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me watching @BonesJones and @Gronk Brady arguing...

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Gronk Brady said:
Let me get this straight... you think DeAndre Jordan, who leads the league in rebounding and fg % this year, and was all nba first team 2 seasons ago is over the hill at 29... but you want to give up a 1st rd pick for undersized 32 year old Wes Matthews who gets paid more than Turner.... hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!
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I gave you a bunch of stats which prove that DeAndre is declining, and you had no response. Now do you want to participate in logical argument instead of acting like a douche? Because I'm not going to entertain both.
 
BonesJones said:
We don't have to retrade him, I'd rather keep him for his last year and solve our tax issues in other ways. Keep him for his last year as an upgrade to our rotation which would make us much better. However, if we had to, we could retrade him and likely receive a 2nd round pick or two. That would essentially be the same as trading Turner and a 1st now and getting back a one or two second round picks. How is that a bad option? You wouldn't do that?
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I would not give up a 1st for Matthews. No. They are asking for a 1st for him and they haven't gotten it (and won't imo) yet. As I said, a 2nd sure.
 
KeepOnRollin said:
I would not give up a 1st for Matthews. No. They are asking for a 1st for him and they haven't gotten it (and won't imo) yet. As I said, a 2nd sure.
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I understand why not, I believe we'd gain more flexibility and more of an upgrade than you or Gronk does. Thinking about it harder, I'd probably want their 2nd (which is around 33 right now). Moving down 13 picks in the draft to swap those two out is definitely worth it.

Still no way I'd ever want to even swap Nurkic for DeAndre straight up. That shits ridiculous.
 
BonesJones said:
I understand why not, I believe we'd gain more flexibility and more of an upgrade than you or Gronk does. Thinking about it harder, I'd probably want their 2nd (which is around 33 right now). Moving down 13 picks in the draft to swap those two out is definitely worth it.

Still no way I'd ever want to even swap Nurkic for DeAndre straight up. That shits ridiculous.
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Agree with you on DeAndre part.
 
KeepOnRollin said:
Agree with you on DeAndre part.
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That's what I don't understand. I understand not wanting to do that Matthews deal and we can have a discussion about it. But this man has some nerve. I've been polite to this dude given how rude he's been.
 
BonesJones said:
This dude wants to give up Nurkic AND picks for DeAndre, who's expiring, declining, and will command $25M over 3 years at least. And then he tries to act like his opinion is superior. LMAO.
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in all honesty, I found it hilarious that you two are arguing about whos right when youre both wrong, both trades proposed by two of you are bad... fuck it, not even SAC would do any of those deals
 
Mr. Robot said:
in all honesty, I found it hilarious that you two are arguing about whos right when youre both wrong, both trades proposed by two of you are bad... fuck it, not even SAC would do any of those deals
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Lmao. Which would you rather do?
 
blue9 said:
No it won't. The only thing that could help the fast break is a new coach or a new PG...and it might take both in order for us to be successful on the break.
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A new coach. Dame was great in transition in college. He can run. We can run. IMHO it's all coaching.
 
Mediocre Man said:
So was Oden, Bowie, etc
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Oden and Bowie were both 7 footers. Parker is 6’8 and much lighter. If Shaun Livingston can come back from a torn ACL, MCL, meniscus, and dislocated patella then Parker can come back from two ACL surgeries in 3 years. People forget Westbrook has had 3 surgeries on the same knee.
 
I’m coming around on the idea of trading our pick, but only if it’s for an upgrade, not getting rid of a contract.

We need a small forward that can shoot so bad. It would open so many things up. I don’t want to break this team up without getting a chance to see that.

So our pick should be shopped.
 
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Plus our first.

Evidently Orlando isn’t sold on Payton so Napier could be of interest. They also get a look at Vonleh. Aminu fits the type of athletes their front office looks for and is on a tradeable contract if they wanted to move him. So for Orlando it’s a minimum commitment financially.

