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I'll believe it when I see it. Not before
Could be Cronin or Schmitz or someone trying to float rumors just to try and drum up the 2 FRP asking price. "A large amount of assets" would be a dream come true, although that's so abstract someone could try to sell 2nd round picks and worthless vets as being that.

Hoping not, but yeah after so many deadlines of zero Blazers action I'll also believe it when I see it.
 
Could be Cronin or Schmitz or someone trying to float rumors just to try and drum up the 2 FRP asking price. "A large amount of assets" would be a dream come true, although that's so abstract someone could try to sell 2nd round picks and worthless vets as being that.

Hoping not, but yeah after so many deadlines of zero Blazers action I'll also believe it when I see it.

I don't know who Evan Sidery is. Doesn't really matter

that just looks like a press release from the Blazer front office. Nobody from the F.O's of Phoenix or Dallas or Cleveland is going to say that the Blazers are receiving a lot of interest in those guys or that they would get a return a "large amount of assets". It's just not very credible
 
I don't know who Evan Sidery is. Doesn't really matter

that just looks like a press release from the Blazer front office. Nobody from the F.O's of Phoenix or Dallas or Cleveland is going to say that the Blazers are receiving a lot of interest in those guys or that they would get a return a "large amount of assets". It's just not very credible

Good point.

I'd think about the best case scenario is the Blazers have a deal or are very close to a deal that will be done Dec15th. The Blazers are just floating this story out there in an effort to get one final batch of offers from the league before they complete the deal, hoping some team decides to offer a bit more. You'd have to imagine Cronin and the front office sees the same stuff we see and may have some interest to ship out vets sooner than later.

My fear is these vets of our just don't have value and this is a story thats a desperate attempt to get something for these vets. Ultimately we'll just be stuck with them.

5 days until a lot of players become tradeable.
 
Did I miss the thread about how GT JR went from PDX to TOR to MIL?
 
Bucks gonna beat the Thunder to win the cup is my guess
 
Again, the Blazers only beat the Pelicans when Davis was injured during the regular season. If Davis played all of those games Portland would have likely been swept by the Pelicans in the regular season as well.
Meaningless. OKC swept us 4-0 in 18-19 reg season and we beat them 4-1 playoffs.
 
Yep. Davis had injury problems and that prevented the Pelicans from getting a good seed year after year. The difference was Davis was healthy vs the Blazers that series. Without Davis and Cousins the Blazers could outscore them. So picking the Blazers to win was picking Davis to miss 4 of the 7 games.

With Davis the teams weren't close that season. The Blazers were woefully outclassed talent wise. Without Davis the Pelicans didn't have enough offense to keep up with Portland and they didn't have enough defense to shut down both Dame and CJ consistently.

Even with Davis the Pelicans didn't have enough offense to keep up with Golden State, who had more All Stars and better defense.

Davis was healthy enough for the Pelicans to make the playoffs twice in his time there, and both times they were easily run out of the playoffs by Golden State (like most other teams Golden State faced during this time). They just got a lucky draw against a team they were more talented than when they dropped to 6 and were gifted Portland at 3.

Portland's only chance in that series was the Pelicans having devastating injury problems. Which wasn't unlikely. But it has very little to do with Dame or coaching. Portland simply didn't have the horses to compete with a healthy Pelicans team that season.
Dame was awful in the series. Awful. It was his fault. He got beat by Jrue and Rondo, both championship winning PGs.
 
People bring up them being the 6th seed as if they were significantly worse. The Pelicans were 1 win worse.

That's my point. And it's not that surprising that a team with 1 fewer win and there was a total of 5 points difference between their games that year (and sucked at defense) lost to a team 1 game worse than them with better roster construction.

And the post I quoted directly referenced the 6th seed vs 3rd seed thing.

This isn't about whether or not it was a disappointment, it was about how the "3rd vs 6th" narrative is lazy and inaccurate.
It’s not lazy. If you win game 7 by 1 point, you win the title. If you win the 3 seed by 1 win, you still win the 3 seed and HCA. We beat them to the 3 seed fair and square.
 
