Political Ads Thread

[Denny Crane]

Sorry, G0D, but Susie is pro abortion. You cannot buy into the every sperm is sacred bit (the bible and its interpretation by the pope) and also believe the opposite. It's one or the other.

There are consequences to being pro choice that you cannot shirk, wish away, or pretend don't exist because you put a poorly reasoned disclaimer on it.

1.4M abortions performed last year. Because we pro choice people fight every "reasonable" restriction opponents try to put on it. Because we want it cheap. Because we want insurance to pay for it. Because we want it convenient.

Like i said, I think every one of those 1.4M were justified and good. I am for every one of them. 1.4M is the consequence of choice. I shudder to think of the consequences of those being prevented somehow.

 

[Further]

I disagree, Susie's stance might have the same effect as being pro abortion, but she is not pro abortion. She does not want women to choose abortion and would be pleased if the numbers went down or it magically ended, without rights being affected.

A judge who lets a murderer off because of an illegal search is not pro-murder.

 

[Denny Crane]

I disagree, Susie's stance might have the same effect as being pro abortion, but she is not pro abortion. She does not want women to choose abortion and would be pleased if the numbers went down or it magically ended, without rights being affected.

A judge who lets a murderer off because of an illegal search is not pro-murder.

It is really tough to prove by analogy.

If she did not want women to choose abortion, she would favor outlawing abortion.

She cannot be both.

 

[Further]

It is really tough to prove by analogy.

If she did not want women to choose abortion, she would favor outlawing abortion.

She cannot be both.

I don't know what else to say than you are wrong. She is both.

Some people on welfare vote republican
Some doctors smoke cigarettes
Some environmentalists drive gas guzzlers
Some antigay preachers chug cock
Some ...

I suppose if the most important thing in Susie's life was stopping abortion and all her thoughts and decisions were built around a paradigm of reducing abortions then she should not be pro choice. But in the real world people have competing thoughts and belief systems whirling around their heads. The majority of Catholics in the US use contraception. Why? Because there are competing ideas in their heads and they construct a hodgepodge framework of beliefs that suit them as individuals.

 

[julius]

It is really tough to prove by analogy.

If she did not want women to choose abortion, she would favor outlawing abortion.

She cannot be both.

Yes she can. I don't want people to drink beer, but I'm not in favor of outlawing beer.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Yes she can. I don't want people to drink beer, but I'm not in favor of outlawing beer.

Denny isn't in favor of smoking but he really wants a cigarette.

 

[Further]

Yes she can. I don't want people to drink beer, but I'm not in favor of outlawing beer.

On a side note to this thread
Why don't you want people to drink beer?

 

[julius]

On a side note to this thread
Why don't you want people to drink beer?

(it's an example, not real life)

 

[Further]

(it's an example, not real life)

Thank god!

I mean, thank ME

 

[BrianFromWA]

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[PapaG]

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[PapaG]

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[Haakzilla]

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[MARIS61]

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[MARIS61]

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[MARIS61]

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[Denny Crane]

D'oh. Fact-checking again, and Maris is wrong. The claims in his videos are lies, as well.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...acare-cuts-medicare-by-716-billion-heres-how/

As to how the Affordable Care Act actually gets to $716 billion in Medicare savings, that’s a bit more complicated. John McDonough did the best job explaining it in his 2011 book, “Inside National Health Reform.” There, he looked at all the various Medicare cuts Democrats made to pay for the Affordable Care Act.
The majority of the cuts, as you can see in this chart below, come from reductions in how much Medicare reimburses hospitals and private health insurance companies.

 

[maxiep]

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Very funny! Repped.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

 

[MARIS61]

D'oh. Fact-checking again, and Maris is wrong. The claims in his videos are lies, as well.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...acare-cuts-medicare-by-716-billion-heres-how/

As to how the Affordable Care Act actually gets to $716 billion in Medicare savings, that’s a bit more complicated. John McDonough did the best job explaining it in his 2011 book, “Inside National Health Reform.” There, he looked at all the various Medicare cuts Democrats made to pay for the Affordable Care Act.
The majority of the cuts, as you can see in this chart below, come from reductions in how much Medicare reimburses hospitals and private health insurance companies.