We get Gordon and dump Afflalo. Mack can replace Napier. Financially, Aminu, Vonleh and Napier should combine to make about what Gordon will get in FA.

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Scalma said:
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Plus our first.

Evidently Orlando isn’t sold on Payton so Napier could be of interest. They also get a look at Vonleh. Aminu fits the type of athletes their front office looks for and is on a tradeable contract if they wanted to move him. So for Orlando it’s a minimum commitment financially.

We get Gordon and dump Afflalo. Mack can replace Napier. Financially, Aminu, Vonleh and Napier should combine to make about what Gordon will get in FA.

Dame
CJ
Turner
Gordon
Nurkic
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This one belongs here: http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/crazy-trade-ideas.323880/
 
Scalma said:
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Plus our first.

Evidently Orlando isn’t sold on Payton so Napier could be of interest. They also get a look at Vonleh. Aminu fits the type of athletes their front office looks for and is on a tradeable contract if they wanted to move him. So for Orlando it’s a minimum commitment financially.

We get Gordon and dump Afflalo. Mack can replace Napier. Financially, Aminu, Vonleh and Napier should combine to make about what Gordon will get in FA.

Dame
CJ
Turner
Gordon
Nurkic
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I don't think that's enough but I'd do it. I'm more interested in Napier, Vonleh, Turner, and a pick for Fournier and Simmons.
 
Scalma said:
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Plus our first.

Evidently Orlando isn’t sold on Payton so Napier could be of interest. They also get a look at Vonleh. Aminu fits the type of athletes their front office looks for and is on a tradeable contract if they wanted to move him. So for Orlando it’s a minimum commitment financially.

We get Gordon and dump Afflalo. Mack can replace Napier. Financially, Aminu, Vonleh and Napier should combine to make about what Gordon will get in FA.

Dame
CJ
Turner
Gordon
Nurkic
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Why is it that the perception of Gordon has changed so dramatically in a years time? Last year he was considered one of the best young players in the league and now all of a sudden the Magic want to move him? Is he just having a down year or has he really regressed that bad? I don’t get it, probably because I never watch Magic games.
 
AFully22 said:
Why is it that the perception of Gordon has changed so dramatically in a years time? Last year he was considered one of the best young players in the league and now all of a sudden the Magic want to move him? Is he just having a down year or has he really regressed that bad? I don’t get it, probably because I never watch Magic games.
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Stats-wise he is having way better year than last year. I think they just don't want to pay him max. We shouldn't either though.
 
AFully22 said:
Why is it that the perception of Gordon has changed so dramatically in a years time? Last year he was considered one of the best young players in the league and now all of a sudden the Magic want to move him? Is he just having a down year or has he really regressed that bad? I don’t get it, probably because I never watch Magic games.
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Imo if Gordon is the best, or second best player on your team, you’re probably not very good. That’s not really a knock on him, he’s just not a franchise player imo. He’s relatively inefficient offensively and his stats are inflated because he’s on a shitty team. He started off this year hot but has come back to earth. His efficiency should improve if he’s given less responsibility. He has limitations that’d be masked playing with Dame and CJ. But on the other hand he’d also mask their defensive deficiencies. He’d be a great fit.
 
BonesJones said:
I don't think that's enough but I'd do it. I'm more interested in Napier, Vonleh, Turner, and a pick for Fournier and Simmons.
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I’d do that too but I don’t want to accidentally google Fournier on a drunk night.
 
KeepOnRollin said:
Stats-wise he is having way better year than last year. I think they just don't want to pay him max. We shouldn't either though.
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Because the Magic should really be trying to create space for all those free agents that will want to sign there lol. Our cap situation is so bad as is we’re going to have to get even deeper into the tax if we want to improve at all. Either by trading for impending RFA or signing already highly paid players because our assets in return are all highly paid anyways. I don’t see any other options.
 
I really think there’s gotta be a three way deal between Milwaukee, LAC, and Portland that makes a lot of sense. I’m too drunk to figure it out now tho.
 
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