New owner... Tom Dundon?

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Why not? A more vibrant downtown would bring money to businesses. If more people live in Portland more businesses will want to be closer.

Mixed use zoning would be helpful, for sure.
But more people have been leaving Portland than coming here to live over the past few years.

Now ask yourself why is that? IMO there is not one reason for that, but you would be silly to not act like some of the things like drug addicts, homeless and affected business due to that played a role in people leaving, as well as the tax situation.
 
You literally could say any place is not like it once was. People bitch about that constantly everywhere.

Gresham is still fine. They have crime, so do many other jurisdictions. I've spent a ton of time in Rockwood. People are more scared of it's reputation than they should be. As with anything, you just need to apply your judgment and leave if situations seem to be getting weird.
 
You're talking about Rockwood, close, but that's not Gresham.

I has a uncle that live off a 176th stark back in early 60's when it basically new ranch home developments. I remember when they built that Freddies and that Heck Harper lived right on Stark Street in a big White farm style house with huge white fence around. Folks always took us to the Mult Co fair down town Gresham. I played football against Gresham mid/late sixties when they were in the Metro league. At that time David Douglas was the biggest school in the State and Madison I think second largest.
 
Lost credibility with whom? We lost credibility because we want equality? It shouldn't have anything to do with a basketball game unless someone makes it relevant by taking away our one celebration.

How do my rights make you unsafe pray tell?
Did you happen to read my statement as meaning I felt unsafe? I'm sorry. I feel very safe watching a basketball game on any night. I feel everyone should feel as confident as I on every night at every game as well. Not just one singular night. Which is my point. The Gay community are selling themselves short. Fly that flag and wear that rainbow shirt to any game you want IMO.
 
Did you happen to read my statement as meaning I felt unsafe? I'm sorry. I feel very safe watching a basketball game on any night. I feel everyone should feel as confident as I on every night at every game as well. Not just one singular night. Which is my point. The Gay community are selling themselves short. Fly that flag and wear that rainbow shirt to any game you want IMO.

I really like this inclusive message.
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No I’m serious. You ever lived in Seattle? It took me 2.5 hrs to get home from work(32 miles) for almost 3 years. The amount of traffic and dumb fucks that have moved here actually forced me onto antidepressants lol. The rain made it even worse.

I’m not gonna get into politics, which is where I feel this thread is headed. My sole reasons are the commute, the weather, and the people. Summerlin is in the western part of the Las Vegas valley. It’s not like I’m moving on the strip lol.
Yeah I’ve worked up in Seattle the past couple weeks and had to commute from Bellevue to Seattle and back during rush hour both ways……WOW is it bad! I said screw it and drove in the carpool lane the whole time. As far as Vegas, no thanks. Good luck down there though.
 
Thanks so much. I have a coworker who is scared to go anywhere east of the zoo…..I call him Colonel Cul-de-sac and it REALLY pisses him off!

Wait. For real?
 
But more people have been leaving Portland than coming here to live over the past few years.

Now ask yourself why is that? IMO there is not one reason for that, but you would be silly to not act like some of the things like drug addicts, homeless and affected business due to that played a role in people leaving, as well as the tax situation.
Creating more housing and getting people in housing is the only proven way to address those problems long term. It's also the most cost effective way.
 
Thanks so much. I have a coworker who is scared to go anywhere east of the zoo…..I call him Colonel Cul-de-sac and it REALLY pisses him off!

I don't blame him.... the stink of patchouli only gets worse and worse the further east you go.
 
Yes that would be helpful for sure. It would help small businesses, which are needed as well.

But small businesses don't buy luxury suites. The topic was competing with other cities for multiple sports franchises. Portland could use a few more large companies for that. Not saying the city can't currently support both baseball and basketball, because they absolutely can.

But it is very competitive, and there are other cities that might be more attractive. A few questioned how SLC could beat us out, and that is how. True, they don't have Fortune 500 companies, but they do have more medium-sized companies. The city and state are considered to be business-friendly.
They're going to make more money in Portland than in a situation like Utah. Regardless of suites.

If the team leaves it will be due to lack of new arena, IMO.

I don't think it's going to happen. They aren't going anywhere.

I don't think it would be worth moving to Vegas either.
 
My wife and family’s favorite place on earth.
Perhaps it was the timing (they were filming Pirate of the Caribbean IV at the time off the north shore) but I never felt comfortable in Kauai. Felt very distinctly unwelcome and I didn’t want to bother people there any more than I had to. This was way back in 2010 so my current situation had nothing to do with it.
 
We can wait and see what Dundon does. But if he cancels Pride and then blathers everyone is welcome my community will be saying, yeah, as long as we stay closeted. There is no way cancelling Pride, or Black History Month, etc. can be seen as anything other than backtracking on support for our rights.
 
We can wait and see what Dundon does. But if he cancels Pride and then blathers everyone is welcome my community will be saying, yeah, as long as we stay closeted. There is no way cancelling Pride, or Black History Month, etc. can be seen as anything other than backtracking on support for our rights.

Yeah I don’t *have* to be a fan of this team. If it doesn’t respect me I won’t respect it.
 
I could see “fighting woke” as an excuse for pulling out of Portland in a couple of years; stop supporting anything then when the backlash hits, claim the town has turned its back on the Blazers and move them to Vegas. Seems like a reliable grift.
 
I could see “fighting woke” as an excuse for pulling out of Portland in a couple of years; stop supporting anything then when the backlash hits, claim the town has turned its back on the Blazers and move them to Vegas. Seems like a reliable grift.

I would be completely fine with that... after we win 5 championships in 6 years.
 
We should come up with all sorts of unrealistic or impractical scenarios for why we think the owner that we barely know anything about is secretly going to move the team.
I agree, it's fun! All these threads are like little creative writing prompts where I can project every fear, every frustration, all my anger and desperate sadness onto my work, which I assure you is bad only because I'm self-medicating to dull the pain. This place is amazing.
 
I agree, it's fun! All these threads are like little creative writing prompts where I can project every fear, every frustration, all my anger and desperate sadness onto my work, which I assure you is bad only because I'm self-medicating to dull the pain. This place is amazing.

As usual, not everything is about you.
 
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