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I've heard that Mississippi, Mizzou, and Oregon are handing out "crazy" NIL deals
 
Natebishop3 said:
So we didn't lose a single commit today, and actually flipped a couple.

Gresham, McLellan and Pellum is an insane haul at WR.
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Can't recall Oregon holding all their commits in the last week before signing day. I'm sure today didn't go "perfect" for Lanning and Co. but it has to be the next closest thing!

Jericho Johnson is announcing tomorrow and while he's uncommitted, Oregon appears to be the leader.

https://247sports.com/Player/jericho-johnson-46132202/
 
what I've been told by someone who would know:

* 'Oregon might be in the top-10 in NIL spending; but also might not. Several SEC teams and the Florida schools likely spend more. So do 2 or 3 Big-10 teams. Oregon could be the biggest spender on the west coast, but USC spends just about as much (contrary to their claims) and Colorado spends more in the portal, or at least did last year. And that Oregon has a budget, makes an offer, and is not inclined to go over their number or to haggle with players, agents, or families'

* 'Phil Knight is still rather reluctant to get fully involved in NIL because he believes he'd have to get into auctions for the same players, the following year. He's not real fond of NIL or the transfer portal but he understands the realities'

* 'a lot of the numbers you hear thrown around about NIL deals made by Oregon are bullshit. A toxic combination of sour grapes and wild exaggeration.'
 
wizenheimer said:
is it the same person that told you Stanford would get into the Big-10 before Oregon?
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That’s not what I said.

I said a couple ACC schools were higher on the pecking order than Oregon / Wash.

I also said that Notre Dame was the #1 priority and they could demand Stanford or GA Tech if I recall.

And - as a reminder - that was before the Pac12 blew up.

I think it has been “leaked” since then that the B1G was going to look East before it looked West.

And finally, no. But this person would know for sure… considering they represent the NIL dealings for a not-insignificant number of significant players.
 
wizenheimer said:
what I've been told by someone who would know:

* 'Oregon might be in the top-10 in NIL spending; but also might not. Several SEC teams and the Florida schools likely spend more. So do 2 or 3 Big-10 teams. Oregon could be the biggest spender on the west coast, but USC spends just about as much (contrary to their claims) and Colorado spends more in the portal, or at least did last year. And that Oregon has a budget, makes an offer, and is not inclined to go over their number or to haggle with players, agents, or families'

* 'Phil Knight is still rather reluctant to get fully involved in NIL because he believes he'd have to get into auctions for the same players, the following year. He's not real fond of NIL or the transfer portal but he understands the realities'

* 'a lot of the numbers you hear thrown around about NIL deals made by Oregon are bullshit. A toxic combination of sour grapes and wild exaggeration.'
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I've heard similar things from someone connected to Division Street.

Also, Phil and Division Street do not want him contributing 50% or more of the money in the collective because they believe it would subject them to scrutiny about the "collective" actually being a collective. They believe the University of Miami is going to potentially be in hot water for this reason.
 
Predator said:
This is from someone who isn't affiliated with any particular school.
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I don't know if that statement is true, but I'll take your word for it.

But lets dig into your statement a little more... Some told you three schools are throwing around "crazy money". What exactly is "crazy money"? How does it differ from the University of Miami, Texas, Alabama, Georgia, Ohio St, Michigan, Florida, Florida St, etc?

I'd argue the whole thing is kinda "crazy". I'd also assume if a collective who has less resources than the top 3-5 schools is recklessly spending money, that means they'll fall even further behind because those top schools would be getting way better value. Oregon finished top 5 with 25 recruits and no composit 5*. Oregon's class looks very different from Ole Miss and Missouri whom one might assume may have spent more money for fewer, but higher rated prospects.

Who knows though. My source has no real reason to lie to me but even I wonder if they want a specific narrative out there.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
As many others stated in the comments, is that really any different than what it was before it was "allowed"?
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Yes. Yes it is. Not saying it isn’t a better deal for players and maybe even families of players. There is no question it’s different though. In the past players lost scholarships and even awards. Schools lost eligibility and were sanctioned.
Yes it’s very different.
 
kjironman1 said:
Yes. Yes it is. Not saying it isn’t a better deal for players and maybe even families of players. There is no question it’s different though. In the past players lost scholarships and even awards. Schools lost eligibility and were sanctioned.
Yes it’s very different.
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it’s just publicized now. Always been going on. Now schools don’t have to deal with the charades of it all. To believe it’s not always been a money grab like this is to be naive,
 
MickZagger said:
it’s just publicized now. Always been going on. Now schools don’t have to deal with the charades of it all. To believe it’s not always been a money grab like this is to be naive,
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Reggie Bush might disagree with you. Pete Carrol also.
 
kjironman1 said:
Can you really argue with this?
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I can. I think it is a lazy and ignorant statement by Fentress. Sure some teams might have jumped into the conversation because they bought players. Texas A&M did a couple of years ago...and it didn't work out well. But if you look at the top recruiting classes you will see coaches who have won (GA-AL) and ergo players want to play for them, or coaches who are relentless recruiters. (i.e Lanning and Mario)

Baylor has a shit load of money yet they ranked 67th this year in recruiting? Why is that?
 
