Nuggets shopping Nurkic

[Trackjack]

Serious question, are you drunk?

No I have seen him play against Towns and Cousins and Whiteside he had great games against each of them. He held his own on the defense side. Everyone has his opinion and I got mind. He is strong kid with alot of off ense skills and he just learning the defense side. No he not Whiteside on block shots. But he gets his share a little over a block a game. He gets as many blocks per game as cousin. He shoots better Fg percent than cousins. Cousin right now get more rebounds per game.

 

[SheedSoNasty]

A month ago seems like people were creaming their jeans to get this dude. What happened?

 

[Nate]

No I have seen him play against Towns and Cousins and Whiteside he had great games against each of them. He held his own on the defense side. Everyone has his opinion and I got mind. He is strong kid with alot of off ense skills and he just learning the defense side. No he not Whiteside on block shots. But he gets his share a little over a block a game. He gets as many blocks per game as cousin. He shoots better Fg percent than cousins. Cousin right now get more rebounds per game.

I think he was asking because of your grammar. Not your opinion.

 

[blue9]

A month ago seems like people were creaming their jeans to get this dude. What happened?

The realization that there isn't a trade out there that will get us to the 2nd round?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

A month ago seems like people were creaming their jeans to get this dude. What happened?

It takes some of us a while to reload at our ages.

 

[Scalma]

A month ago seems like people were creaming their jeans to get this dude. What happened?

Still here.

 

[Scalma]

Here I asked kyler about our boi

 

[Denny Crane]

I don't see what we have to trade Denver that they would want to give up Nurkic.

They already have a ton of cap space, so Ezeli wouldn't be of interest. They do have the ability to take on one of our bigger contracts.

Crabbe isn't enough of an upgrade over Gary Harris for them. Mo wouldn't fit their needs.

 

[Scalma]

I don't see what we have to trade Denver that they would want to give up Nurkic.

They already have a ton of cap space, so Ezeli wouldn't be of interest. They do have the ability to take on one of our bigger contracts.

Crabbe isn't enough of an upgrade over Gary Harris for them. Mo wouldn't fit their needs.

Vonleh and Davis. Vonleh gives them a young PF to develop, something they don't have. Davis replaces Nurkic, and gives them someone who knows and accepts his role. We could even throw in clevelands pick.

 

[Denny Crane]

Vonleh and Davis. Vonleh gives them a young PF to develop, something they don't have. Davis replaces Nurkic, and gives them someone who knows and accepts his role. We could even throw in clevelands pick.

I think that would be the weakest offer among many they'll get.

They have a 3 man F rotation that's already pretty good. They start Gallinari and Chandler at F and have Faried as backup.

If anything, they may be asking too much so nobody deals with them.

 

[Scalma]

I think that would be the weakest offer among many they'll get.

They have a 3 man F rotation that's already pretty good. They start Gallinari and Chandler at F and have Faried as backup.

If anything, they may be asking too much so nobody deals with them.

There are only so many teams that need a center. It's a buyers market

 

[Denny Crane]

There are only so many teams that need a center. It's a buyers market

Phoenix needs a C. Other teams where he'd start or get a lot of PT:

Charlotte
Indy
Chicago
Milwaukee
San Antonio
Houston
L*kers
Dallas

9 of 30 teams.

Sacramento might use him at C and move Boogie to PF, too.

 

[Scalma]

Phoenix needs a C. Other teams where he'd start or get a lot of PT:

Charlotte
Indy
Chicago
Milwaukee
San Antonio
Houston
L*kers
Dallas

9 of 30 teams.

Sacramento might use him at C and move Boogie to PF, too.

Phoenix has Len and the last time I checked they still have Chandler as well, who they would get rid of to open up more time for Len,so no, they don't need a center.

Charlotte ok

Indy has Myles Turner and Al Jefferson, and Thaddeus Young at PF

Chicago has Robin Lopez

Milwaukee has Henson and Monroe, nevermind Plumlee who they're paying a nice amount of money to

San Antonio would never trade for Nurkic, they already have one post player that requires the ball in Aldridge. Plus they have nothing to trade anyway.

Houston's style doesn't fit Nurkic either, plus they're set with Capela who fits perfect.

Lakers ok, but they're paying Mozgov 70m

Dallas ok

 

[Denny Crane]

Nurkic is a cheap upgrade for all those teams.

 

[Blazinaway]

add Boston and they have loys of assets ,agree on the other pts

 

[Blazinaway]

Nurkic is a cheap upgrade for all those teams.

define "cheap", I don't know what your thoughts are on cheap in this case, I am guessing Denver would want and likely get a mid rd first (13-17?). I think we could offer that and Ed Davis or Vonleh and that might work

 

[Denny Crane]

define "cheap", I don't know what your thoughts are on cheap in this case, I am guessing Denver would want and likely get a mid rd first (13-17?). I think we could offer that and Ed Davis or Vonleh and that might work

$70M for Mozgov + ~$2M for Nurkic means they're paying $72M for a much better player nstead of $70M for meh.

 

[Scalma]

$70M for Mozgov + ~$2M for Nurkic means they're paying $72M for a much better player nstead of $70M for meh.

