OT: CP3 requests trade to NYK

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NY already has two max contract guys... getting a 3rd wont be easy. What do they have to offer New Orleans? Just last season they gave up good young players and draft picks to Denver.
 
agreed. And the article says as much.

But it sure is grim for how the inmates are gonna be allowed to run the asylum for another half decade at least.
 
CP3 should convince D.Howard to stay in Orlando and go play with him. Solid team/good with CP3, nice weather, and no income tax in Florida.
 
BeerBoy said:
NY already has two max contract guys... getting a 3rd wont be easy. What do they have to offer New Orleans? Just last season they gave up good young players and draft picks to Denver.
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They have "the NBA owns the Hornets" to offer New Orleans.
 
Now if we could just figure out how to get Durant, Rose, and Blake Griffin on the Lakers, everything will be golden!
 
What this all means? They didn't fix the system in the new CBA and they really had no intention of doing so.
 
Wheels said:
wants Howard to figure out how to play together also.

Yeah the NBA is gonna be a lot of fun this way.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-chris_paul_hornets_knicks_nba_trade_120111
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I say get some value Oreleans and let NYC havem. CP3's game is built on speed and he has a bad wheel that I doubt hold up that much longer. I think he could blow up like Roy or close enought that him signing a big contract with NYC would be a fitting clusterfukbomb. I want to see these super teams self destruct
 
I fucking hate these egotistical 'stars'.

He's basically telling the Hornets to take a bunch of crap so he can play with Melo and Amare and get more money.

If he waits to sign outright this summer he'll make $30m less than what he'd get in an extend-and-trade.
 
Blazinaway said:
I say get some value Oreleans and let NYC havem. CP3's game is built on speed and he has a bad wheel that I doubt hold up that much longer. I think he could blow up like Roy or close enought that him signing a big contract with NYC would be a fitting clusterfukbomb. I want to see these super teams self destruct
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:cheers:
of course not if we have a Super Team in PDX!!!
 
BeerBoy said:
:cheers:
of course not if we have a Super Team in PDX!!!
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If Larry pulled some strings we could have the anti-NYK superteam:

Rondo - Batum - Aldridge - Oden

All play high-level defense.

Melo and Amare are among the worst at their positions.

:devilwink:
 
Knicks should trade Melo for CP3. That would be hilarious.
Russ Bengston tweets: "In this video, the part of the city of New Orleans is played by Julius Hodge":

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The nba is a joke, if only we had a pro baseball or football team. Even the nhl would be fine at this point, i really can't stand these "stars".
 
Yeah, I agree. The entire NBA outside of two cities are watching this.

I feel bad for the Hornet and Nugget fans. Can you imagine how it'd feel to watch your franchise player, who's just entering his prime, leave for the Knicks?

Fuck CP3 and Melo.
 
The Knicks should just buy the Hornets and take their players. What is this league coming to?
 
Like it or not, the Miami "superteam" was actually good for the NBA. The league got far more coverage in non-basketball-related media than it has in years. Revenue was up. A lot of individual owners hate the idea, but for players and many of the owners it isn't so bad.

I personally think it fucking sucks. It's turning the league into even more of a WWE-level "sport" than it already was. There's even less incentive for a hardcore fan like me to get that inspired about the season. But for the superficial "what's playing on tv--oh yeah! Chris Paul is playing with Mello and Amare!" audience, it's great.

People have been arguing for years that the league needs contraction. I personally never agreed with the notion, but that's what we're effectively getting. A dozen teams (including maybe eventually ours) are getting relegated to "Washington Generals" status as a couple teams get to be the Globe Trotters. Why shut down a franchise in such a business model? Just ship your Globe Trotter teams around to keep interest up in the league, and really cash in when the Globe Trotter teams face each other. The Washington Generals teams get to be the farm teams for future Globe Trotter teams.

You still have some "middle class" teams (Dallas, Portland, Clippers, Spurs, etc) which are also great farm teams, and they can occasionally catch lightening in a bottle and work the David vs Goliath story.

But they sell best as one-hit-wonders. Nobody wants the Pistons or Mavs to get multiple rings. The Spurs proved that's horrible for NBA ratings. The NBA makes the most money when it emphasizes stars, not teams. The best way to sell superstars is to have superstar teams.
 
