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Natebishop3 said:
Does the Indianapolis 500 really care about international flights and convention center space?
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It's literally the biggest single day event in the entire world. Single day ticket sales of 230,000.
 
kjironman1 said:
It's literally the biggest single day event in the entire world. Single day ticket sales of 230,000.
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But how many of those are fans from other countries? That isn't F1 right? There are international racing leagues that I would think have a much larger fanbase of fans in other countries. Isn't Indycar racing mostly American?
 
Natebishop3 said:
But how many of those are fans from other countries? That isn't F1 right? There are international racing leagues that I would think have a much larger fanbase of fans in other countries. Isn't Indycar racing mostly American?
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No my friend they got lots of international. How about Andretti?

Lets not forget Fittipaldi Brazil 1989 and 1993
How about Simon Pagenaud France 2019
Takuma Sato from Japan 2020

No the Indianapolis 500 is the largest because it's very international.
 
kjironman1 said:
Now the convention center is a problem. After the 2019 renovation they have hit a standstill. They actually need to build pretty much a whole new convention center. They could do another addition but It's never going to reach 500,000+ Sq Ft. The conversation is that the Coliseum again is in the way. Seems to always come down to why are we saving the coliseum?
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No, we do not need a new convention center. Convention centers are a boondoggle. Portland is never going to attract the large conventions needed to pay for a bigger convention center. I love Portland but there is nothing for tourists to do here. Currently when we do get bigger conventions here the majority of visitors are taking charter buses up to Ilani. There are no restaurants or nightlife around the convention center. Walking or taking the Max to downtown or the Lloyd Center isn't really an option. And there is nothing on the drawing board to fix that. Even if we were to do away with all the homeless in the central core of the city there is still nothing to do here. We can not compete with the more popular destinations for the large conventions needed to pay for a new convention center.

Google convention centers, multiple lists, Portland doesn't make the top 50 of any of them. It's okay, Portland is a great city in one of the most beautiful areas of the country, but we're honestly 20 years away from ever being a major convention destination.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_convention_centers_in_the_United_States

Looks like there are 22 convention centers in the US that are over 650K sq ft, in 18 cities, 13 of which have NBA teams. So basically half the NBA is ineligible, including cities you wouldn't expect like Miami and Boston.
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Yeah that convention center space just seems like a very crazy number? It's literally the one thing Portland will probably never get. Rooms Portland will have. 5 star Hotels Portland will have. Flights Portland will have.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
No, we do not need a new convention center. Convention centers are a boondoggle. Portland is never going to attract the large conventions needed to pay for a bigger convention center. I love Portland but there is nothing for tourists to do here. Currently when we do get bigger conventions here the majority of visitors are taking charter buses up to Ilani. There are no restaurants or nightlife around the convention center. Walking or taking the Max to downtown or the Lloyd Center isn't really an option. And there is nothing on the drawing board to fix that. Even if we were to do away with all the homeless in the central core of the city there is still nothing to do here. We can not compete with the more popular destinations for the large conventions needed to pay for a new convention center.

Google convention centers, multiple lists, Portland doesn't make the top 50 of any of them. It's okay, Portland is a great city in one of the most beautiful areas of the country, but we're honestly 20 years away from ever being a major convention destination.
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Totally agree. Portland not only will ever use a bigger convention center but they won't build one.
They need to build my vision of the indoor Amusement/Swimming/Restaurants/ Mono Rail/Shopping/Events/Concert venue around the entire Moda center area.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
No, we do not need a new convention center. Convention centers are a boondoggle. Portland is never going to attract the large conventions needed to pay for a bigger convention center. I love Portland but there is nothing for tourists to do here. Currently when we do get bigger conventions here the majority of visitors are taking charter buses up to Ilani. There are no restaurants or nightlife around the convention center. Walking or taking the Max to downtown or the Lloyd Center isn't really an option. And there is nothing on the drawing board to fix that. Even if we were to do away with all the homeless in the central core of the city there is still nothing to do here. We can not compete with the more popular destinations for the large conventions needed to pay for a new convention center.

