Politics NFL and Trump

[dviss1]

Free speech only applies to certain people these days. If you are google memo guy, you are fucked because your ideas don't align with the typical left wing narrative. You are fired. If you are a local bakery and refuse to bake a cake for a gay couple, well fuck that you aren't allowed, that bakery got a lawsuit put on them and the gay couple won. Or what about the local girls who came back from mexico and made mexican food only to be harassed to the point they had to close down their successful little business. Now all of a sudden the left wing people are for free speech with this football shit. I am with it too but in those examples I just named, nobody stood up for them. It's because something else is going on in this country. Something sick. This super left wing weird way of thinking, fucking fairy tale land

The bakery thing didn't have anything to do with free speech. They claimed that their religious rights were being infringed upon.

Just like exercising your free speech is legal, it is also legal for a private entity to fire you for making their company look bad.

 

[barfo]

Free speech only applies to certain people these days. If you are google memo guy, you are fucked because your ideas don't align with the typical left wing narrative. You are fired. If you are a local bakery and refuse to bake a cake for a gay couple, well fuck that you aren't allowed, that bakery got a lawsuit put on them and the gay couple won. Or what about the local girls who came back from mexico and made mexican food only to be harassed to the point they had to close down their successful little business. Now all of a sudden the left wing people are for free speech with this football shit. I am with it too but in those examples I just named, nobody stood up for them.

Well, then why don't you get off your ass and stand up for them? It could be your raison d'être. You could be a warrior for social justice.

It's because something else is going on in this country. Something sick. This super left wing weird way of thinking, fucking fairy tale land

Sounds like a job for Cippy The Social Justice Warrior! Flash the virtue signal to alert him!

barfo

 

[THE HCP]

Free speech only applies to certain people these days. If you are google memo guy, you are fucked because your ideas don't align with the typical left wing narrative. You are fired. If you are a local bakery and refuse to bake a cake for a gay couple, well fuck that you aren't allowed, that bakery got a lawsuit put on them and the gay couple won. Or what about the local girls who came back from mexico and made mexican food only to be harassed to the point they had to close down their successful little business. Now all of a sudden the left wing people are for free speech with this football shit. I am with it too but in those examples I just named, nobody stood up for them. It's because something else is going on in this country. Something sick. This super left wing weird way of thinking, fucking fairy tale land

You got a lot going on up there. You should sign up and serve your country.

 

[Cippy91]

You got a lot going on up there. You should sign up and serve your country.

Yeah im gonna go be a bullet sponge for the rich people that run this country, make them richer

 

[Cippy91]

Well, then why don't you get off your ass and stand up for them? It could be your raison d'être. You could be a warrior for social justice.



Sounds like a job for Cippy The Social Justice Warrior! Flash the virtue signal to alert him!

barfo

I stand up for them all the time on here then get accused of being alt right by delusional people like yourself.

 

[Cippy91]

The bakery thing didn't have anything to do with free speech. They claimed that their religious rights were being infringed upon.

Just like exercising your free speech is legal, it is also legal for a private entity to fire you for making their company look bad.

Well it was their personal business, they have the right to do what they did whether right or wrong. It's free speech in a way. They stood for something they believed in

 

[Cippy91]

The guy he replaced in San Francisco has a job. This is why you don't make sense when you post.

Yeah because that guy was probably better than him. Guys like Colin come and go all the time in the league, it had nothing to do with what he believed in.

 

[dviss1]

Yeah because that guy was probably better than him. Guys like Colin come and go all the time in the league, it had nothing to do with what he believed in.

When you say "that guy" it's like you don't know who he was. Blaine Gabbert is not better than Colin Kaepernick.

 

[Cippy91]

When you say "that guy" it's like you don't know who he was. Blaine Gabbert is not better than Colin Kaepernick.

That's your personal opinion. If social issues really keeps these guys out then why is there a bunch of wife beaters still in the league? it's absurd to think like that. Like I said guys come and go in the league. Has nothing to do with race or what somebody stands for. If your argument made any sense, any guy that has kneeled would be replaced. Hasn't and won't happen

 

[Cippy91]

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Imagine this happening in another country.