This is a weird situation, particularly with the NBA owning the Hornets. Also, now the Hornets can't really expect value from any team other than the Knicks, unless the GM/owner is prepared to take a huge gamble. The Celtics have already offered Rondo, but Paul has said he won't re-sign in Boston. But then again, the Knicks can just wait (they'll have cap space next year, right?) so they don't need to try too hard, and anyway, they don't have anybody to offer (I doubt the 70-year-old Chauncey entices NO much).
Who could risk trading for Paul? Obviously the Lakers. Perhaps the Clippers (but who would they offer?) Who else has a big enough ego that they think they could satisfy Chris Paul?

And, of course, there is the added factor that Chris Paul only has one working knee...
 
To follow up on mook's musings:
Contraction should be combined with the creation of a new league that pays better than the D-league and worse than the NBA. So, maybe 20 NBA teams, and 20 teams in this new league, and... have relegation/promotion battles, like in European "soccer". Trust me, those are AWESOME: they're about the only thing that makes being a fan of a team like Southampton, Stoke or Leeds United (let alone Exeter) exciting. They allow crappy teams to feel good about themselves, as they dominate the lower league. Meanwhile, instead of tanking for a draft pick, the bottom-feeders of the top league are scrapping like hell to avoid relegation.
Everybody says it could never work in the NBA, but I don't really see why not. The Premier League is bigger business than the NBA (in fact, is almost certainly the most popular sports league in the world), and it works there.
 
They can form their super teams in the eastern conference all they want

Just don't bring it to the west
 
I love the Premier League, and their model. I just don't trust Americans to embrace such a major change.
 
mook said:
You still have some "middle class" teams (Dallas, Portland, Clippers, Spurs, etc) which are also great farm teams, and they can occasionally catch lightening in a bottle and work the David vs Goliath story.
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Hmm. Since when have Dallas, Portland or the Spurs been a farm team for another team? There's actually been a surprising degree of loyalty in those teams. And, to be fair, I think there's a provision in the CBA that allows teams to sign a "star player" to a better contract than they could get elsewhere (and the old Bird Rule did that, too). It's ironic that they're encouraging "loyalty" with more money, and people like LeBron, who leave for less money get demonized for wanting to go where they want and be with their friends.

(Of course the Clippers are everybody's farm team. As Frank Isola tweeted - is it too early to start talking about Blake Griffin forcing his way to the Knicks?)

And for all New York's allure - when did it last have a good team?
 
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great points rasta. They did try to make it more enticing for one player to stay with their current franchise. Not quite the level of a franchise tag, but a big financial boost. And guys are sacrificing money for a chance to win/play with friends. It's actually very funny to me that a group of athletes that for so long have been criticized for just being about the money are now criticized for taking less money and wanting to play with their friends.
And, I imagine, that those criticisms would never be made if there was, say, no salary cap, and Paul Allen was able to buy up every one of those guys and did.
 
Weav said:
I love the Premier League, and their model. I just don't trust Americans to embrace such a major change.
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What do you mean? I don't think it's a fan issue, I think the current NBA teams (especially the Clippers - but it would serve Sterling right) would squeal about it because once you get demoted your team won't be hosting LeBron James and Kobe Bryant any time soon, and fans are much less likely to show up. So you'd need to shed players to stay profitable. But that would make the other twenty teams better, and the quality of NBA play would rise.

But wouldn't it be great to punish the Clippers for their policy of sucking but making a profit?
 
trade him to fucking toronto, fuck him

if teams called these players bluffs once in awhile things would be so much easier. keep him, and let him walk for less money if he wants.

you really think cp3 would leave 30 something MILLION on the table with his knees? no fucking way
 
Wheels said:
agreed. And the article says as much.

But it sure is grim for how the inmates are gonna be allowed to run the asylum for another half decade at least.
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So just cause they're black they have to be inmates!!!!!????
 
3RA1N1AC said:
trade him to fucking toronto, fuck him

if teams called these players bluffs once in awhile things would be so much easier. keep him, and let him walk for less money if he wants.

you really think cp3 would leave 30 something MILLION on the table with his knees? no fucking way
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+1. With the garbage the Knicks have to offer, I would imagine there'd be a few teams able to offer just as much that would be fine with him being a 1 year rental, with a potential push for a title, and maybe you sign him in offseason, or S&T.
 
Trade him to Boston for Rondo or let him take what little cap space the Knicks will have next Summer (2012).
 
boston wont trade rondo without being able to extend cp3

but yes, make these fuckers put their money where their mouth is
 
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