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sheed30 said:
You can continue if you want to talk about local protests which is the the meat of this topic here. I am talking about Portland protests, the ones that happen locally on a regular bases .

What about the ones that happened a couple months ago?

Portland Police Respond to Protest Activity and Safety Concerns near ICE Building

On Sunday, June 8, 2025, at around 11:40 a.m., Officers responded back to the area on a report of unwanted individuals on private property next to the ICE Building. The property owner asked the crowd to leave his property. After several attempts to educate the group that they were on private property and providing them reasonable alternative places to lawfully hold a protest, the crowd ultimately cooperated, moving to a nearby sidewalk.

No arrests were made in regard to the protest, but one person was arrested after an officer recognized her as someone who had a warrant for Assault.

Later on Sunday, June 8, 2025, at around 7:30 p.m., Central Precinct officers continued to monitor the situation as another crowd formed in the area. PPB Dialogue Officerscontacted the group, who were unwilling to engage in dialogue. At 11 p.m., some of the individuals began spray painting the building. Officers arrested two people for Criminal Mischief in the First Degree.An additional arrest was made for a person wanted for damaging North Precinct in 2024. That person was also charged with Criminal Mischief in the First Degree.

Or the protest about deportation in April in Portland against Trump?

oh look, I found another one, just from a couple weeks ago lol. ) — Hundreds of people marched through the streets of downtown Portland Saturday afternoon protesting many of the policies and actions of the Trump administration.

or the one in july: Its quite evident protests in Portland still happen regularly in 2025 and some even still cause uneasy when they do, some doing property damage and etc.

‘Good Trouble’ protests against Trump spread throughout Northwest.


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There were a lot of marriage equality protests in Portland before it was signed into law. Same with women's rights, etc.

Movements have to start somewhere. And you have to keep them going to keep attention on them.
 
kjironman1 said:
Pretty cool idea. I like the Teacher and Firefighter idea. Maybe even add police because a bunch of them are getting a real bad rap. There are some really good cops out there.
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Unfortunately the assholes will continue to ruin it for the good ones until we fix the system.
 
sheed30 said:
not one person addressed this. Look at the comments of people and what they think of Portland. Someone else here said Happy Valley is shit lmao. I guess maybe if you live in West Linn or one of those place you would think Happy Valley is shit. and if you think Happy Valley is shit, then I would love to know what you think about other lesser parts of Portland.

Regardless, the majority of people's opinion right now about Portland is not good, from headlines, about the homeless, drug addicts and protests and their own past experiences in Portland from what it use to be.
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Happy Valley sucks because the road sucks, and because the people there are pretentious keeping up with the joneses type.

Your comment about west linn being the only place better shows you may fall into that category which makes sense why you think it's great. Your peeps.
 
Peaceful protests are great and often needed. There is no arguing that. There is a long history of it.

But violent protests that cost businesses and taxpayers millions of dollars that could have been spent elsewhere are counterproductive.

The 100 days of protest, even though it was a great cause, turned into a shit show because a certain element wanted it to be. They did not care about the cost to the taxpayers. Their goal differed from the original goal.

But back to the topic, Portland needs to be more attractive to businesses. Portland's downtown office market had one of the highest vacancy rates in the country, remaining at 35% as of March 2025. The city needs the tax dollars they generate. Foot traffic in downtown may be up, safety may have improved, but some businesses are still leaving downtown due to concerns about homelessness, safety, and high taxes. The perception of doing business in Portland needs to change.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
Happy Valley sucks because the road sucks, and because the people there are pretentious keeping up with the joneses type.

Your comment about west linn being the only place better shows you may fall into that category which makes sense why you think it's great. Your peeps.
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LMAO, oh no the roads sucks.

Your comment shows your true colors.
 
sheed30 said:
never once was it said Portland is a shithole...It was that it's a "shit show", aka what goes on there and had be going on there and what's it become compared to what it use to be imo.
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Okay. I can agree that on this thread it has not been stated that Portland is a shithole. However that has been said and my statement about not buying into that frame of thought stands.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Peaceful protests are great and often needed. There is no arguing that. There is a long history of it.

But violent protests that cost businesses and taxpayers millions of dollars that could have been spent elsewhere are counterproductive.

