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RR7 said:
Just came back from Ben Harper at Pioneer Square. Fun show. We survived our treacherous walk back to the car as well. Was so relieved.
I'm gonna brave it again tomorrow night for The Roots, but feel like I'm pushing my luck.
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Praying you got back to the happy valley safe. I heard that place is safe.
 
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sheed30 said:
Once again, what has protesting ever accomplished? What about the ones that cause damage to business and property? That’s ok to you I guess huh. Silly.

it’s a bad look how MUCH Portland does it and for the smallest dumbest reasons.
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The Boston Tea Party was our first and possibly most famous protest. But, ya know, what did that actually accomplish?
 
THE HCP said:
Praying you got back to the happy valley safe. I heard that place is safe.
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Sunnyside is such a shit road nowadays. So many people on that road drive like maniacs. It is the street I have seen the most accidents on because people aren't paying attention and slam into someone stopped at a light.

Seriously one of my least favorite places to go to in the metro area. It is sad because I used to like the area.
 
RR7 said:
The Boston Tea Party was our first and possibly most famous protest. But, ya know, what did that actually accomplish?
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We know blacks in our country have no rights, because all of the protests from the Civil Rights Movement were unsuccessful.
 
RR7 said:
We know blacks in our country have no rights, because all of the protests from the Civil Rights Movement were unsuccessful.
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I believe the Women's Suffrage movement was fairly successful as well...2 female presidential candidates made the finals! Women are judges and senators and lawyers. and it didn't happen overnight. One was even black!
 
blazerkor said:
This sentence makes no sense. I mean even if you knew how to write it wouldn't make any sense. I believe you were asking "what has protesting ever accomplished?"

I'll answer that question with a few examples from this last year. Three major universities that I know of (I'm sure there are more) divested from companies involved in supplying Israel arms because of protests on their campus. Two friends of mine got raises and went from having to pay for half of their health care premium to having the entire premium paid for by their employer the day after the workers staged a walkout for the second half of the day and stood outside their place of work with picket signs in protest.

On a macro and historic level, there would probably still be segregation in the south if it weren't for protests and those protests have a lot to do with the abolishment of a lot of other Jim Crow laws. Women's suffrage protests were a large part of what got women the right to vote. Hell you pointed out the George Floyd protests; after those the amount of police departments in the US that require body cams went through the roof.

Basically every time some group protests they are sure to accomplish one thing... they always bring attention to what they are protesting, maybe that attention is small and maybe it's big but protests get attention and sometimes attention is the only catalyst needed for change.

So again, that sentence made no sense and even if you would have used the right words it still wouldn't have.
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Sure, some protests here and there might bring some attention to it and help a real legit cause.

But 95% of them don't accomplish shit in the end. Plus, more than half of them cause damage. So then you got ones that actually do more damage than helping any cause.

Now about your first smartass comment. Well I may not know how to write, but at least I'm not like you who writes up a fucking story and a half whenever they post like yourself. I always scroll over your little mini rambles, no one has time to read all shit son.

Throw the first blow, I'll throw the haymaker if you want to go that route.
 
sheed30 said:
Once again, what has protesting ever accomplished?
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Really?

March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom (1963):
This protest, which brought together over 250,000 people, played a crucial role in pressuring the US government to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Indian independence movement led by Gandhi:
Gandhi's nonviolent protests, including the Salt Satyagraha, were instrumental in achieving India's independence from British rule.

Women's suffrage movement:
The organized marches and demonstrations of the women's suffrage movement, including the 1913 parade in Washington D.C., ultimately led to the passage of the 19th Amendment granting women the right to vote.

Stonewall Inn Riots (1969):
These riots, sparked by police raids on a gay bar, are considered a turning point in the fight for LGBTQ+ rights.

March for Our Lives (2018):
Students from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School organized this protest in response to the school shooting in Parkland, Florida, calling for stricter gun control measures.

Florida's package of reforms in 2018 included creating an extreme risk protection law, raising the minimum age to purchase firearms from dealers to 21.

Argentinian abortion legalization movement:
The "green wave" protests in Argentina played a key role in the legalization of abortion in 2020.
Indian farmers' protests (2020-2021):

These protests, which lasted for over a year, successfully resisted the deregulation of agricultural markets and corporatization of Indian agriculture.

What about the ones that cause damage to business and property? That’s ok to you I guess huh. Silly.
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Individuals cause damage. Not protests. Individuals who cause damage or harm should be held accountable. If a protest leader is encouraging people to cause damage or harm they should also be held accountable.

it’s a bad look how MUCH Portland does it and for the smallest dumbest reasons.
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Disagree.
 
