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MickZagger said:
Lebron and Westbrook aren’t as effective if they aren’t dominating the ball. Davis is injured yearly. Lebron will eventually start slowing down. Their supporting cast has gotten worse. They’ll be a top 3 team. But I don’t think they’ll dominate the league.

Westbrook is a great talent. But his stats aren’t as indicative of his outcome on games as they should.
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Great post. Agree with pretty much all of it, including this........"They'll be a top 3 team."
 
SlyPokerCat said:
And if they make the WCF or Finals and lose people will be like "SEE, I told you they are terrible and suck!".

Meanwhile we will be bounced in the first round.
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Yeah, we were bounced in the first round this year, weren't we? Remind me what happened to pre-season faves the Lakers this year.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Yeah, we were bounced in the first round this year, weren't we? Remind me what happened to pre-season faves the Lakers this year.
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Remind me what happened two years ago with the same 2 best players on their team. Then remind me the last time the Blazers won one.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
Remind me what happened two years ago with the same 2 best players on their team. Then remind me the last time the Blazers won one.
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@Rastapopoulos the cat is making some good points. Look at things logically and not with your pinwheel glasses on. Even if it hurts.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
Remind me what happened two years ago with the same 2 best players on their team. Then remind me the last time the Blazers won one.
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So you're saying that a team with those two players can either win a championship or get bounced in the first round? Okay. Let's see what happens this year.
 
THE HCP said:
Great post. Agree with pretty much all of it, including this........"They'll be a top 3 team."
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Not only do I think they won't be top 3, but I don't think they'll even try to be top 3. "Load Management" will be the mantra for the aging team. I'd be surprised if James plays more than 65 or so games this season.
 
THE HCP said:
Impossible to predict right now. SO much turnover. Chemistry will take awhile to come together for sure. It just cracks me up that people think they will be worse having Westbrook as their PG instead of Schruder.
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You mean, Westbrook instead of Caruso. Yes, Westbrook is a much greater individual talent, but the Lakers were great year before last because of their defense. They basically got rid of a lot of their defensive chops, didn't add any shooting and added a player in Westbrook who's really not useful off the ball and giving him the ball is much better for the defense than giving it to LeBron or AD. You focus far too much on Westbrook's numbers and not enough on how he's going to impact the Lakers' offense and defense in a five-on-five game, IMO.

My opinion: The Lakers' defense is going to drop off a lot, regular season and playoffs. Their offense will be fine in the regular season, but is also going to be worse in the playoffs than their championship year.

And since you get confused if I don't explicitly say it: I think they'll be among the top teams in the West. I just think they're worse than they were in their championship season, even if James and Davis play as much as they did in 2019-20 and as well.
 
What are people’s opinions of the Clippers this year if Kawhi misses the whole season? Are they still a top 6 team? They won some playoff games without him but is PG13 enough to get it done in a long season?
 
KSF-ERIC said:
What are people’s opinions of the Clippers this year if Kawhi misses the whole season? Are they still a top 6 team? They won some playoff games without him but is PG13 enough to get it done in a long season?
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No
 
MickZagger said:
Lebron and Westbrook aren’t as effective if they aren’t dominating the ball. Davis is injured yearly. Lebron will eventually start slowing down. Their supporting cast has gotten worse. They’ll be a top 3 team. But I don’t think they’ll dominate the league.

Westbrook is a great talent. But his stats aren’t as indicative of his outcome on games as they should.
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There is actually some article or podcast or something somewhere talking about how good LeBron is off the ball.

The issue is that most teams dont have anyone nearly as good on the ball.
 
JoshuaHall said:
There is actually some article or podcast or something somewhere talking about how good LeBron is off the ball.

The issue is that most teams dont have anyone nearly as good on the ball.
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When Russ has the ball that team is going to be deadly. Opponents are going to have to try and keep up with LeBron and AD, while two other guys spread the floor. Russ is probably the most dangerous passer in the game. If he doesn't jack a bunch of pullup and contested shots up, this team is going to be really tough to beat.
 
THE HCP said:
We HATE Melo so much......there is NO way he can play 25 minutes and give them some valuable scoring and get to the FT line down the stretch of a close game as a 4th option. Because we hate the Lakers SO much, there's NO way he gets the calls from the refs huh?
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That is a few things he did very well here. He made shots down the stretch and went to the free throw line a bunch (When he got there he made them as well). He does get calls. When up against a Rookie he just schools them no question.
Doesn't work that way in the Playoffs though. Teams don't play their end of bench guys and the calls are tougher to come buy. Melo will help them in the regular season getting to the playoffs. He stays healthy and produces a reasonable amount. But when the regular season is over they won't be able to play him as much.
 
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I do love this team no matter what. god help me I do love them so. (~patton)
 
Cugel said:
E8e2gtyVoAExKZZ


I do love this team no matter what. god help me I do love them so. (~patton)
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I don't love Anfernee's new haircut. It looks like a frisbee flew low over his head. My Gran would also say those boys need to get some meat on their bones.
 
I loved when Wes used to say..."We don't have stars, we have dawgs!" ..I feel like that looking at Norm and Roco and Ant in that photo...we're going to figure it out in Portland.
 
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THE HCP said:
Fuck outta here. Would be the highest rated/most watched finals EVER!
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You might be right, but it'd need to be on mute to have any sort of redeeming quality. It'd be nauseating to listen to.
 
blazerkor said:
When Russ has the ball that team is going to be deadly. Opponents are going to have to try and keep up with LeBron and AD, while two other guys spread the floor. Russ is probably the most dangerous passer in the game. If he doesn't jack a bunch of pullup and contested shots up, this team is going to be really tough to beat.
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I disagree. Westbrook makes this team less effective on both sides of the court. And it's not contested shots that Westbrook is pulling up for. They're wide open and he's missing. And that hurts his teammates. No one has to guard him. Not sure what you mean by dangerous but he makes horrible decisions at the end of games. Lakers would be better if they just swapped Westbrook back for KCP. You haven't been paying attention if you think otherwise.
 
THE HCP said:
Fuck outta here. Would be the highest rated/most watched finals EVER!
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Doubtful. The NBA Finals got the best ratings when Michael Jordan played. Pure and simple. We had a LeBron/Kyrie/Love/Curry/Klay/KD Final in 2017 and it brought in 20.38 million viewers on average. Meanwhile, every Jordan Finals (no matter who he played against) topped that culminating with an average of 29.04 viewers for the 1998 NBA Finals against the Jazz. I would bet $10,000 right now that a Nets/Lakers finals would not average higher than that. There simply isn't a star on Michael Jordan's level in the league right now. If you say "but but but LeBron!",I'm here to tell you that the last time LeBron was in the Finals (2020), the average viewership was 7.45 million viewers (the lowest since 1981). Before that, the lowest rated Finals of this century was LeBron's first NBA Finals in 2007. LeBron isn't a draw.
 
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