That they plan to stop overpaying the medical profession disproves Republican lies, not anything that I posted.

 

[MARIS61]

Just another example of how ronnie raygun has bankrupted our country.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Just another example of how ronnie raygun has bankrupted our country.

Not that I agree or disagree, but it looks like a big spike occurred in 1988-1992, and another in 1994-2000. Blame Reagan? Looks like Bush42 and Clinton to my eyes.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Not that I agree or disagree, but it looks like a big spike occurred in 1988-1992, and another in 1994-2000. Blame Reagan? Looks like Bush42 and Clinton to my eyes.

all the "war" on drugs has done is clog up our courts and prisons, while not actually doing a fucking thing concerning addiction, costing the us billions FOR NOTHING

its a scam for privatized prisons and unicor so they can keep filling wall mart with shit that says "made in the usa"

we have more people in prison in this country right now than there was at any time in the gulags of stalins russia, basically the most intensive, all encompassing, corrupt and nonsensical prison state in the history of the world

 

[BrianFromWA]

all the "war" on drugs has done is clog up our courts and prisons, while not actually doing a fucking thing concerning addiction, costing the us billions FOR NOTHING

its a scam for privatized prisons and unicor so they can keep filling wall mart with shit that says "made in the usa"

we have more people in prison in this country right now than there was at any time in the gulags of stalins russia, basically the most intensive, all encompassing, corrupt and nonsensical prison state in the history of the world

I call BS. To be accurate, there are 2.3M prisoners in the US in 2010. Meanwhile, 14M Russians were sent to the gulag between 1941 and 1949, where half of them died.. (Pohl, Otto, Ethnic Cleansing in the USSR, 1937–1949,) In addition, he also murdered about 700k people in the 1937 purge alone.

Bring up the cost of the War on Drugs--that's fine. But don't try to make stuff up to further the story.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I call BS. To be accurate, there are 2.3M prisoners in the US in 2010. Meanwhile, 14M Russians were sent to the gulag between 1941 and 1949, where half of them died.. (Pohl, Otto, Ethnic Cleansing in the USSR, 1937–1949,) In addition, he also murdered about 700k people in the 1937 purge alone.

Bring up the cost of the War on Drugs--that's fine. But don't try to make stuff up to further the story.

im sorry, were you going to refute my point with facts? did you actually have a link of them having more than 2.3 million at one time?

from the wikipedia article you quickly scanned and copied from to try and sound like you knew what you were talking about

yeah not so much

so basically, bring up the cost of the war on drugs--that's fine. but don't try to make stuff up to further YOUR narrative.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

and really, trying to squash my point with a false technicality is weak as shit, even if it were true

"actually, we are about the same as the gulags, not more!"

give me a fucking break

 

[3RA1N1AC]

yeah that war on drugs is a real hoot, a steadily climbing imprisoned nation

 

[BrianFromWA]

yeah that war on drugs is a real hoot, a steadily climbing imprisoned nation

Moral of the story: don't want to go to prison? Stop using illegal drugs.

Two points: One, I just pulled one particular fact b/c you compared them to the fucking gulag. Two, if our prisons were less like cable-tv-run motels and more like gulags, we wouldn't have 2.3M motherfuckers in them.

Even the Netherlands realized that having a free marijuana policy blew up in their face when a "criminal element" came in, and so they started cracking down on who could buy drugs, enforcing registration laws and limiting demand. How on earth can there be a criminal element if drugs were legal??!?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

haha

yeah "dont do drugs! just say no!"

the point is, that is a stupid fucking idea, and it does nothing

and i wouldnt expect you to see injustice in a system such as:

build a prison
charge money from the state to fill it
spend millions lobbying for stricter drug laws
profit
more people in jail, more money they make

but i thought id give it a shot

 

[3RA1N1AC]

and are you advocating we take our national policy cues from the netherlands? how very bohemian of you!