timeline:

So far I’m 3 minutes in (sorry bad reception) I count like 4 plays early in the clock, 3 plays later in the clock and some of them were just against the clock in general.
I’ll have to watch it when I get home.

 

[dviss1]

So far I’m 3 minutes in (sorry bad reception) I count like 4 plays early in the clock, 3 plays later in the clock and some of them were just against the clock in general.
I’ll have to watch it when I get home.

Later in the clock doesn't mean he didn't cross the timeline. You have to use the game clock too. In those 3 instances, those are late in the game clock.
Take the play against Dallas when he takes the long three at 1:18. That's not when the play started, it's where it ended. When we begin our plays we usually have about 19-20 seconds.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

http://www.espn.com/nba/hollinger/teamstats/_/sort/paceFactor

https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/possessions-per-game

Those kind of indicate that the Blazers are like slightly below average in pace. I don’t know what else to say, I don’t really think that the Blazers and Dame get out and get early offense all that much.

I’m not sure how I’m just flat out wrong, but I definitely could be and I probably was about the 14 second thing it probably is a couple seconds more like 16ish.

 

[dviss1]

http://www.espn.com/nba/hollinger/teamstats/_/sort/paceFactor

https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/possessions-per-game

Those kind of indicate that the Blazers are like slightly below average in pace. I don’t know what else to say, I don’t really think that the Blazers and Dame get out and get early offense all that much.

I’m not sure how I’m just flat out wrong, but I definitely could be and I probably was about the 14 second thing it probably is a couple seconds more like 16ish.

Pace doesn't have much to do with when you start your play. It's when your play ends. Like D'antoni's 7 seconds or less offense.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Pace doesn't have much to do with when you start your play. It's when your play ends. Like D'antoni's 7 seconds or less offense.

Fair enough. Though there is a reason the Blazers were last in fast break points, and played against set defenses a lot.
You’re probably right that 14 seconds was an incorrect number and it’s higher at least by a few seconds.

 

[BonesJones]

This is just not true.

Also, with a rebound and a kick out, by the time all the players get into the set, I'd wager there would be about 10 seconds to run a play. Therefore, semi penalizing offensive rebounds.

It's rare teams would set up after an offensive rebound though.

 

[dviss1]

It's rare teams would set up after an offensive rebound though.

That's not rare at all and used to happen all the time off of Przybilla, Camby, Rolo tip outs.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

That's not rare at all and used to happen all the time off of Przybilla, Camby, Rolo tip outs.

People can hate on camby all they want but he was so freakin good at controlled tipping the ball out to a guard.

 

[dviss1]

Why would you question him having Nick on IGNORE and not The HCP?

Lol. I know you and him have history.