Oregon may be the next state to legalize adult consumption of marijuana

[PDXFonz]

New approach Oregon has been gathering signatures needed to put their measure on the upcoming ballots.

http://newapproachoregon.com/may-25-2014/

In 2012 a different legalization initiative lost at a margin of 53-47%. That initiative was worded very poorly, and did not do a very good job of defining the regulation of marijuana.

This new measure proposed by New approach Oregon is much more specific and polls in April show an increased percentage of Oregonians who support it.

http://www.theweedblog.com/opb-poll-majority-of-oregonians-want-to-legalize-marijuana/


With Oregon being one of the long time forerunners in the medical use, and de-criminalization of marijuana it might come as no surprise that 54% showed support while only 38% opposed.

Granted the sample size in that poll is too small to be sure, it certainly gives the perception that Oregon is poised to be he 3rd state to legalize the adult use of marijuana.

 

[Haakzilla]

God's greatest gift.

 

[MARIS61]

I'm pretty sure it's already legal.

Just about everyone I know has been smoking it in varying amounts and frequencies for 40-50 years now. If it were illegal they surely could not have led the remarkably successful lives they've lived.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I am absolutely not pro drug. However, legalizing marijuana makes so much more sense than not, it's comical. The income for the state, the jobs it creates, the crime it cuts down.

 

[Cryptkeeper]

Random Fact: More people are killed by peanuts than marijuana per year.

 

[RR7]

Random Fact: More people are killed by peanuts than marijuana per year.

Peanuts are a gateway legume.

 

[julius]

I'm pretty sure it's already legal.

Just about everyone I know has been smoking it in varying amounts and frequencies for 40-50 years now. If it were illegal they surely could not have led the remarkably successful lives they've lived.

Odd logic. Alcohol is legal, yet it's ruined many "successful" lives.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

While I don't advocate legal use of weed, I have to agree with y'all that alcohol is more directly dangerous. It's never made sense to me one was and the other not legal.

 

[PDXFonz]

I am absolutely not pro drug. However, legalizing marijuana makes so much more sense than not, it's comical. The income for the state, the jobs it creates, the crime it cuts down.

Precisely. Those are the reasons that will ultimately lead to marijuana being legal on a federal level. That day is still a ways a way though. The government just needs to get a taste of how the city/state economy does after they legalize marijuana.

Colorado recorded something like 7 mil in the first 3 months.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Think how much the state could get if they legalized cocaine . . .

 

[BlazerWookee]

"Medical marijuana," lol...

 

[MarAzul]

While I don't advocate legal use of weed, I have to agree with y'all that alcohol is more directly dangerous. It's never made sense to me one was and the other not legal.

I can't say I total agree with that idea. Some people can handle alcohol, some not well at all.
Those that do not damn near always come from the intuitive character types.

Never knew of a person that was a better engineer or developer from smoking weed. I did know a few that alcohol prevented from being adequate.

If I had my preference, it would not be illegal to have or smoke weed, the penalty for selling it would be worst. Sell it to a kid and they throw away the key.

 

[PDXFonz]

Think how much the state could get if they legalized cocaine . . .

That joke would make sense if weed killed people or contributed to people killing others

 

[The_Lillard_King]

That joke would make sense if weed killed people or contributed to people killing others

A college student visiting Denver jumped to his death from a hotel balcony after eating marijuana-infused cookies



In 2011, 226 children were killed in drunk driving crashes. Of those, 122 (54% percent) were riding with the drunk driver



Will be interesting to study the stats after a few years in Colorado on how many automobile deaths involved a person high on marijuana

 

[PDXFonz]

A college student visiting Denver jumped to his death from a hotel balcony after eating marijuana-infused cookies



In 2011, 226 children were killed in drunk driving crashes. Of those, 122 (54% percent) were riding with the drunk driver



Will be interesting to study the stats after a few years in Colorado on how many automobile deaths involved a person high on marijuana

It won't go up as much as you are probably thinking. The number of pot smokers would logically have to go up in order for that to happen, which it hasn't by much.

 

[MarAzul]

What do pot smoker do for a living? The few I have seen in development, engineers and systems analyst doesn't work out well. So what does?

 

[The_Lillard_King]

It won't go up as much as you are probably thinking. The number of pot smokers would logically have to go up in order for that to happen, which it hasn't by much.

Really? What am I thinking?

I don't think the # of pot smokers have to go up. I think with easy access, higher potency, oils and edibles available over the counter . . . it will be really easy for over consumption and driving.

It may be easy now, but will be even easier once legal.

You assume making cocaine legal will lead to death or people killing others . . . why?

 

[The_Lillard_King]

What do pot smoker do for a living? The few I have seen in development, engineers and systems analyst doesn't work out well. So what does?

I think pot smoking is like drinking alcohol. If you do it on your off time it won't really affect your job. If you start doing it before or while on the job, you will not be doing your job better.

Maybe if you are a stripper . . .

 

[PDXFonz]

What do pot smoker do for a living? The few I have seen in development, engineers and systems analyst doesn't work out well. So what does?

A lot of people are successful in the art industry when they are heavy mj smokers. A lot of writers as well, pretty much jobs that require creativity and have loose(r) timestraints.

 

[barfo]

What do pot smoker do for a living? The few I have seen in development, engineers and systems analyst doesn't work out well. So what does?

