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BrianFromWA said:
that's actually a bit worse.

We don't want Frye? I mean, I guess one of the best-shooting big men ever to play the 4/stretch 5 off the bench for us for 7M wouldn't have been good.
I guess you can say you don't want Clarkson. I mean, he's a better Patty Ice, but he makes more. When you're worried about profit I can see that not being good.
I guess we don't need Isaiah with Dame and Cj, so you win that one, Neil.
Rodney Hood and Jae Crowder are about the fucking definition of what we need to round out this team.
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Maybe Neil didn't really want players like Hood and Crowder because he seems to like players like Ezeli, Turner, Crabbe, Harkless, Meyers....you get the idea.
 
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BrianFromWA said:
1) he shouldn't have had to give up an asset for nothing for the 2nd time this year. Which one of GSW, CLE, BOS, HOU, SAS, TOR, MIN had to do that?
2) his salary management has set it up that we have "tiers" of contracts, not a spread that allows us to be buyers every year.
3) fool's errand. of course we don't know what Neil said no to, or who said no to him. Were you expecting that we would?

Can you answer this one, though? Is the team better or worse today than yesterday? And is that what you want for your team?
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So, are you going to answer the question or nah?

None of the expected expirings (Tyreke, Bradley, Belinelli, Hezonja, etc) were moved. So what should Neil have done? Overreact and offer up a first? And that would’ve helped how? None of those guys would’ve put us over the top.

We can go in circles about how he fucked up in 2016, but he’s recovered pretty well, and I’d rather it cost guys like Vonleh and Crabbe than a first round pick.
 
Scalma said:
So, are you going to answer the question or nah?

None of the expected expirings (Tyreke, Bradley, Belinelli, Hezonja, etc) were moved. So what should Neil have done? Overreact and offer up a first? And that would’ve helped how? None of those guys would’ve put us over the top.

We can go in circles about how he fucked up in 2016, but he’s recovered pretty well, and I’d rather it cost guys like Vonleh and Crabbe than a first round pick.
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Me too, but you don't get to say "good deadline, Neil, you didn't double down on sunk costs. (Oh wait, you did, by tossing an RFA by the wayside)"
 
BrianFromWA said:
Me too, but you don't get to say "good deadline, Neil, you didn't double down on sunk costs. (Oh wait, you did, by tossing an RFA by the wayside)"
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Did I say that? I said it wasn’t as bad as some are making it seem.
 
BrianFromWA said:
1) he shouldn't have had to give up an asset for nothing for the 2nd time this year. Which one of GSW, CLE, BOS, HOU, SAS, TOR, MIN had to do that?
2) his salary management has set it up that we have "tiers" of contracts, not a spread that allows us to be buyers every year.
3) fool's errand. of course we don't know what Neil said no to, or who said no to him. Were you expecting that we would?

Can you answer this one, though? Is the team better or worse today than yesterday? And is that what you want for your team?
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It wasn't this year Brian but Cleveland has done that plenty over the last few years. Houston has also done this. Toronto paid Brooklyn a 1st this last summer to take Carroll. Minnesota is still super young, just wait until all their guys become free agents.
 
I guess I was just reacting to you trying to talk down those that aren't happy with today (and though this was really the most logical move out there, I'm still one of them)...
Here’s a question I have for those that are pissed; which player that was moved should Neil have gotten?
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And that's what I was answering above. Frye, Clarkson, Hood and Crowder all could've helped us. Now, were they available for what we'd be willing to give? That's what I was saying in my #3 above...I don't have any idea what he was privy to, and you know that. But there's more to not liking what he's done than "which player should he have got?"
 
TBpup said:
Maybe Neil didn't really want players like Hood and Crowder because he seems to like players like Ezeli, Turner, Crabbe, Harkless, Meyers....you get the idea.
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Crowder has been horrible this year (not to mention I lost all respect for him when he stepped over his teammate and stared him down instead of helping him up) and Hood is yet another RFA who we'd have to pay this summer. He also plays no defense, has a really high usage rate, and does nothing other than score.
 
hoopsjock said:
Crowder has been horrible this year (not to mention I lost all respect for him when he stepped over his teammate and stared him down instead of helping him up) and Hood is yet another RFA who we'd have to pay this summer. He also plays no defense, has a really high usage rate, and does nothing other than score.
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RFA meaning "we don't have to pay him if we don't want to" and "because of the depressed salary cap situation this summer can probably get him long-term signed on the cheap?"
 
hoopsjock said:
It wasn't this year Brian but Cleveland has done that plenty over the last few years. Houston has also done this. Toronto paid Brooklyn a 1st this last summer to take Carroll. Minnesota is still super young, just wait until all their guys become free agents.
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TWO 1st round picks actually!
 
blue9 said:
I'm not sure if you're joking, or if you don't realize that we DID pay CHI to take him...
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Of course I was joking. I was going to go with something like if we hadn't had developed him he would have become a serial killer. Nothing really fit with the joke that is paying someone to take a guy we "developed"
 
Dude needs to jump off a fucking cliff.
 
Natebishop3 said:
That's a little extreme, don't you think?
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It is I'm just not in a good place right now and the team is what makes things better and it's my escape but this fucker is managing the team into the ground.
 
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BonesJones said:
Who else?
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First interview I've heard Neil not start off by saying, "Look!"
 
Scalma said:
They’re a contender. We’re not, and there was no move to make us one today.

Here’s a question I have for those that are pissed; which player that was moved should Neil have gotten?
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Willy Hernangomez. Two 2nds and Layman. $1.4M a year the next two years. Dude has legit starter potential but wouldn't get overpaid down the line with the way the center market is and the fact that he'd be backing up Nurkic.

Would allow us to let Ed walk if Ed couldn't be resigned for cheap (he's probably better than Ed anyway).
If we resigned Ed, we could've moved him to PF (he can play with Hernangomez, Willy can shoot).
Moving Ed to PF means we could've traded Aminu for a pick or an upgrade...
Or we could've moved Aminu back the the 3 and traded Turner's awful contract (those combination of moves likely keep us under the tax next year too).

And if Nurkic gets an insane contract offer, we would've have to match, as Hernangomez has as much potential as anyone.

Would've also liked to see us trade Napier... We can't pay him but losing him will hurt too... We don't have the means to easily replace his production and we don't want to lose him for nothing, yet it's possible he's overachieved and now was the time to sell high. Could've possibly flipped Napier for Hernangomez, and then made a small trade for an underrated wing (Like James Ennis) or a veteran backup PG (like Jameer Nelson) until we were able to sign someone in Free Agency for our MLE.
 
There's just something about the way he talks though... Sounds like he's trying to sell bullshit to the fanbase and expects us to not expect anything from him because he doesn't have the options (aka ability) to improve the team.
 
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