Tince said:
I've heard similar things from someone connected to Division Street.

Also, Phil and Division Street do not want him contributing 50% or more of the money in the collective because they believe it would subject them to scrutiny about the "collective" actually being a collective. They believe the University of Miami is going to potentially be in hot water for this reason.
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interesting

I heard that PK has kicked in around 30%, at most (less than 1/3rd was what I was told). I wasn't aware there might be any legal constraints/concerns restricting his contribution. As I said, I was told that he really doesn't like the portal or NIL much, and that might inhibit his contributions more than anything. And, that he prefers long term investing in the UofO; obviously, facilities are at the top of that list. I'm assuming he's not fond of the transitory and short-term nature of NIL deals. Further, I'm guessing he probably doesn't want to spend much time in situations with kids and their families trying to leverage him for more money

I said it before but my take is that NIL was a long-time delayed and well deserved. And NIL is absolutely welded to the transfer portal. I don't begrudge any power or financial rewards athletes are getting. I regret the realignment that cratered the Pac-12, but that was a disaster of the Pac-12's doing and an object lesson for the rest of college athletics. I guess the main lesson is don't be blind, arrogant, and stupid like the Pac-12
 
kjironman1 said:
Reggie Bush might disagree with you. Pete Carrol also.
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This is a reality now and it’s been legalized within college sports. Whether it’s fair or not is an issue people have to deal with themselves. But if you’re a school that has the ability to capitalize off of it they’d be stupid not to.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I can. I think it is a lazy and ignorant statement by Fentress. Sure some teams might have jumped into the conversation because they bought players. Texas A&M did a couple of years ago...and it didn't work out well. But if you look at the top recruiting classes you will see coaches who have won (GA-AL) and ergo players want to play for them, or coaches who are relentless recruiters. (i.e Lanning and Mario)

Baylor has a shit load of money yet they ranked 67th this year in recruiting? Why is that?
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Good point.
 
MickZagger said:
This is a reality now and it’s been legalized within college sports. Whether it’s fair or not is an issue people have to deal with themselves. But if you’re a school that has the ability to capitalize off of it they’d be stupid not to.
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Totally agree. I'm a fan of it. Just creating conversation.
 
The more this kid talks, the less I want him on the team.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nca...t-deion-sanders-flip/7f7efa35b396a87b6dec48ba

Seaton has made some interesting comments in the times he's spoken during the early signing period, saying in an interview with Hayes Fawcett that “Nowadays in sports, you want to maximize your platform" and that "It’s crazy how you can commit to a school and people want you more.”

On Tuesday morning, he posted a well-known meme that indicated his indecision to his account on X (formerly Twitter), sparking hundreds of replies from fans trying to convince him to sign with their school.
 
Natebishop3 said:
The more this kid talks, the less I want him on the team.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nca...t-deion-sanders-flip/7f7efa35b396a87b6dec48ba

Seaton has made some interesting comments in the times he's spoken during the early signing period, saying in an interview with Hayes Fawcett that “Nowadays in sports, you want to maximize your platform" and that "It’s crazy how you can commit to a school and people want you more.”

On Tuesday morning, he posted a well-known meme that indicated his indecision to his account on X (formerly Twitter), sparking hundreds of replies from fans trying to convince him to sign with their school.
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well, according to the main guy at the Duck On3 site, the Ducks are out of it by their own choice. Don't want to be involved with that guy

he also said, by the way, Oregon is still recruiting Walter Nolen but the odds are pretty low they convince him
 
wizenheimer said:
well, according to the main guy at the Duck On3 site, the Ducks are out of it by their own choice. Don't want to be involved with that guy

he also said, by the way, Oregon is still recruiting Walter Nolen but the odds are pretty low they convince him
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Makes sense. Everything Seaton has done has been a big red flag. I don't think he would stay past a year anyway.

Nolen would be nice but I bet the price tag is steep.
 
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