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riverman said:
Locals in Hawaii say this everyday...the Haole's come here, get island fever and leave again. I'll bet people leaving Hawaii is a pretty high number...lot of people can't live long on an island without getting island fever. It's just too slow for a lot of folks who move there with illusions of island life.
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In Kauai right now. I could get used to this...
 
sheed30 said:
Sure, some protests here and there might bring some attention to it and help a real legit cause.

But 95% of them don't accomplish shit in the end. Plus, more than half of them cause damage. So then you got ones that actually do more damage than helping any cause.

Now about your first smartass comment. Well I may not know how to write, but at least I'm not like you who writes up a fucking story and a half whenever they post like yourself. I always scroll over your little mini rambles, no one has time to read all shit son.

Throw the first blow, I'll throw the haymaker if you want to go that route.
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Oh yeah that really knocked me out.

I might be long winded at times but at least I know that very little change has ever happened without some sort of protest. I think what you have a problem with is rioting and that's something that makes sense to be against. There's a difference. I'd explain it to you but then you'd complain that I typed out too many words for your tiny attention span.
 
riverman said:
Our friends in Portland all live in the city. They all love it there. Bicycle folks....one couple doesn't even own a car but rents them when needed...bought a condo downtown...other couple lives in Milwaukee very close to the bridge in a great neighborhood. We used to live in the burbs in Wilsonville.
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Once the kids are graduated I fully intend to sell my car and use public transit again. I took the bus to work for a decade before the kids came along and once they’re off to college one of them can have the car and I can go back to work by bus again. Saves me on renting a garage and gets me out walking more.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Really?

March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom (1963):
This protest, which brought together over 250,000 people, played a crucial role in pressuring the US government to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Indian independence movement led by Gandhi:
Gandhi's nonviolent protests, including the Salt Satyagraha, were instrumental in achieving India's independence from British rule.

Women's suffrage movement:
The organized marches and demonstrations of the women's suffrage movement, including the 1913 parade in Washington D.C., ultimately led to the passage of the 19th Amendment granting women the right to vote.

Stonewall Inn Riots (1969):
These riots, sparked by police raids on a gay bar, are considered a turning point in the fight for LGBTQ+ rights.

March for Our Lives (2018):
Students from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School organized this protest in response to the school shooting in Parkland, Florida, calling for stricter gun control measures.

Florida's package of reforms in 2018 included creating an extreme risk protection law, raising the minimum age to purchase firearms from dealers to 21.

Argentinian abortion legalization movement:
The "green wave" protests in Argentina played a key role in the legalization of abortion in 2020.
Indian farmers' protests (2020-2021):

These protests, which lasted for over a year, successfully resisted the deregulation of agricultural markets and corporatization of Indian agriculture.


Individuals cause damage. Not protests. Individuals who cause damage or harm should be held accountable. If a protest leader is encouraging people to cause damage or harm they should also be held accountable.



Disagree.
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Yes there is some that work, and for great causes. I was basically talking about protests in Portland as the whole topic was around Portland is a shit show comment.

Wasnt there a little protest just a few weeks ago, something about small businesses or such haha. What did that accomplish?

Portland over protests basically anything they can. That’s facts.
 
blazerkor said:
Oh yeah that really knocked me out.

I might be long winded at times but at least I know that very little change has ever happened without some sort of protest. I think what you have a problem with is rioting and that's something that makes sense to be against. There's a difference. I'd explain it to you but then you'd complain that I typed out too many words for your tiny attention span.
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You’re talking worldwide, I’m talking about Portland protests.

Plus, remember you’re normally the one to throw out some comment trying to fuck someone up out of the blue because you disagree like you just did with me. Whatever attitude you dish out you will get back.

and thanks, you saved yourself some time as I wasn’t reading no mini story from ya.
 
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THE HCP said:
Yet the value of my house continues to rise and there are new restaurants and businesses constantly opening up in our area of town? How bout you put down your google machine….leave whatever cul-du-sac you live in and venture out and see for yourself how our city is doing.
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I like the use of "cul-de-sac" here.
 
sheed30 said:
Hahha, that made me laugh legit. So wrong and missing the point.

what has protesting every accomplishment? And what about the protests that turn into shit and they cause damage to property and buildings?

Portland’s protests went on a lot longer more than any other state in the USA for the George Floyd protesting, for many days after all other states stopped…why is that huh?

years ago that shit wasn’t going in at all. Protest, people in uproar about this and that was non existent or a lot less than it was today.