Google convention centers, multiple lists, Portland doesn't make the top 50 of any of them. It's okay, Portland is a great city in one of the most beautiful areas of the country, but we're honestly 20 years away from ever being a major convention destination.
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kjironman1 said:
Totally agree. Portland not only will ever use a bigger convention center but they won't build one.
They need to build my vision of the indoor Amusement/Swimming/Restaurants/ Mono Rail/Shopping/Events/Concert venue around the entire Moda center area.
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I agree Portland will never build one. But if they did, I think the lloyd center would be big enough. Demo that shit mall and build the biggest convention center in the US and have it sit empty 90% of the time. Lol.

funny thing is ive wanted us to have one for a long time… and now i wonder why. Not like i could afford to attend, it’s all sold to corporate and celebs. I cant compete with that! So fuck it. Im with you @SlyPokerDog. Perfectly content if we never have one.
 
kjironman1 said:
Totally agree. Portland not only will ever use a bigger convention center but they won't build one.
They need to build my vision of the indoor Amusement/Swimming/Restaurants/ Mono Rail/Shopping/Events/Concert venue around the entire Moda center area.
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With UPS closing their facility on Swan Island it's time to look there as a focus for new development. The Port of Portland has pretty much given up on doing actual port things and now just wants to make PDX win meaningless accolades.

Step 1. Make a deal with the Indian tribes in Oregon to establish jointly run riverboat gambling.

Step 2. Build hotels and an amphitheater next to the riverboats.

Step 3. Offer tax incentives to many of the businesses down there to move out, opening land for things like a baseball stadium. We're the fucking River City, our stadium needs to be next to the water and used as a backdrop to advertise Portland. Also, that would take a ton of commercial trucking out of the overly congested downtown core.

Fun fact: Swan Island was the first choice of Bugsy Siegel for his casino that was built in Vegas. Then, Portland's airport was located on Swan Island and Siegel already owned land on Sauvie Island.
 
kjironman1 said:
So I know a little bit about what's coming. Portland will have at least one more 5 star pretty quick called Cascadia. And they are going to build the Hyatt Place which will also be 5 star 23 story building with about 200 more rooms. Choice Cambria will have just under 200 rooms also but I'm not sure that will be 5 star?
There is also the Kimpton Riverplace that is very close to 5 star.
The Hotel issue is getting fixed.

Now the convention center is a problem. After the 2019 renovation they have hit a standstill. They actually need to build pretty much a whole new convention center. They could do another addition but It's never going to reach 500,000+ Sq Ft. The conversation is that the Coliseum again is in the way. Seems to always come down to why are we saving the coliseum?

Flights won't be a problem at all here in another year. PDX is in the middle of a huge upgrade. 75 nonstop domestic and 20 international will be an easy target.
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I'd be really bummed if they take down the coliseum. I go watch several winter hawks games a year there. Don't know where winterhawks could play. They use to play select games in the rose garden but I doubt they could play an entire season there. Sucks.
 
kjironman1 said:
It's literally the biggest single day event in the entire world. Single day ticket sales of 230,000.
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I am not sure that have thousands of people camp on the race track really matches the criteria the NBA is trying to achieve...

I am sure that if you allow camping even the small PIR can host quite a bit of people, so, apples to Komodo dragons or some such...
 
kjironman1 said:
No my friend they got lots of international. How about Andretti?

Lets not forget Fittipaldi Brazil 1989 and 1993
How about Simon Pagenaud France 2019
Takuma Sato from Japan 2020

No the Indianapolis 500 is the largest because it's very international.
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I don't know much about car racing. I was always more interested in motorcycle racing honestly. So I guess the more you know!
 
Pelicans chomping Rockets.
Houston guards firing duds, 21% FG
 
SlyPokerDog said:
With UPS closing their facility on Swan Island it's time to look there as a focus for new development. The Port of Portland has pretty much given up on doing actual port things and now just wants to make PDX win meaningless accolades.

Step 1. Make a deal with the Indian tribes in Oregon to establish jointly run riverboat gambling.

Step 2. Build hotels and an amphitheater next to the riverboats.

Step 3. Offer tax incentives to many of the businesses down there to move out, opening land for things like a baseball stadium. We're the fucking River City, our stadium needs to be next to the water and used as a backdrop to advertise Portland. Also, that would take a ton of commercial trucking out of the overly congested downtown core.