The 100 days of protest, even though it was a great cause, turned into a shit show because a certain element wanted it to be. They did not care about the cost to the taxpayers. Their goal differed from the original goal.

But back to the topic, Portland needs to be more attractive to businesses. Portland's downtown office market had one of the highest vacancy rates in the country, remaining at 35% as of March 2025. The city needs the tax dollars they generate. Foot traffic in downtown may be up, safety may have improved, but some businesses are still leaving downtown due to concerns about homelessness, safety, and high taxes. The perception of doing business in Portland needs to change.
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Finally common sense has entered the chat.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Peaceful protests are great and often needed. There is no arguing that. There is a long history of it.

But violent protests that cost businesses and taxpayers millions of dollars that could have been spent elsewhere are counterproductive.

The 100 days of protest, even though it was a great cause, turned into a shit show because a certain element wanted it to be. They did not care about the cost to the taxpayers. Their goal differed from the original goal.

But back to the topic, Portland needs to be more attractive to businesses. Portland's downtown office market had one of the highest vacancy rates in the country, remaining at 35% as of March 2025. The city needs the tax dollars they generate. Foot traffic in downtown may be up, safety may have improved, but some businesses are still leaving downtown due to concerns about homelessness, safety, and high taxes. The perception of doing business in Portland needs to change.
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Do you know what market based sourcing is?
 
JFizzleRaider said:
That was one part of my comment yes.

I'd love to hear more about these true colors.

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How about you go back and watch some reruns of In Living Color, because I got the same laughs watching that back in the day just as I did reading your last comment.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
Happy Valley sucks because the road sucks, and because the people there are pretentious keeping up with the joneses type.

Your comment about west linn being the only place better shows you may fall into that category which makes sense why you think it's great. Your peeps.
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I guess Oregon City and West Linn suck also because those roads certainly suck as well. I mean who actually likes to drive Willamette Falls Drive? Molalla Avenue? Never known a person who lived in West Linn that didn't think they were better than the rest of the Metro Area. Are those really the standards you are coming up with for this argument?
 
I wonder how many of you actually own a business?

Maybe from a business point of view, especially when your business has been affected by the protests, the homeless and drug addicts, if you will still be signing the same tone.

When you’re working for someone and getting a check regardless of what happens to a work place you might have a different view I guess.

When money is coming out of your own pocket for you and your family due to the things that have been going on in Portland I am 100% sure peeps would be singing a different tone
 
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kjironman1 said:
I guess Oregon City and West Linn suck also because those roads certainly suck as well. I mean who actually likes to drive Willamette Falls Drive? Molalla Avenue? Never known a person who lived in West Linn that didn't think they were better than the rest of the Metro Area. Are those really the standards you are coming up with for this argument?
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I've lived and worked in the Oregon City and West Linn area. I didn't have a problem with either.

Happy Valley is its own weird pretentious area with people ramming into each other at stop lights because they dont pay attention.
 
sheed30 said:
Oh look, we have a know it all. Instead of addressing the topic, you want to ask a question. Last I known, no know likes a know it all lol
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Its not a know it all statement. It is a very important subject to discuss when people say businesses have to stay in Portland for them to continue to collect taxes.

Knowing if someone knows what it is changes how to approach the topic.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
Do you know what market based sourcing is?
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Market based sourcing? So you are contributing all of that to remote work? I agree it definitely has had some effect and has been there since Covid but there is way more to it than that.
 
kjironman1 said:
Market based sourcing? So you are contributing all of that to remote work? I agree it definitely has had some effect and has been there since Covid but there is way more to it than that.
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I never said there wasn't more to it. But Market Based Sourcing is a big topic when discussing changing tax revenues. It is hardly a sky is falling scenario about businesses moving out to get away from taxes as people make it out to seem is all. Most people dont understand that if your business isn't in Portland, you still can owe tax to Portland.
 
RR7 said:
The Blazers have a "hero of the game" where they highlight a military veteran and give them some binoculars or something. Why just military? Why aren't they honoring a teacher, or a fireman, or...
They're not only "allowed" one game. It's that they're recognized and called to the front for one game. Cheered and celebrated instead of pushed to the back like they usually are in society at large.
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I believe it's because it's a military sponsored type thing.

