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As I previously said, it was almost a certainty this would pick back up. Might be even quicker than I anticipated. It just makes too much sense.

 
Shouldn’t be hard to convince BSU to get out of Ducks games. They don’t want to face any team that has more than a 25% chance of beating them.
 
wizenheimer said:
it doesn't make one bit of sense to me
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That's wild to me. You're against Oregon scheduling games against mid-tier conference opponents? Reducing travel? Having a near guaranteed sellout?

Are you against them scheduling Boise St?
 
Natebishop3 said:
Probably money. There's a lot of money to be made off the Civil War.
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And reduced travel. And what is likely to be a good (but very beatable) non-conference opponent.

Oregon shouldn't need to schedule a premier non-conference opponent moving forward. Oregon St should be the best opponent the play in my opinion.
 
Tince said:
That's wild to me. You're against Oregon scheduling games against mid-tier conference opponents? Reducing travel? Having a near guaranteed sellout?

Are you against them scheduling Boise St?
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I'm against them scheduling games with Boise State every fucking year, year after year, in a reciprocal home-and-home arrangement. That would be stupid and it's something other Big-10 teams WILL NOT be doing

Boise State was coming to Autzen next year along with Texas Tech and Idaho. Will OSU agree to playing 2 years in a row in Eugene; and will OSU agree to playing twice in Eugene and once in Corvallis because Boise State agreed to the 2-for-1 arrangement. If OSU won't agree, and I can't see them doing so, Oregon should tell them to pound sand

in 2025-26 Oregon has a home-and-home scheduled with Oklahoma State. In 2027-28 they have a home-and-home scheduled with Baylor. Adding OSU to those OOC schedules is nuts. There is no upside, only downside, at least not if you want to compete for championships

look at Ohio State's OOC scehdules

2024: Southern Miss; Western Michigan; Marshall
2025: Texas; Ohio Bobcats; UConn
2026: Ball State; @Texas; Kent State
2027: Bowling Green; New Hampshire; Alabama
2028: Bufflao; @Alabama; Northern Illinois

this is typical of what elite programs do. They schedule at least two cupcakes OOC; the SEC schedules at least 3. And they schedule, maybe, one significant challenge. Enough of a challenge that an early season OOC loss to another top program won't be hurting them much in November as the playoffs approach. And notice that out of 15 OOC games over the next 5 years, tOSU only plays 2 on the road. Over the last 10 non-covid years, Alabama has played 40 OOC games; 38 of those games have been at home; one road game every 5 years. And like all SEC teams, their OOC schedules are heavy with cupcakes.

I like the idea of a home-and-home with Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, and Baylor. Those teams add variety and would be the typical one challenging game in the OOC schedule. Frankly, I hated the home-and-home with Boise State, and the reasons are obvious: just like it would be with OSU, playing Oregon will be Boise State's super bowl. They will spend all summer preparing for the Oregon game, while Oregon is spending all summer preparing for the Big-10 schedule. If Oregon wins they don't get credit for a significant win. If they get upset, they will have that black mark hanging over their heads the rest of the season. Losing to a MWC team is enough to keep a team out of the playoffs, even with a 12 team playoff, because going thru the Big-10 season without a loss seems unlikely.

now I don't know what it is the schools are supposedly talking about. If it's just the next 2 years or if it's idiotically continuing the series for decades. But what I see is Oregon straddling a fence, trying to keep tradition alive when tradition is an anachronism. OSU fans sure as hell don't want to keep the series going. I think Oregon should cooperate
 
Tince said:
Oregon shouldn't need to schedule a premier non-conference opponent moving forward. Oregon St should be the best opponent the play in my opinion.
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LOL...absolutely fuck that noise

as I said above, Oregon already has a home-and-home scheduled with Oklahoma State and Baylor. And they have the 2nd half of the Texas Tech series scheduled next year. Given the choice of 5 games with Texas Tech, Ok. State, and Baylor or 5 games with the Beavers, anybody who would chose 5 games with the Beavers is 100% chucklehead
 
wizenheimer said:
LOL...absolutely fuck that noise

as I said above, Oregon already has a home-and-home scheduled with Oklahoma State and Baylor. And they have the 2nd half of the Texas Tech series scheduled next year. Given the choice of 5 games with Texas Tech, Ok. State, and Baylor or 5 games with the Beavers, anybody who would chose 5 games with the Beavers is 100% chucklehead
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Correct. The schedule the next few years is wonky because of how quick this change happened and how far out teams typically schedule.

Mullens might be a chucklehead for trying so hard to schedule OSU for no good reason. Or maybe he has a good reason... Same with Washington scheduling Washington St.
 
wizenheimer said:
I'm against them scheduling games with Boise State every fucking year, year after year, in a reciprocal home-and-home arrangement. That would be stupid and it's something other Big-10 teams WILL NOT be doing

Boise State was coming to Autzen next year along with Texas Tech and Idaho. Will OSU agree to playing 2 years in a row in Eugene; and will OSU agree to playing twice in Eugene and once in Corvallis because Boise State agreed to the 2-for-1 arrangement. If OSU won't agree, and I can't see them doing so, Oregon should tell them to pound sand

in 2025-26 Oregon has a home-and-home scheduled with Oklahoma State. In 2027-28 they have a home-and-home scheduled with Baylor. Adding OSU to those OOC schedules is nuts. There is no upside, only downside, at least not if you want to compete for championships

look at Ohio State's OOC scehdules

2024: Southern Miss; Western Michigan; Marshall
2025: Texas; Ohio Bobcats; UConn
2026: Ball State; @Texas; Kent State
2027: Bowling Green; New Hampshire; Alabama
2028: Bufflao; @Alabama; Northern Illinois

this is typical of what elite programs do. They schedule at least two cupcakes OOC; the SEC schedules at least 3. And they schedule, maybe, one significant challenge. Enough of a challenge that an early season OOC loss to another top program won't be hurting them much in November as the playoffs approach. And notice that out of 15 OOC games over the next 5 years, tOSU only plays 2 on the road. Over the last 10 non-covid years, Alabama has played 40 OOC games; 38 of those games have been at home; one road game every 5 years. And like all SEC teams, their OOC schedules are heavy with cupcakes.