Once again you completely missed the point.
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What has protesting accomplished?

Civil rights act.
Forced Nixon to de-escalate
Women's right to vote
Marriage equality
Won freedom for some ICE victims

Shall I continue?

What has staying silent won?
 
crandc said:
What has protesting accomplished?

Civil rights act.
Forced Nixon to de-escalate
Women's right to vote
Marriage equality
Won freedom for some ICE victims

Shall I continue?

What has staying silent won?
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You can continue if you want to talk about local protests which is the the meat of this topic here. I am talking about Portland protests, the ones that happen locally on a regular bases .

What about the ones that happened a couple months ago?

Portland Police Respond to Protest Activity and Safety Concerns near ICE Building

On Sunday, June 8, 2025, at around 11:40 a.m., Officers responded back to the area on a report of unwanted individuals on private property next to the ICE Building. The property owner asked the crowd to leave his property. After several attempts to educate the group that they were on private property and providing them reasonable alternative places to lawfully hold a protest, the crowd ultimately cooperated, moving to a nearby sidewalk.

No arrests were made in regard to the protest, but one person was arrested after an officer recognized her as someone who had a warrant for Assault.

Later on Sunday, June 8, 2025, at around 7:30 p.m., Central Precinct officers continued to monitor the situation as another crowd formed in the area. PPB Dialogue Officerscontacted the group, who were unwilling to engage in dialogue. At 11 p.m., some of the individuals began spray painting the building. Officers arrested two people for Criminal Mischief in the First Degree.An additional arrest was made for a person wanted for damaging North Precinct in 2024. That person was also charged with Criminal Mischief in the First Degree.

Or the protest about deportation in April in Portland against Trump?

oh look, I found another one, just from a couple weeks ago lol. ) — Hundreds of people marched through the streets of downtown Portland Saturday afternoon protesting many of the policies and actions of the Trump administration.

or the one in july: Its quite evident protests in Portland still happen regularly in 2025 and some even still cause uneasy when they do, some doing property damage and etc.

‘Good Trouble’ protests against Trump spread throughout Northwest.


 
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AldoTrapani said:
your kidding me
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No I’m serious. You ever lived in Seattle? It took me 2.5 hrs to get home from work(32 miles) for almost 3 years. The amount of traffic and dumb fucks that have moved here actually forced me onto antidepressants lol. The rain made it even worse.

I’m not gonna get into politics, which is where I feel this thread is headed. My sole reasons are the commute, the weather, and the people. Summerlin is in the western part of the Las Vegas valley. It’s not like I’m moving on the strip lol.
 
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Everything Beagle said:
Mostly because earthquake-proofing it to modern standards will cost a fucking fortune. Previous owners let it lapse. But sure it’s the protesters lol
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Nah. We jacked it up and put it on skates in 98. It's mostly up to the standards set in the 90's. Yes some retro could be done but that building ain't coming down in a 8.0 or lass. Now if we get THE BIG ONE. Anything can come down of course.
 
Last time I checked, Portland is part of USA on planet Earth. I don't see how you can separate what happens in Portland from rest of the world.

Good Trouble protests were in honor of late civil rights leader and Congressman John Lewis who said get in good trouble. You know, for voting rights and equality and democracy and all those other bad Portland values.
 
crandc said:
Eliminating Pride is saying the official position of Blazers is that we don't deserve equality
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I can understand that some might feel that way but that also might not be what it means at all. It might just mean they want to stay out of the political arena altogether and just want to allow all fans to have fun every night no matter what part of the rainbow they fall under. It's just my view but IMO the LBGT community doesn't need a special night. They should be at every game if they are fans of the teams. Why do we need to only allow them one game?
You see where I'm going with this right? Total inclusion should be the norm. Not just Pride Night.
 
kjironman1 said:
I can understand that some might feel that way but that also might not be what it means at all. It might just mean they want to stay out of the political arena altogether and just want to allow all fans to have fun every night no matter what part of the rainbow they fall under. It's just my view but IMO the LBGT community doesn't need a special night. They should be at every game if they are fans of the teams. Why do we need to only allow them one game?
You see where I'm going with this right? Total inclusion should be the norm. Not just Pride Night.
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The Blazers have a "hero of the game" where they highlight a military veteran and give them some binoculars or something. Why just military? Why aren't they honoring a teacher, or a fireman, or...
They're not only "allowed" one game. It's that they're recognized and called to the front for one game. Cheered and celebrated instead of pushed to the back like they usually are in society at large.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
Sunnyside is such a shit road nowadays. So many people on that road drive like maniacs. It is the street I have seen the most accidents on because people aren't paying attention and slam into someone stopped at a light.