 

[Denny Crane]

We'll have the nurses play it in the day room for you when it's jello day.

In 20 years, sure.

 

[Denny Crane]

About that...

Have a tissue.

Can't believe they lost because they're awful?

 

[dviss1]

@SlyPokerDog I know for whatever reason you don't like Trevor Noah, but every bit of this is true:

 

[dviss1]

Have a tissue.

Can't believe they lost because they're awful?

No, the voter ID law is racist.

 

[dviss1]

That's your personal opinion. If social issues really keeps these guys out then why is there a bunch of wife beaters still in the league? it's absurd to think like that. Like I said guys come and go in the league. Has nothing to do with race or what somebody stands for. If your argument made any sense, any guy that has kneeled would be replaced. Hasn't and won't happen

You just underscored the hypocrisy of the NFL. And if you do your research you'll realize that the wife beater in the NFL that is still there is white. See the Seahawks kicker. Ray Rice still doesn't have a job so what are you talking about?

 

[dviss1]

When y'all say black athletes who make millions of dollars should be grateful, who should they be grateful to?

It seems in this country when white people make a lot of money that they worked hard for it but when black people make a lot of money they should be grateful for it... Grateful to who?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

When y'all say black athletes who make millions of dollars should be grateful, who should they be grateful to?

It seems in this country when white people make a lot of money that they worked hard for it but when black people make a lot of money they should be grateful for it... Grateful to who?

Not to detract from your question, but...who said that?

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

When y'all say black athletes who make millions of dollars should be grateful, who should they be grateful to?

It seems in this country when white people make a lot of money that they worked hard for it but when black people make a lot of money they should be grateful for it... Grateful to who?

I think the only white people who think millionaire white guys just worked hard are the out of touch millionaire white guys. 99 Percent of us think they got lucky or knew someone or cheated someone to get it. Or all of the above.

I've said it before, if Trump were raised by a single mom in a single wide trailer in Alabama he wouldn't be President.

 

[crandc]

Trump, of course, is profoundly stupid. The anthem protests were fading out. Many players felt they had made their point and were ready to move on. But Trump figured it would be red meat for his base to scream obscenities and call for firing uppity black men. And since he is too stupid to foresee the results of his actions, and since he always responds to criticism of infantile behavior by being even more infantile, guess what happens? Taking a knee has now spread throughout the NFL, other sports, and other venues. Including the students and teachers at Georgetown who were barred from Jefferson Beauregaard Sessions III talk on "free speech" on campus because they only wanted a friendly audience.

 

[Rhal]

You just underscored the hypocrisy of the NFL. And if you do your research you'll realize that the wife beater in the NFL that is still there is white. See the Seahawks kicker. Ray Rice still doesn't have a job so what are you talking about?

Ray Rice is a bad example because he had fallen off greatly before the video of him beating his now wife was released. The NFL has shown that they dont' care what you did as long as you are still talented you can get a shot as long as you dont' come with a media nightmare that isn't worth your talent. There are tons of Women beaters still in the NFL, both white and black, and that isn't something that is going to change when you can assault someone on video and still get taken in the first or second round.

 

[e_blazer]

 

[dviss1]

Not to detract from your question, but...who said that?

Go back and look at the Kaepernick thread.

 

[dviss1]

Ray Rice is a bad example because he had fallen off greatly before the video of him beating his now wife was released. The NFL has shown that they dont' care what you did as long as you are still talented you can get a shot as long as you dont' come with a media nightmare that isn't worth your talent. There are tons of Women beaters still in the NFL, both white and black, and that isn't something that is going to change when you can assault someone on video and still get taken in the first or second round.

Name one black one.

 

[dviss1]

I think the only white people who think millionaire white guys just worked hard are the out of touch millionaire white guys. 99 Percent of us think they got lucky or knew someone or cheated someone to get it. Or all of the above.