I like the idea of a home-and-home with Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, and Baylor. Those teams add variety and would be the typical one challenging game in the OOC schedule. Frankly, I hated the home-and-home with Boise State, and the reasons are obvious: just like it would be with OSU, playing Oregon will be Boise State's super bowl. They will spend all summer preparing for the Oregon game, while Oregon is spending all summer preparing for the Big-10 schedule. If Oregon wins they don't get credit for a significant win. If they get upset, they will have that black mark hanging over their heads the rest of the season. Losing to a MWC team is enough to keep a team out of the playoffs, even with a 12 team playoff, because going thru the Big-10 season without a loss seems unlikely.

now I don't know what it is the schools are supposedly talking about. If it's just the next 2 years or if it's idiotically continuing the series for decades. But what I see is Oregon straddling a fence, trying to keep tradition alive when tradition is an anachronism. OSU fans sure as hell don't want to keep the series going. I think Oregon should cooperate
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You seem to be assuming OSU isn't going to be a cupcake in the coming years? You think they'll be able to thread the needle and maintain recruiting/coaching staff despite being relegated? I think they'll be much closer to Western Michigan, UConn, Ball St, Bowling Green, and Northern Illinois, who Ohio St has scheduled.
 
Correct me if I get any of these wrong, but here are some notable annual non-conference rivalry games:
  • Florida vs Florida St
  • Notre Dame vs USC
  • Notre Dame vs Stanford
  • Utah vs BYU
  • Iowa vs Iowa St
  • Colorado vs Colorado St (had a small break)
  • Georgia vs Georgia Tech
  • Clemson vs S Carolina
  • West Virgina vs Pitt
  • Missouri vs Kansas
 
Tince said:
Correct me if I get any of these wrong, but here are some notable annual non-conference rivalry games:
  • Florida vs Florida St
  • Notre Dame vs USC
  • Notre Dame vs Stanford
  • Utah vs BYU
  • Iowa vs Iowa St
  • Colorado vs Colorado St (had a small break)
  • Georgia vs Georgia Tech
  • Clemson vs S Carolina
  • West Virgina vs Pitt
  • Missouri vs Kansas
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Notre Dame vs Navy is another one.
 
wizenheimer said:
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Bunch of people who have never been media who are commenting on some shit they don’t know anything about.

The media aren’t fans. They’re at the game to do a job. When I was doing blazer games I would get to the arena by 430 and leave at 1030 or 11. I’m not buying food at the arena. It is just considered being a good host for the home team to provide a meal.
 
posts from the thread that tweet is based on:

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mostly, Beaver fans were appalled about what that thread is highlighting and the impact that lack of hospitality will have on media, especially national media

Beaver fans spent year's ridiculing Oregon's efforts and focus on branding. On how Oregon paid a lot of attention to public relations and glad-handing media. Instead of ridiculing and dismissing Oregon's efforts in these areas, they should have been taking notes
 
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Lanning when asked about scheduling Oregon St in the future...

"Yeah, I think games like this are in important and it would be great if that is something we can make happen and continue to make happen... I know everyone on our end would love to see that continue."
 
Tince said:
Lanning when asked about scheduling Oregon St in the future...

"Yeah, I think games like this are in important and it would be great if that is something we can make happen and continue to make happen... I know everyone on our end would love to see that continue."
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I'd love to see it. In fact, I hope OSU and WSU are successful in getting a PAC conference going and the Ducks are able to come back at some point.
 
Phatguysrule said:
I'd love to see it. In fact, I hope OSU and WSU are successful in getting a PAC conference going and the Ducks are able to come back at some point.
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Hard for me to wrap my head around the scenario where that happens, but if Oregon can return to the Pac10-12 while still being competitive from a TV contract standpoint, I'm all for it.

Or just move all the non-football sports back to the Pac12 and let football do their own thing.
 
Tince said:
Hard for me to wrap my head around the scenario where that happens, but if Oregon can return to the Pac10-12 while still being competitive from a TV contract standpoint, I'm all for it.

Or just move all the non-football sports back to the Pac12 and let football do their own thing.
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Agreed. I don't see how it works, other than a power 5 mega conference with regional divisions, one being the PAC.
 
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wizenheimer said:
this is typical of what elite programs do. They schedule at least two cupcakes OOC; the SEC schedules at least 3. And they schedule, maybe, one significant challenge. Enough of a challenge that an early season OOC loss to another top program won't be hurting them much in November as the playoffs approach. And notice that out of 15 OOC games over the next 5 years, tOSU only plays 2 on the road. Over the last 10 non-covid years, Alabama has played 40 OOC games; 38 of those games have been at home; one road game every 5 years. And like all SEC teams, their OOC schedules are heavy with cupcakes.
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Several schools, even "elite" programs retain regular OOC home-and-home series'. Florida-FSU; Georgia-GA Tech; Clemson-South Carolina; USC-Notre Dame. I think it would be great to add a continuing UO-OSU matchup to that list. Some things are worth more than potential playoffs appearances.
 
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