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Rondo's defense was far better than anybody Portland had. Not even close.

Yes, the Blazers roster was absolutely trash. They didn't have any winners like Rondo or Jrue (say what want about Rondo, his play wasn't the reason he was only making the minimum). Portland didn't have any elite athletes like Davis.

All they had was Dame.
Ok so let’s get back on track. This thread went sideways because I said Jrue is better than Damr if you want playoff success. After everything said about the 2018 series, I still believe that. Prove me wrong. Celtics failed year after without Jrue. Bucks failed in both of Giannis’ MVP years but when Jrue got there, instant title.
 
Ok so let’s get back on track. This thread went sideways because I said Jrue is better than Damr if you want playoff success. After everything said about the 2018 series, I still believe that. Prove me wrong. Celtics failed year after without Jrue. Bucks failed in both of Giannis’ MVP years but when Jrue got there, instant title.
I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm not sure why you're trying to argue with me.
 
Dame was awful in the series. Awful. It was his fault. He got beat by Jrue and Rondo, both championship winning PGs.
Yes, he was playing against a team with three great defensive all stars. He was an offensively gifted all star without any help...

I didn't expect Portland to win that series unless Davis was injured 4 games.
 
Let's figure out a way to get in on that deal and send Ayton to New Orleans.
 
Maybe something along the lines of

Mia CJ and Thybulle
NOP Ayton
PDX Rozier, Duncan Robinson, and Jovic
 
OKC is sooo good on both offense and defense. They don't have any bad defenders in their rotation. Their defense is super intense and tough to score on even when they go small.

With the boatload of picks they have, that they don't even need right now, they might be a powerhouse for the next decade+
 
OKC is sooo good on both offense and defense. They don't have any bad defenders in their rotation. Their defense is super intense and tough to score on even when they go small.

With the boatload of picks they have, that they don't even need right now, they might be a powerhouse for the next decade+
This should be our goal.
 
This should be our goal.
They only tanked for 2 seasons... We've already doubled them

They flipped tons of vets for a lot picks and they didn't waste cap space signing pointless vets, they used cap space to get more picks.

Guys like CP3 they got a pick to bring him in then another pick to trade him out.

The difference is we do things like spend two first round picks on Roco, one on Nance, one on Grant, two on Deni. None of these guys were difference makers nor expected help the Blazers to contend.
 
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
Jalen Williams
Chet Holmgren

blazers don't have anybody close to those guys

and their next 4:

Isaiah Hartenstein
Luguentz Dort
Isaiah Joe
Aaron Wiggins

Blazers have guys at that level, barely, but the OKC roster makes a lot more sense than Portland's does. And amazingly, I don't see any major issues with OKC's cap over the next 1.7 seasons. They will have to re-sign Jalen Williams and Holmgren in 2026. But they have the escape valve of not picking up the 28.5M option on Hartenstein
 
OKC has a great coach. Instilled defense. Arms always up and always going after the ball. Always. IIRC Dort simply grabbed the ball from POR twice. Just ripped it right out of Ants hands. Taking candy from a baby.

Doesn't hurt that Shai will soon be arguably the best player on the planet.
 
OKC has a great coach. Instilled defense. Arms always up and always going after the ball. Always. IIRC Dort simply grabbed the ball from POR twice. Just ripped it right out of Ants hands. Taking candy from a baby.

Doesn't hurt that Shai will soon be arguably the best player on the planet.
To me its very hard to tell as the rosters are so different in talent. One is a top 3 roster and the other is a bottom 3.

Switch Mark and Chauncey and I'd be very curious to see how each team performs.

Mark has shown to be a very good coach so I do think he is legit. I do question Billups. But until we have a roster that isn't a bottom 10 roster in this league its just very hard to evaluate the coach.
 


I'm not saying this isn't a legitimate injury. But we are now approaching nearly 1/3 of the season completed and the lottery picture is forming as well as the early evaluations of 2025 draft talent. So, we're at the point for many teams when a 2-week injury stretches to 5 weeks; and a 5 week injury might be season ending
 
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