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Natebishop3 said:
This is tame.

Check this shit out

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Oh the retort though.
 
Gotta admit that is pretty sad when people openly wish injury on a player. He's simply doing something pretty much the entire team has done.
 
kjironman1 said:
Gotta admit that is pretty sad when people openly wish injury on a player. He's simply doing something pretty much the entire team has done.
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Not to mention, he played multiple seasons with Oklahoma St before transferring to Washington for one season. They were ok with him bailing on his last team and it's not like he some Washington legacy player. I guess even if he was, he can do whatever is best for him.

Silly.
 
irony is for years, other teams' fans have accused Oregon of buying players with bags of cash. Kind of fun now that it's legal and all that's left for those other teams' fans is to accuse Oregon of having a bigger bag than their school. The more things change....
 
All the predictions are that we're getting Gatlin Bair...... but he's gonna be gone for 2 years on a mission so it kinda doesn't matter much.
 
I don't understand why the NCAA goes through weird bouts of courage to start enforcing rules randomly.
 
Not surprising in the least.

B1G / SEC are playing a different game with different rules with all the money they’ve got.
 
Natebishop3 said:
He looks very promising. Hard to get excited when he won’t be here for two years.
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It’s not ideal. But I can wait 2 years for a 5 star receiver. He might even turn into a TE if he stays in the weight room. My be his best bet to make the NFL
 
MickZagger said:
It’s not ideal. But I can wait 2 years for a 5 star receiver. He might even turn into a TE if he stays in the weight room. My be his best bet to make the NFL
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A lot can happen in two years. I'll get excited when he's actually coming.

The only good thing from this is it boosts our class ranking.
 
MickZagger said:
It’s not ideal. But I can wait 2 years for a 5 star receiver. He might even turn into a TE if he stays in the weight room. My be his best bet to make the NFL
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At 6'2" 195 and a 10.15 100 meter time I do not see TE in his future.
 
I feel like the Ducks haven’t had a go to scorer in years. Long for the days of Tajuan Porter and Aaron Brooks.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
At 6'2" 195 and a 10.15 100 meter time I do not see TE in his future.
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For those that don't know, that time puts him the among the fastest HS kids in the country. Has any Duck current or past ever posted a 10.15 or better? I know Samie Parker put up 10.18 100M time while in Eugene... thats take the top off the D blazing speed

While a football future at Oregon is not guaranteed in two years when Bair's mission is over, the Ducks are the only program thats allowed to be in contact with him during that period. If he does play for them, he'll be a 20 year old Freshman. Being that he's a physical freak at 17, he could have an amazing impact after he settles in.

STOMP
 
STOMP said:
For those that don't know, that time puts him the among the fastest HS kids in the country. Has any Duck current or past ever posted a 10.15 or better? I know Samie Parker put up 10.18 100M time while in Eugene... thats take the top off the D blazing speed

While a football future at Oregon is not guaranteed in two years when Bair's mission is over, the Ducks are the only program thats allowed to be in contact with him during that period. If he does play for them, he'll be a 20 year old Freshman. Being that he's a physical freak at 17, he could have an amazing impact after he settles in.

STOMP
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Devon Allen?
 
MickZagger said:
Devon Allen?
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yeah, Allen was quite fast

Roderick Pleasant, the Duck freshman, ran a legal 10.14 and a wind-aided 10.09. Don Coleman, who migrated to football from track ran a legal 10.11 in 1978. That's the equivalent of under 10.0 today

the thing is though, that a lot of 100M sprinters generate their top 100M speeds in the last 30-40M; that's when they shave time off. Football speed is measured more appropriately by 40M/40yd marks. And what really determines football speed is acceleration and change of direction
 
wizenheimer said:
yeah, Allen was quite fast

Roderick Pleasant, the Duck freshman, ran a legal 10.14 and a wind-aided 10.09. Don Coleman, who migrated to football from track ran a legal 10.11 in 1978. That's the equivalent of under 10.0 today

the thing is though, that a lot of 100M sprinters generate their top 100M speeds in the last 30-40M; that's when they shave time off. Football speed is measured more appropriately by 40M/40yd marks. And what really determines football speed is acceleration and change of direction
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Yeah, no doubt nothing is better than someone like DeAnthony Thomas whose 100-meter time was only 10.6. But.......Devon Allen's speed was a great asset stretching the field, and Bair is bigger at 6.'2" than Allen. He looks to have pretty good hands.

With that kind of speed, I would anticipate DBs giving him plenty of cushion, and with his height, he should be a good target for short passes because of that extra cushion.
 
Brandon Bair is from Idaho wonder if they are related?
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Yeah, no doubt nothing is better than someone like DeAnthony Thomas whose 100-meter time was only 10.6. But.......Devon Allen's speed was a great asset stretching the field, and Bair is bigger at 6.'2" than Allen. He looks to have pretty good hands.

With that kind of speed, I would anticipate DBs giving him plenty of cushion, and with his height, he should be a good target for short passes because of that extra cushion.
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good point. He may become a viable possession receiver like Chase Cota or a bigger/faster Jeff Maehl, but with the speed to be a deadly stop-and-go deep threat. Devon Allen was developing into that but his knees couldn't survive football contact
 
wizenheimer said:
good point. He may become a viable possession receiver like Chase Cota or a bigger/faster Jeff Maehl, but with the speed to be a deadly stop-and-go deep threat. Devon Allen was developing into that but his knees couldn't survive football contact
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I feel like Maehl was primarily used on WR screens. I don’t remember him as a deep threat.
 
it kind of got lost in the trade deadline chatter but there was a pretty significant development in NCAA basketball:





I'm imagining there's months and months of litigation ahead for this ruling, but it sure looks like the NCAA is on life-support and the coffin is next to the death bed
 
wizenheimer said:
I don't agree. There wasn't any significant 'investment' difference between Helfrich and Mario, but they sure recruited at different levels. Now, Mario was a star-chaser to the point a lot of his highly rated recruits were borderline or outright busts. But he did elevate Oregon's recruiting ranking into the top-10

it's a little tricky assigning value to classes when there is a coaching change and high count de-commitments. If you toss out the class that Taggart had a hand in, then Mario's class rankings were #8 - #13 (Covid) - #7. The Mario/Lanning class in 2016 was #16; Lanning's tow classes have ranked #9 and #5

by comparison, the Helfrich/Taggart class ranked #18. The three Helfrich classes ranked #21 (2014) - #16 (2015) - #28 (2016). Chip's 3 classes ranked #13 - #11 - #15

(by the way, in the transition class between Taggart/Mario, Oregon had 13 de-commitments)
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Helfrich was the king of finishing second for big name recruits(think Juju Smith, Rasheem Green. Josh Sweat). He also worked with less scholarships and official visits because of Chip Kelly's recruiting violations at a time when visiting campuses unofficially wasn't the expectation that it is now. Also, some credit needs to be given to Helfrich when you hear recruits say they've been Oregon fans since the days of Mariota and Deanthony Thomas. Helfrich also coached and recruited these program legends that so many current recruits mention. The Oregon brand makes all of this possible, and it's far greater now than it was even then and it's why every year Oregon gets ranked as among the top social media presences. Cristobal and Lanning are on another level than Helf in terms of recruiting, that is undeniable, but they get too much credit and Helfrich gets too little in most estimations.
 
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