We have a (weird/good) thing about honoring veterans often. And I don't mean that in the sense they shouldn't be, but it's a weird almost over correction to how people returning to the US after Vietnam were treated.

I think teams should honor positive members of their communities at every game. They can do a military/veteran, teacher/cop/firefighter, someone who works in healthcare, etc, and still have plenty of time for the stupid tic tac toe shit they do.
 
kjironman1 said:
I can understand that some might feel that way but that also might not be what it means at all. It might just mean they want to stay out of the political arena altogether and just want to allow all fans to have fun every night no matter what part of the rainbow they fall under. It's just my view but IMO the LBGT community doesn't need a special night. They should be at every game if they are fans of the teams. Why do we need to only allow them one game?
You see where I'm going with this right? Total inclusion should be the norm. Not just Pride Night.
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When someone asks the Supreme Court to invalidate your marriage, get back to me.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
I've lived and worked in the Oregon City and West Linn area. I didn't have a problem with either.

Happy Valley is its own weird pretentious area with people ramming into each other at stop lights because they dont pay attention.
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I honestly just looked for some kind of data that would support such a statement. I honestly looked with a open mind. Just nothing about any of the corridors in the Happy Valley area saying they are more dangerous that the worst 42 in the Portland Metro area. There is just nothing I can find to support that. Now as far as living in both Oregon City and West Linn as compared to Happy Valley? They seemed to be quite similar to me. Yes I have lived in all of them for extended periods of time though West Linn was by far the shortest at 3 years. Nope never going back to West Linn unless I get very rich and can move to the mansion area.
 
crandc said:
When someone asks the Supreme Court to invalidate your marriage, get back to me.
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That has absolutely nothing to do with a basketball game. Sorry. This is exactly why the whole movement has lost credibility. Keep the politics out of it and allow everyone the safe place at the game.
 
julius said:
I believe it's because it's a military sponsored type thing.

We have a (weird/good) thing about honoring veterans often. And I don't mean that in the sense they shouldn't be, but it's a weird almost over correction to how people returning to the US after Vietnam were treated.

I think teams should honor positive members of their communities at every game. They can do a military/veteran, teacher/cop/firefighter, someone who works in healthcare, etc, and still have plenty of time for the stupid tic tac toe shit they do.
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Totally agree with you on this. And I'm a Veteran.
 
kjironman1 said:
That has absolutely nothing to do with a basketball game. Sorry. This is exactly why the whole movement has lost credibility. Keep the politics out of it and allow everyone the safe place at the game.
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Correct. And back to one of my original posts, if they do get rid of Pride night, no doubt there will be a protests outside of Moda.

As a new owner coming in, if Tom makes one little misstep in the eyes on certain peeps, they will be all over him. Media too I’m sure.

What a great impression that will make on Tom about Portland as a whole.

Keep politics out the of it imo and let everyone just enjoy the game of basketball.
 
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kjironman1 said:
That has absolutely nothing to do with a basketball game. Sorry. This is exactly why the whole movement has lost credibility. Keep the politics out of it and allow everyone the safe place at the game.
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How does pride night make it unsafe for anyone?
 
kjironman1 said:
That has absolutely nothing to do with a basketball game. Sorry. This is exactly why the whole movement has lost credibility. Keep the politics out of it and allow everyone the safe place at the game.
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Do you have the same energy when they honor black history month, "keep politics out of it?"
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Peaceful protests are great and often needed. There is no arguing that. There is a long history of it.

But violent protests that cost businesses and taxpayers millions of dollars that could have been spent elsewhere are counterproductive.

The 100 days of protest, even though it was a great cause, turned into a shit show because a certain element wanted it to be. They did not care about the cost to the taxpayers. Their goal differed from the original goal.

But back to the topic, Portland needs to be more attractive to businesses. Portland's downtown office market had one of the highest vacancy rates in the country, remaining at 35% as of March 2025. The city needs the tax dollars they generate. Foot traffic in downtown may be up, safety may have improved, but some businesses are still leaving downtown due to concerns about homelessness, safety, and high taxes. The perception of doing business in Portland needs to change.
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There is no need for more offices in Portland (meaning office work doesn't need to be done there so people will not go there to do it). Portland needs to stop thinking they can rely on that office space being full.

Convert that space to other uses.
 
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