I've said it before, if Trump were raised by a single mom in a single wide trailer in Alabama he wouldn't be President.

This is not the prevailing thought. It's why Drumpf is president in the first place. MFs actually believe he's good at business...

 

[Denny Crane]

No, the voter ID law is racist.

It's been a democratic state for years. Elected Russ Feingold over and over, even though he didn't raise money. And yet, the alleged marginalization of a fraction of the vote was enough to shift the election to Trump?

I don't think so.

If anything, Trump should have been thumped in that state, by 20 points.

I recognize the failed leadership there making excuses for their incompetence. We all should and move on.

 

[Denny Crane]

It's the best we have, for now. I would expect the networks and 24/7 news channels have also run polls, but don't want to publicize similar results.

http://remingtonresearchgroup.com/surveys/NFL_9-25-17.pdf

 

[dviss1]

Trump, of course, is profoundly stupid. The anthem protests were fading out. Many players felt they had made their point and were ready to move on. But Trump figured it would be red meat for his base to scream obscenities and call for firing uppity black men. And since he is too stupid to foresee the results of his actions, and since he always responds to criticism of infantile behavior by being even more infantile, guess what happens? Taking a knee has now spread throughout the NFL, other sports, and other venues. Including the students and teachers at Georgetown who were barred from Jefferson Beauregaard Sessions III talk on "free speech" on campus because they only wanted a friendly audience.

Why people can't understand this I don't know...

 

[dviss1]

It's been a democratic state for years. Elected Russ Feingold over and over, even though he didn't raise money. And yet, the alleged marginalization of a fraction of the vote was enough to shift the election to Trump?

I don't think so.

If anything, Trump should have been thumped in that state, by 20 points.

I recognize the failed leadership there making excuses for their incompetence. We all should and move on.

Oh She got pounded in WIS. No argument there.

I'm just talking voter ID laws in general.

 

[dviss1]

It's the best we have, for now. I would expect the networks and 24/7 news channels have also run polls, but don't want to publicize similar results.

http://remingtonresearchgroup.com/surveys/NFL_9-25-17.pdf

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From your favorite station. I'm not so ready to call CNN "fake news".

Trump says NFL ratings are 'way down.' That's not completely true

President Trump tweeted Tuesday morning that they NFL ratings "are way down." The numbers for the league's most recent games say otherwise.
The overall overnight ratings for the NFL's week 3 games were up 3% compared to the same week last year, according to Nielsen data.

That increase includes a "Monday Night Football" game between the Dallas Cowboys and the Arizona Cardinals that nabbed a 9.3 overnight rating for ESPN, up a whopping 63% over last year's New Orleans Saints and Atlanta Falcons game, which brought in a 5.7. (To come up with overnight ratings, Nielsen takes the percentage of households watching in 56 U.S. markets and comes up with an overnight average -- so a 9.3 means that 9.3% of households in those 56 markets tuned into the game on ESPN on Monday night.)

Now, it should be noted that those numbers come with two major asterisks.

The first is that the Cowboys are arguably the most popular and watched team in the league, and almost any game featuring them is likely to do better than almost any other.

The second is that the overnight ratings for this week's Monday night game basically had to go up compared to last year's, which was competing with the first presidential debate between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, and as a result brought in the program's lowest viewership in at least the past 25 years.

Trump has been at war with the NFL over the past few days beginning with a firestorm he started on Friday night when he went after the league and attacked players who have been kneeling or sitting during the national anthem to draw attention to social justice issues.

On Tuesday morning, Trump tweeted that "Ratings for NFL football are way down except before game starts, when people tune in to see whether or not our country will be disrespected!"

If Trump was talking about NFL ratings generally, and not this week, he was at least partially right in two ways. The NFL's ratings have fallen over the past two years, though that has happened for a number of reasons not related to the anthem protests, and the overnight ratings for the pregame shows on Sunday were way up -- though that was likely more about people tuning in to see discussion about the issue than about watching the anthem ceremonies themselves.