Fun fact: Swan Island was the first choice of Bugsy Siegel for his casino that was built in Vegas. Then, Portland's airport was located on Swan Island and Siegel already owned land on Sauvie Island.
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UPS isn’t closing their facility. There’s 4 different shifts where volume is moved. They’re closing the day shift.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
HAH!
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Poll of Top 10 Greatest Movie Actors in 2003

1.Al Pacino
2.Robert De Niro
3.Tom Hanks
4.Kevin Spacey
5.Harrison Ford
6.Jack Nicholson
7.Anthony Hopkins
8.Sean Connery
9.Ewan McGregor
10.Cary Grant
11.Samuel L Jackson
12.James Stewart
13.Audrey Hepburn
14.Steve McQueen
15.Brad Pitt
16.Paul Newman
17.Mel Gibson
18.Clint Eastwood
19.Robin Williams
20.Sigourney Weaver


Poll of Top 10 Greatest Movie Actors in 2023

  1. Tom Cruise
  2. Dwayne Johnson
  3. Tom Hanks
  4. Brad Pitt
  5. Denzel Washington
  6. Julia Roberts
  7. Will Smith
  8. Leonardo DiCaprio
  9. Johnny Depp
  10. Kevin Hart
  11. Keanu Reeves
  12. Sandra Bullock
  13. Ryan Reynolds
  14. Adam Sandler
  15. Harrison Ford
  16. George Clooney
  17. Robert Downey Jr.
  18. Angelina Jolie
  19. Morgan Freeman
  20. Chris Hemsworth
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Poll of Top 10 Greatest Movie Actors in 2003

1.Al Pacino
2.Robert De Niro
3.Tom Hanks
4.Kevin Spacey
5.Harrison Ford
6.Jack Nicholson
7.Anthony Hopkins
8.Sean Connery
9.Ewan McGregor
10.Cary Grant
11.Samuel L Jackson
12.James Stewart
13.Audrey Hepburn
14.Steve McQueen
15.Brad Pitt
16.Paul Newman
17.Mel Gibson
18.Clint Eastwood
19.Robin Williams
20.Sigourney Weaver


Poll of Top 10 Greatest Movie Actors in 2023

  1. Tom Cruise
  2. Dwayne Johnson
  3. Tom Hanks
  4. Brad Pitt
  5. Denzel Washington
  6. Julia Roberts
  7. Will Smith
  8. Leonardo DiCaprio
  9. Johnny Depp
  10. Kevin Hart
  11. Keanu Reeves
  12. Sandra Bullock
  13. Ryan Reynolds
  14. Adam Sandler
  15. Harrison Ford
  16. George Clooney
  17. Robert Downey Jr.
  18. Angelina Jolie
  19. Morgan Freeman
  20. Chris Hemsworth
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Kind of want to know how John Travolta isn't on either of those lists? But Sondra Bullock makes the mens list of Actors.
 
kjironman1 said:
Kind of want to know how John Travolta isn't on either of those lists? But Sondra Bullock makes the mens list of Actors.
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It's just the best people at acting... or at least that's what it's supposed to be. It looks to me though that the people thought the question was about the biggest movie star because The Rock and Kevin Hart haven't shown much in the way of acting chops. Weird to me that we don't see Charlize Theron on the list or that Meryl Streep never made either list since both are two of the great actors of all time.

Very strange that since both lists featured women that you would dub this "the mens list of Actors".
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Poll of Top 10 Greatest Movie Actors in 2003

1.Al Pacino
2.Robert De Niro
3.Tom Hanks
4.Kevin Spacey
5.Harrison Ford
6.Jack Nicholson
7.Anthony Hopkins
8.Sean Connery
9.Ewan McGregor
10.Cary Grant
11.Samuel L Jackson
12.James Stewart
13.Audrey Hepburn
14.Steve McQueen
15.Brad Pitt
16.Paul Newman
17.Mel Gibson
18.Clint Eastwood
19.Robin Williams
20.Sigourney Weaver


Poll of Top 10 Greatest Movie Actors in 2023

  1. Tom Cruise
  2. Dwayne Johnson
  3. Tom Hanks
  4. Brad Pitt
  5. Denzel Washington
  6. Julia Roberts
  7. Will Smith
  8. Leonardo DiCaprio
  9. Johnny Depp
  10. Kevin Hart
  11. Keanu Reeves
  12. Sandra Bullock
  13. Ryan Reynolds
  14. Adam Sandler
  15. Harrison Ford
  16. George Clooney
  17. Robert Downey Jr.
  18. Angelina Jolie
  19. Morgan Freeman
  20. Chris Hemsworth
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2 things I've noticed:

1) Robin Williams is criminally underrated in 2003. He's top 10 and there isn't really an argument to that.

2) Will Smith in 2023 is on the list but not in 2003 when he was arguably one of the top 3 actors at the time.
 
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