Nurkic might be cheap salary wise, but that's also why Denver could ask for more than he's really worth because in reality his play is not worth Vonleh and a first.

 

[Stevenson]

Touche Pup! Nice call.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

For those of you concerned about paying the LT, a Plums for Nurkic deal would make next year's roster construction a lot easier.

Not sure I'm happy with Denny being the guy our GM listens to...

 

[BrianFromWA]

Not sure I'm happy with Denny being the guy our GM listens to...

As long as I'm the guy Denny listens to I'm ok with it.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I'd be shocked with Nurkic cost that much. I'd even be surprised if he cost a 1st and Noah.

Vonleh and Davis. Vonleh gives them a young PF to develop, something they don't have. Davis replaces Nurkic, and gives them someone who knows and accepts his role. We could even throw in clevelands pick.

define "cheap", I don't know what your thoughts are on cheap in this case, I am guessing Denver would want and likely get a mid rd first (13-17?). I think we could offer that and Ed Davis or Vonleh and that might work

I think we gave up less than most of us were even thinking would/could happen.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

I think we gave up less than most of us were even thinking would/could happen.

To be fair, it is a risk by Denver, landing a player in the last year of his contract who could easily walk.

 

[Orion Bailey]

To be fair, it is a risk by Denver, landing a player in the last year of his contract who could easily walk.

That would be best case scenario. He walks all the way over to the East. Maybe comes off the bench and gets a ring with Lebron.. no, they don't have money. But yeah.

What I DON'T want to see is Him and Thrill mesh and become a Blazer Blockade.

At this time, though. NO rocked this deal. No two ways about it.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

That would be best case scenario. He walks all the way over to the East. Maybe comes off the bench and gets a ring with Lebron.. no, they don't have money. But yeah.

What I DON'T want to see is Him and Thrill mesh and become a Blazer Blockade.

At this time, though. NO rocked this deal. No two ways about it.

Honestly, I don't understand this deal from Denver's POV. Plums naturally sees himself as a starting center, so do I and others. Why would he sign an extension that makes him a backup when he could probably get similar $$$ to start?

 

[Nate]

Honestly, I don't understand this deal from Denver's POV. Plums naturally sees himself as a starting center, so do I and others. Why would he sign an extension that makes him a backup when he could probably get similar $$$ to start?

I'm thinking that Denver is planning on starting them both.

 

[H.C.]

Honestly, I don't understand this deal from Denver's POV. Plums naturally sees himself as a starting center, so do I and others. Why would he sign an extension that makes him a backup when he could probably get similar $$$ to start?

Athletic undersized bigs who we can overpay for - Denver's Pov.
Hickson/Faried/Plumlee.. Heck can even go to Birdman too.
They have a couple here or there that aren't such as Nene, Jokic. But generally they like undersized bigs.
Betting that teams won't put a huge offer on the table with his limitations.
It's a bet they'll lose but I guess they deemed it worth the gamble.

 

[Minstrel]

Athletic undersized bigs who we can overpay for - Denver's Pov.
Hickson/Faried/Plumlee.. Heck can even go to Birdman too.

Plumlee is 6'11'' and 245. He's not the biggest man in the NBA, but he's hardly "undersized." Plumlee would have fit fine as a center in any era.

Hickson was 6'9'' and Faried was 6'8''. Not particularly comparable.

 

[H.C.]

Plumlee is 6'11'' and 245. He's not the biggest man in the NBA, but he's hardly "undersized." Plumlee would have fit fine as a center in any era.

Hickson was 6'9'' and Faried was 6'8''. Not particularly comparable.

Point stands ~
Oh come on... I've seen you post, you know better than this.
Plumlee might be 6"11, but he doesn't play like it. Plays just as big as Hickson, Faried, Birdman.
Theres a reason why people want to move him to PF instead of Center, when 6"11 is plenty big enough to play Center in the league.
Yet he Plumlee has shown over 2 years in Portland he's undersized if asked to play Center.
When a player behind you in the Depth chart and gets a ton of DNPCDs, is a better post defender than you are and is listed at
Listed height 7 ft 1 in (2.16 m) Listed weight 245 lb (111 kg) I'd say your undersized.

Edit - or at the very least I'd say you're playing smaller than you really are.

 

[Minstrel]

Point stands ~
Oh come on... I've seen you post, you know better than this.
Plumlee might be 6"11, but he doesn't play like it. Plays just as big as Hickson, Faried, Birdman.
Theres a reason why people want to move him to PF instead of Center, when 6"11 is plenty big enough to play Center in the league.
Yet he Plumlee has shown over 2 years in Portland he's undersized if asked to play Center.
When a player behind you in the Depth chart and gets a ton of DNPCDs, is a better post defender than you are and is listed at
Listed height 7 ft 1 in (2.16 m) Listed weight 245 lb (111 kg) I'd say your undersized.

Edit - or at the very least I'd say you're playing smaller than you really are.

What you're saying is that he's "soft" not that he's undersized. I don't really agree with him being soft--he's a decent rebounder and I think he sticks his nose in to defend, he's just not that great of a defender.