Exclusive NBA Trade Deadline Thread 2024

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cdub503 said:
killian hayes being released....?
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Pistons waiving Killian Hayes: Sources

The Detroit Pistons are waiving Killian Hayes, the No. 7 pick in the 2020 NBA Draft, league sources confirm to The Athletic.

sources say so!
 
seems joe saying "check" at the poker table
 
Think the most substantial move so far has been Dallas landing Daniel Gafford. A rim running/protecting big (who isn't a rookie) is going to make a massive difference to Luka's playoff prospects. PJ Washington also a decent addition.

Dallas looks scary for the playoffs if they can stay healthy.
 
KingSpeed said:
I’m confused by this tweet. We all know this. Why act like it’s a secret?

League sources: Michael Jordan played for the Bulls.
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A lot of casual fans actually don't know that Seth and Steph are brothers. I've had that conversation several times with people who played competitively.
 
illmatic99 said:
Think the most substantial move so far has been Dallas landing Daniel Gafford. A rim running/protecting big (who isn't a rookie) is going to make a massive difference to Luka's playoff prospects.
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Not just a question for you but does anyone in here think that the biggest move of this deadline comes in this final 40 minutes?
 
blazerkor said:
Not just a question for you but does anyone in here think that the biggest move of this deadline comes in this final 40 minutes?
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The only bigger move could be Dejounte. Not sure who else would qualify.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I fall in the middle. Don't get fleeced, but don't demand a Pritch-slap. Find a good deal that makes sense and take the win.
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That's fine... then you should be with me, pushing back against people dropping the "slow Joe" comment(s). Speed isn't the priority.
 

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John Hollinger·
Senior Writer, NBA
Is PJ Washington even an upgrade on Grant Williams?

I think there is a pretty major disconnect between the idea of PJ Washington and the reality of PJ Washington.

The idea part is that he's a positionless, switchable defender who can stretch the floor from 3 or punish smaller defenders on the block. The reality is he's not particularly good at any of these things and overtly bad at the defensive part in particular, making him sort of a blah jack-of-all-trades who continually frustrated the Hornets.

Charlotte coach Steve Clifford’s comments after a recent loss to the Lakers may have been tagging Washington.

"You know how many guys there are in our league that can average 15 or 16 (points) and are no good? Their team never wins when they're out there, and because they score 15 or 16, they stick around for five or six years," Clifford said.

Washington, I'll remind you, is in his fifth season and averaged 15.7 points a game in 2022-23. His defense, in particular, has been invisible for most of the season; the biggest variable in this trade is whether the Mavs can coax him into being a more active, aware force on this end of the floor.

Needless to say, the Mavericks giving up their only real trade asset — their 2027 first-round pick — just to turn Grant Williams into Washington doesn't feel like a big win to me. I get that Washington has more offensive upside that might prove useful in a playoff game, but again, that's been more theoretical. We're talking about a 35.9 percent career 3-point shooter who doesn't rebound or draw fouls. Williams, meanwhile, shoots 37.8 percent from 3 for his career. I get that Washington has more juice on the ball and in the paint, but his True Shooting marks have been 54.2 and 54.5 the last two seasons.

Needless to say, this is an amazing trade for Charlotte. Grant Williams might have been overrated in Boston, but he's exactly the type of dirty-work guy the Bugs have lacked. To get a very lightly protected first-round pick from Dallas out of it makes this arguably the best trade by the Hornets in the Mitch Kupchak Era.

(Ironically it might also be the last one, but still).
 
I think the trading is done. Certainly POR most boring deadline ever. Grant's contract is a lot to stomach for most teams. Everyone knows he is pretty much allergic to rebounding. A good scorer though and a Blazer til he retires!!
 
blazerfan11 said:

44m ago

John Hollinger·
Senior Writer, NBA
Is PJ Washington even an upgrade on Grant Williams?

I think there is a pretty major disconnect between the idea of PJ Washington and the reality of PJ Washington.

The idea part is that he's a positionless, switchable defender who can stretch the floor from 3 or punish smaller defenders on the block. The reality is he's not particularly good at any of these things and overtly bad at the defensive part in particular, making him sort of a blah jack-of-all-trades who continually frustrated the Hornets.

Charlotte coach Steve Clifford’s comments after a recent loss to the Lakers may have been tagging Washington.

"You know how many guys there are in our league that can average 15 or 16 (points) and are no good? Their team never wins when they're out there, and because they score 15 or 16, they stick around for five or six years," Clifford said.

Washington, I'll remind you, is in his fifth season and averaged 15.7 points a game in 2022-23. His defense, in particular, has been invisible for most of the season; the biggest variable in this trade is whether the Mavs can coax him into being a more active, aware force on this end of the floor.

Needless to say, the Mavericks giving up their only real trade asset — their 2027 first-round pick — just to turn Grant Williams into Washington doesn't feel like a big win to me. I get that Washington has more offensive upside that might prove useful in a playoff game, but again, that's been more theoretical. We're talking about a 35.9 percent career 3-point shooter who doesn't rebound or draw fouls. Williams, meanwhile, shoots 37.8 percent from 3 for his career. I get that Washington has more juice on the ball and in the paint, but his True Shooting marks have been 54.2 and 54.5 the last two seasons.

Needless to say, this is an amazing trade for Charlotte. Grant Williams might have been overrated in Boston, but he's exactly the type of dirty-work guy the Bugs have lacked. To get a very lightly protected first-round pick from Dallas out of it makes this arguably the best trade by the Hornets in the Mitch Kupchak Era.

(Ironically it might also be the last one, but still).
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Great example of making a move to make a move, but losing the trade.
 
Cugel said:
I think the trading is done. Certainly POR most boring deadline ever. Grant's contract is a lot to stomach for most teams. Everyone knows he is pretty much allergic to rebounding. A good scorer though and a Blazer til he retires!!
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I think Jerami has good value around the league but I think Joe and probably most of us have a higher price tag on him than other front offices. So I think a lot of GMs would "stomach" Jerami's contract for a FRP and matching salaries or maybe even more, I just don't think Joe can stomach anything he sees as an underpay. I just hope Joe doesn't overvalue guys that don't actually have a future with our team that would include winning playoff series.
 
illmatic99 said:
Luka can make a lot of average guys better than they appear. But the real prize in their moves today is Gafford.
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What's the relevance here? Grant Williams was a good player before going to Dallas. He's been measurably worse this year playing with Luka.
 
illmatic99 said:
Luka can make a lot of average guys better than they appear. But the real prize in their moves today is Gafford.
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He couldn't make Grant Williams look better than he appeared.

I liked the Gafford add, but I'm with Hollinger regarding the PJ Washington trade.
 
Tince said:
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Well, we kind of did by trading him to Milwaukee.



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btw, is it bad that Milwaukee trading with Philly made me think of 2 sinking ships where the rats are jumping from one to the other... ?
 
McBuckets to the Pacers is a huge finale to this deadline...

 
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