Seriously one of my least favorite places to go to in the metro area. It is sad because I used to like the area.
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I have a client who lives close to Sunnyside, and I purposely avoid going up it to get to his house. Not only because I don't want to drive by the hospital my dad basically died at (same reason why I avoid Sunnybrook east of 205), but holy shit, no one knows how to drive up it. It's like people think it's a country road (where it's a little easier to speed/be reckless).
 
THE HCP said:
What the fuck is a happy valley?
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It's actually where a lot of Portlanders are leaving to. One of my houses is there and the draw is Clackamas county taxes, and still close enough to be in Portland when you need to be. Vancouver has some of the same draw. Problem with Vancouver is you will pay more to live there on your day to day expenses and annual fees type stuff. I know you are just having fun here but there is a valid point for those being burdened by the Multnomah county and Portland city taxes and overall cost of living.

I for one do not buy into the "Portland is a shithole" mantra. We need to keep cleaning it up and making it the best place in the country to live. That is costing money. I hope city leaders continue to do the work to clean it up.
 
RR7 said:
The Blazers have a "hero of the game" where they highlight a military veteran and give them some binoculars or something. Why just military? Why aren't they honoring a teacher, or a fireman, or...
They're not only "allowed" one game. It's that they're recognized and called to the front for one game. Cheered and celebrated instead of pushed to the back like they usually are in society at large.
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Pretty cool idea. I like the Teacher and Firefighter idea. Maybe even add police because a bunch of them are getting a real bad rap. There are some really good cops out there.
 
kjironman1 said:
It's actually where a lot of Portlanders are leaving to. One of my houses is there and the draw is Clackamas county taxes, and still close enough to be in Portland when you need to be. Vancouver has some of the same draw. Problem with Vancouver is you will pay more to live there on your day to day expenses and annual fees type stuff. I know you are just having fun here but there is a valid point for those being burdened by the Multnomah county and Portland city taxes and overall cost of living.

I for one do not buy into the "Portland is a shithole" mantra. We need to keep cleaning it up and making it the best place in the country to live. That is costing money. I hope city leaders continue to do the work to clean it up.
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never once was it said Portland is a shithole...It was that it's a "shit show", aka what goes on there and had be going on there and what's it become compared to what it use to be imo.
 
sheed30 said:
how about this, you can go and watch this video on youtube if you like.

better yet, instead of wasting time, how about you guys jus go down and read about 10-15 comments about people and their thoughts on Portland that lived there and left or still currently live there...

some comments include :

I’m a lifelong Oregonian, been in Portland for 21 years. We’re prepping to sell our house this summer, the city is a case study of mental illness. The energy is gone, was downtown yesterday, complete shell of what it was. This inspite of a new Ritz Carlton, SoHo House, new airport, WNBA coming, possible MLB team… State leadership is killing Oregon, it’s not just Portland

I moved from Utah to Oregon the summer before I started high school and instantly fell in love with it. The greenery was everywhere, the water was clean and tasted amazing, and the air was fresh. I loved it so much that even when my family moved back to Utah, I stayed in Portland. I loved the people and the culture. Portland was incredible. I would skate through the city all day and spend my nights at the waterfront. I never wanted to leave. That changed about ten years ago. The homeless population started becoming more erratic and dangerous. The violence got worse. There were shootings and stabbings, things I had never seen before. Two years ago, I finally said enough and decided to leave. It’s sad to say, but I am so much happier now. Portland feels lost, and I truly believe progressivism is the reason why.

23:08 This is exactly correct. I've lived here 48 years and it's absolutely impossible to have objective solutions based conversation with anyone here because of the ideologically captured culture. It's completely irrational. Portland and Multnomah county have become politically corrupt to the point of civic paralysis.

Portland is one of those situations where you’re trying to please everyone, you please no one.
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not one person addressed this. Look at the comments of people and what they think of Portland. Someone else here said Happy Valley is shit lmao. I guess maybe if you live in West Linn or one of those place you would think Happy Valley is shit. and if you think Happy Valley is shit, then I would love to know what you think about other lesser parts of Portland.

Regardless, the majority of people's opinion right now about Portland is not good, from headlines, about the homeless, drug addicts and protests and their own past experiences in Portland from what it use to be.
 
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