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Sarni said:
The only problem I have with Randle is he can't shoot threes. I don't think it's an issue but I suspect our front office might.
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So we get a SF who can shoot. Randle is a guy you won't want coming at you so most defenders don't sag far off of him. Give him space and he'll slice you up.
 
BonesJones said:
Would you do Leonard and a 1st for Bradley?
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Green has a player option for next season, Leonard has 2 years remaining. Green is easily playable. Leonard...

These two offers are very very different, and often lead to fans pissed at the deadline that WE didn't do a deal that another team did, as if they were similar assets.
 
Chris Craig said:
Hell yes
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Hell NO.

Bradley will be a UFA in the summer. And there is no way we pay him the 8 figure salary he would want as our third guard, so he'd definitely be a rental. I'd rather keep our pick.

Randle and Hood are RFAs and fill positional (and skill) needs for our team. I have no hesitation in giving up our picks for them. Bradely for a 25 game rental? No thank you.
 
BonesJones said:
So we get a SF who can shoot. Randle is a guy you won't want coming at you so most defenders don't sag far off of him. Give him space and he'll slice you up.
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I can see us trying to acquire Randle for sure, even if it means giving up Davis.
 
KeepOnRollin said:
DEN willing to give up a 1st for someone to take Faried. Now maybe we could get them to take one of our shit contracts but not give us a first (and at least we aren't giving up a first either to get rid of a albatross).

Leonard and Layman for Faried works.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yajlkgxy
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I assume they want to give up 1st in order to shed Faried's salary, not take someone who is even worse, even if that's without the terrible deal. They'd need to get expirings from us - for example Napier and Davis?
 
I can already picture Neil’s phone interview at 12:05 when he talks about “asset retention” or whatever other buzzwords he has lined up and I want to vomit.

But I also don’t want to make a stupid trade.

It’s almost a lose lose situation. The only surprise would be if he did something that actually improved the roster.
 
lamlor said:
Adrian Wojnarowski
Indiana has been aggressive in offering its salary space to extract a first-round pick for absorbing a bad contract, league sources tell ESPN. Pacers would send Al Jefferson back in those deals.

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May be Portlands only chance at ridding themselves of a bad contract.
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How exciting!
 
Sarni said:
I assume they want to give up 1st in order to shed Faried's salary, not take someone who is even worse, even if that's without the terrible deal. They'd need to get expirings from us - for example Napier and Davis?
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IF we can't move Vonleh or Leonard or Harkless or Turner then you might have to consider this because you can't pay Napier and Davis this summer in that case anyways. I still would probably turn it down since Napier and Davis are two guys who I think SHOULD be on our team next year (as in they bring value and will continue compared to their contract - both now and going forward). I would however send Noah with Leonard instead if they were interested. That gets them a little savings going forward.
 
KeepOnRollin said:
These Several teams would be the top 2 teams from the West and the top 3 teams from the east. They can afford to wait and get someone for free (because players want to go ring-chasing).
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This system is so broken.

TBpup said:
...of which Portland is unable to participate due to being in the Lux Tax. So much fun what Neil has done to this roster.
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Neil fucked us over. The summer of 16 was a disaster. The lack of cap smoothing was such poor foresight by both the teams' front offices and the players association. GS made out like bandits because of this and teams like ours get royally screwed over.
 
yuyuza1 said:
This system is so broken.


Neil fucked us over. The summer of 16 was a disaster. The lack of cap smoothing was such poor foresight by both the teams' front offices and the players association. GS made out like bandits because of this and teams like ours get royally screwed over.
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What is so broken about the system? Good teams plan ahead and can take advantage of it.

Teams with less foresight (like Portland) end up making stupid decisions, which have a compounding effect.

That's the way the world operates.... People (or teams) that do stuff better than their piers are the ones who succeed.
 
TBpup said:
...of which Portland is unable to participate due to being in the Lux Tax. So much fun what Neil has done to this roster.
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That's not true as we still have the MLE as well as the approximately 13 mil trade exception that could be used. All depends on what PA will allow as it would cost some luxury tax money.
 
tester551 said:
What is so broken about the system? Good teams plan ahead and can take advantage of it.

Teams with less foresight (like Portland) end up making stupid decisions, which have a compounding effect.

That's the way the world operates.... People (or teams) that do stuff better than their piers are the ones who succeed.
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The rich get richer. Cavs didn't plan shit. They poorly managed their cap and are held together by strings (partly because of Lebron), but they always get guys like Bogut/Deron/etc off waivers. Raptors are in a better position both roster wise and financially, but they won't get a bite on a single waiver candidate.

GS planned well, but did get incredibly lucky also. They were paying Curry peanuts because he was always hurt. His low #, and the massive cap spike allowed them to get KD. But not just that, they now also get first dibs on ring chasers like David West on a minimum contract.

As I wrote, Neil needs to be ultra careful in this market, and he over-extended his resources for mediocrity and can't dig himself out. He's not without blame.
 
tester551 said:
What is so broken about the system? Good teams plan ahead and can take advantage of it.

Teams with less foresight (like Portland) end up making stupid decisions, which have a compounding effect.

That's the way the world operates.... People (or teams) that do stuff better than their piers are the ones who succeed.
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Just one (of many) examples, would be the Varejao trade.
We were under the floor & NO got a first from Cleveland to take him on. Instead of keeping him on the roster until June and trade him again in the off-season, NO cut him and stretched his contract. We are still have Varejao's $2M cap hit on our books. His contract is going to cost Portland $3M in tax this year & another $3M for the next two years.

The year we cut him, we were under the salary floor - so we could have kept him without any additional cost. It's little things like that 'small' decision that makes a big difference.
 
tester551 said:
Just one (of many) examples, would be the Varejao trade.
We were under the floor & NO got a first from Cleveland to take him on. Instead of keeping him on the roster until June and trade him again in the off-season, NO cut him and stretched his contract. We are still have Varejao's $2M cap hit on our books. His contract is going to cost Portland $3M in tax this year & another $3M for the next two years.

The year we cut him, we were under the salary floor - so we could have kept him without any additional cost. It's little things like that 'small' decision that makes a big difference.
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Pretty sure that was Neil doing Andy and his agent (Dan Fegan) a solid. Agreed on how small decisions tend to blow up in this environment.
 
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Lukee said:
Green and 1st round pick for Bradley? Spurs crazy
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Are they; has anyone seen them make a lot of crazy moves? If the Spurs want Bradley, then I do. Vonleh, Connaughton, Swanigan and Layman for Bradley. Or Harkless and a first and a second. Or a first plus Vonleh plus Davis.
Once I got Bradley, I am getting rid of Turner. Turner and Nurkic for Oubre and Mahimni. BTW, Mahimni has played over 20 minutes a game in his last four and is shooting .733 for the season.
 
RR7 said:
Green has a player option for next season, Leonard has 2 years remaining. Green is easily playable. Leonard...

These two offers are very very different, and often lead to fans pissed at the deadline that WE didn't do a deal that another team did, as if they were similar assets.
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Although our draft pick will likely be higher than Spurs.
 
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