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BonesJones said:
And none of us know how much Brogdons veteran mentorship has helped Scoot whatsoever. If we only spoke on things we know as a 100% fact, this forum wouldn't exist.
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Right. So to say it is meaningless is just as asinine as me saying it means everything.
But some here are completely adamant it means nothing and can be found anywhere. I find that type of matter of fact opinion to just not be accurate.

I believe it has some value. I agree that value may have a range that none of us know. But what I do know is the team will have a much better assessment of that value than any of us and their action or inaction answers the gauge of value they put on it.
 
cdub503 said:
Legit this, There are tons of posters here with stupid high expectations, either of players or the team. And then they have complete melt downs when the crazy shit doesnt happen. Maybe I am too casual of a fan, but I am not going to let a blazers loss or bad game ruin my day, definitely not this team. Maybe if it was some playoffs type stuff and we actually have a decent chance then maybe ill let it ruin my day but till then people just need to reeeeellaaaaaax.....
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It’s funny how some of those same posters hold onto things too. like I’ll give those same posters credit on things but me?ha!!! Never.
 
SharpeScooterShooter said:
Right. So to say it is meaningless is just as asinine as me saying it means everything.
But some here are completely adamant it means nothing and can be found anywhere. I find that type of matter of fact opinion to just not be accurate.

I believe it has some value. I agree that value may have a range that none of us know. But what I do know is the team will have a much better assessment of that value than any of us and their action or inaction answers the gauge of value they put on it.
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It means something, but not as much as m cheating the logjam at guard going into next season plus getting assets that can help them further maximize their future window.

In my opinion, maybe due to Brogdons leadership, Scoot should be ready to take a leap next year and needs the opportunity to do so. Do you still want Brogdon on the team in that case when we'll also have Sharpe and Simons?
 
cdub503 said:
Legit this, There are tons of posters here with stupid high expectations, either of players or the team. And then they have complete melt downs when the crazy shit doesnt happen. Maybe I am too casual of a fan, but I am not going to let a blazers loss or bad game ruin my day, definitely not this team. Maybe if it was some playoffs type stuff and we actually have a decent chance then maybe ill let it ruin my day but till then people just need to reeeeellaaaaaax.....
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When expecting more than nothing and expecting a direction is "expecting too much", that's how you know you're in trouble.
 


Not a fan of Joe, but I'm just not seeing what there is to be upset about today. Seems people are mad that he wasn't able to manufacture trade value that didn't exist or we're somehow hindering the development of our young players by keeping some of these guys. Just don't agree with either assessment.
 
B-Roy said:


Not a fan of Joe, but I'm just not seeing what there is to be upset about today. Seems people are mad that he wasn't able to manufacture trade value that didn't exist or we're somehow hindering the development of our young players by keeping some of these guys. Just don't agree with either assessment.
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I have difficulty buying the line that "heavy" interest didn't result in at least reasonable value.
 
B-Roy said:


Not a fan of Joe, but I'm just not seeing what there is to be upset about today. Seems people are mad that he wasn't able to manufacture trade value that didn't exist or we're somehow hindering the development of our young players by keeping some of these guys. Just don't agree with either assessment.
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I think people in here wanted him traded for two 2nd round picks today when just a week ago those same people said don't trade him without getting a mid 1st. People decided they wanted a trade just for the sake of trading.
 
The Mavericks traded bench guys and a pick for Charlotte's prized young Forward PJ Washington.

this is not going to make Blazers Uprise happy. Those cats had PJ earmarked for the last couple years.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I have difficulty buying the line that "heavy" interest didn't result in at least reasonable value.
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Agreed... seems like a weak attempt to drive up value for him in the future.
 
Whyachi said:
The Mavericks traded bench guys and a pick for Charlotte's prized young Forward PJ Washington.

this is not going to make Blazers Uprise happy. Those cats had PJ earmarked for the last couple years.
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But had the Blazers given up two contributors and a 1st round pick for a guy who is a poor defender and who's offensive stats may be empty, that wouldn't have gone over well either.
 
BonesJones said:
It means something, but not as much as m cheating the logjam at guard going into next season plus getting assets that can help them further maximize their future window.

In my opinion, maybe due to Brogdons leadership, Scoot should be ready to take a leap next year and needs the opportunity to do so. Do you still want Brogdon on the team in that case when we'll also have Sharpe and Simons?
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Is it guaranteed we will have Simon’s?
you are making assumptions

have we had a healthy roster at all this year? Could be the same next year?
 
I’m pretty sure Joe holds Brodgon as more valuable than a couple seconds or a middle first.
He like be wrong but I think he is making that value assessment based on his return for Dame and Dames value.
 