Writing crazy-ass messages to politicians in garbled English would be one thing.

barfo

 

[MarAzul]

A lot of people are successful in the art industry when they are heavy mj smokers. A lot of writers as well, pretty much jobs that require creativity and have loose(r) timestraints.

Ah time, I see. Yeah system designers never quite get there on the weed. If they were on their schedule instead of the project schedule, no sweat huh?

Reminds me of Cheech with his buddy speeding. We're not speeding man! we're parked.

 

[PDXFonz]

Really? What am I thinking?

I don't think the # of pot smokers have to go up. I think with easy access, higher potency, oils and edibles available over the counter . . . it will be really easy for over consumption and driving.

It may be easy now, but will be even easier once legal.

You assume making cocaine legal will lead to death or people killing others . . . why?

It's all about the drugs effects on the brain man. I gotta think you are still joking around, because comparing marijuana use to cocaine use and believing they are synonymous is highly naive.

 

[Mediocre Man]

A college student visiting Denver jumped to his death from a hotel balcony after eating marijuana-infused cookies



In 2011, 226 children were killed in drunk driving crashes. Of those, 122 (54% percent) were riding with the drunk driver



Will be interesting to study the stats after a few years in Colorado on how many automobile deaths involved a person high on marijuana

Again, I am very anti drug, but I could find thousands of articles about college kids killing themselves while drunk.

 

[blue32]

Writing crazy-ass messages to politicians in garbled English would be one thing.

barfo

My last job, many Dev's and even a sys-architect were into marijuana. Very successful people. Albeit they were responsible when they smoked. Just like alcohol users need to be responsible when they drink. Hell, I even have a buddy (who lives in WA) that is a Chiro, he smokes. (smoked all his adult life...).

So, to me, it's all about if you have an addiction gene or not, your ability to understand actions and consequences, etc.

I don't smoke, never liked the 'feeling' but I don't see it as any more dangerous or scary than booze. In fact, I think alcohol is a much much more dangerous substance.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

It's all about the drugs effects on the brain man. I gotta think you are still joking around, because comparing marijuana use to cocaine use and believing they are synonymous is highly naive.

I'm messing around as there is an obvious difference between coke and pot. But I was addressing the argument of legalizing mj because state makes money. I was trying to question whether it's right for a state to create a law that makes them a drug dealer. If the state has no morals and legalizes mj for revenue, why stop there?

Legalizing mj will lead to increased deaths, just as legalized alcohol does. If the argument is freedom of choice and gov't not telling us how to live, I'm all for legalizing mj. If the justification is for increased state revenues, I think that is a wrong reason to legalize it.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

It wouldn't surprise me if employers still banned employees from smoking mj. It makes your memory absolute Shit. One of my buddies (who was a smart guy) turned into an everyday user and it's blatant how it's affected him. Having a convo with him nowadays is like trying to talk to a toddler.

 

[blue32]

It wouldn't surprise me if employers still banned employees from smoking mj. It makes your memory absolute Shit. One of my buddies (who was a smart guy) turned into an everyday user and it's blatant how it's affected him. Having a convo with him nowadays is like trying to talk to a toddler.

Depends on the consumption and personal makeup. I know various people that do it sparingly, or once a night after work, who are very successful people. Just like any drug (including alcohol) overuse/abuse leads to issues. How many people can drink everyday and also not sound like a toddler?

 

[MarAzul]

Depends on the consumption and personal makeup. I know various people that do it sparingly, or once a night after work, who are very successful people. Just like any drug (including alcohol) overuse/abuse leads to issues. How many people can drink everyday and also not sound like a toddler?

It's not at all like alcohol. Alcohol burns off in your body in hours, the stuff you get from pot
stays in your blood for days. So if you huff that stuff nightly after work, your fucked up
around the clock. The results are apparent at work if you need to produce with brain power.
The guy that gets half on is ass in the evening on alcohol doesn't have that problem the next day until he does it so long he is hurting full time until he gets more. Then he can't function on the job either.

 

[PDXFonz]

It's not at all like alcohol. Alcohol burns off in your body in hours, the stuff you get from pot
stays in your blood for days. So if you huff that stuff nightly after work, your fucked up
around the clock. The results are apparent at work if you need to produce with brain power.
The guy that gets half on is ass in the evening on alcohol doesn't have that problem the next day until he does it so long he is hurting full time until he gets more. Then he can't function on the job either.

I don't know man I've had days where I feel drunk the entire day after. Haven't had that bad of a hangover with marijuana.

I agree with the majority though. You just need to be responsible about how you use it. Don't smoke and drive, don't drink and drive.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

It's not at all like alcohol. Alcohol burns off in your body in hours, the stuff you get from pot
stays in your blood for days. So if you huff that stuff nightly after work, your fucked up
around the clock. The results are apparent at work if you need to produce with brain power.
The guy that gets half on is ass in the evening on alcohol doesn't have that problem the next day until he does it so long he is hurting full time until he gets more. Then he can't function on the job either.

Not sure where you get your impressions of the effects of mj, but your way off. While the by-products of THC (active ingredient) stays in your system for a long time (stored in fat cells), the mind altering effects are short lived and certainly does not last for days.

I think it is safe to say that alcohol causes more violence, deaths and guessing job loss than marijuana.

And if it comes down to addiction, I would much rather be addicted to marijuana (psychological addiction) than to be a alcoholic (physical addiction).

I don't think alcohol should be banned (think of all the money the state losses ), but alcohol is a drug that causes more problems in society than mj.