Also. The moves made around the league put a foundation under the opinion that there wasn’t much of a market for him at this time.
 
For the record I’m still on the fence about Joe. But I’m trying to keep things in a realistic perspective.
Nba2k has ruined many fans valuation assessments and trade marketability. lol.
 
SharpeScooterShooter said:
I’m pretty sure Joe holds Brodgon as more valuable than a couple seconds or a middle first.
He like be wrong but I think he is making that value assessment based on his return for Dame and Dames value.
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I think it would be a mistake for him to factor in what he got in return for Dame because the rest of the league doesn't care about that.

If I bought my car for $10k under/over market, I wouldn't factor that in when it's time for me to sell because the previous transaction has nothing to do with the market value today.
 
blazerkor said:
I have seen enough of Joe's inactivity to watch it drive Dame out the door. Read too many times that people that post in this forum are sure Joe didn't have a deal to be made. That story gets pretty damn old and less believable every time it's told.
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I bet you Dame liked Joe's trade so much this deadline he is not going to ask to be traded from Portland again.

Prove me wrong, FAM. Prove me.
 
Tince said:
I think it would be a mistake for him to factor in what he got in return for Dame because the rest of the league doesn't care about that.

If I bought my car for $10k under/over market, I wouldn't factor that in when it's time for me to sell because the previous transaction has nothing to do with the market value today.
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Oh I do agree with that. Why I’m not sold on him yet. But also far from ready to give him the axe.
 
Tince said:
But had the Blazers given up two contributors and a 1st round pick for a guy who is a poor defender and who's offensive stats may be empty, that wouldn't have gone over well either.
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Washington would have been an ideal replacement for Jerami Grant. There would be 0 pressure to win, and save cap space for improvements down the road. PJ is still honing his craft towards a bright future.

The Blazers must have other windows open during this year's rebuild. Windows that seem to have a strange locking lever for my fellow assistant GM's to peer through and visualize.
 
Whyachi said:
Washington would have been an ideal replacement for Jerami Grant. There would be 0 pressure to win, and save cap space for improvements down the road. PJ is still honing his craft towards a bright future. The Blazers must have other windows open during this year's rebuild, that seem to have a strange locking lever for my fellow assistant GM's.
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You think the Blazers need a below average defender at PF to pair next to Ayton, Ant, and Scoot? I don't.

You would've wanted to give up a 1st, and two of our rotation players (Thybulle and Walker) for him? Not me.
 
I will say this. This offseason we should see some action or his seat is getting warm. If nothing by next trade deadline, big swing action, it might be time to grab a pitchfork.
 
Tince said:
You think the Blazers need a below average defender at PF to pair next to Ayton, Ant, and Scoot? I don't.

You would've wanted to give up a 1st, and two of our rotation players (Thybulle and Walker) for him? Not me.
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PJ is young, still learning. Coach Billups is a defensive tactician, and Washington would have become a 2-way monster in the Billups stand and do nothing zone.
 
Perhaps Brogden wasn't traded for what was being offered BECAUSE the Blazers DO have a direction and a vision of what they are trying to build?
 
noknobs said:
You're honestly comparing Dame to 19 (now 20) year old Scoot? lol.

EDIT: And yes I was worried about Scoot's confidence. The player I've seen for the majority of the year hasn't shown me confidence as a leading PG, especially with decision making. Just because he's vocal when he makes a play doesn't mean he's a confident player... But I think he's improving, it just takes time...
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No, I’m not comparing them. I’m comparing the vet’s impact. I’ll ask again—would Dame be better than he is today with the equivalent of today’s Brogdon as a mentor as opposed to Williams and Watson? My point was that Brogdon is noticeably better than both guys, and Dame still became Dame. That’s not a comparison of Scoot and Dame. That’s comparing the mentors that they’ve had. If Scoot had, say, Delon Wright, as a mentor instead of Brogdon, is Scoot going to ultimately become an inferior player compared to if he has Brogdon for the entire season? I’m not downplaying Brogdon as a mentor, it’s just that people who keep saying veteran mentorship haven’t been able to see what the day-to-day relationship between Scoot and Brogdon.

We’ll agree to disagree on Scoot’s confidence. I’ve watched over half of Scoot’s home games live. Dudes who lack confidence don’t shoot 25+ times when they are having a terrible shooting night. Dudes who lack confidence aren’t as boisterous after huge plays like he is.
 
BBert said:
Perhaps Brogden wasn't traded for what was being offered BECAUSE the Blazers DO have a direction and a vision of what they are trying to build?
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set this rebuild on cruise control, then rebuild off this rebuild in 2029 ?? The ping pong balls will flow once again.
 
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