Portland trying to get PAUL MILLSAP!

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Nikolokolus said:
Yeah ... I can defintely see that. I'd do that deal. Both tems would basiically be giving up a great defensive player at a position of less need to add a defensive player at a position of great need

The 13 man depth chart would look something like this:
Blake/Bayless/Mills
Roy/Rudy
Battier/Rudy/Martell(?)
LMA/Milsap/Cunningham?
Oden/Pendergraph
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What happened to Batum? Surely you didn't send him with Przybilla for Battier? Even in hypothetical world, I'd be outraged at that trade you executed.
 
Well I'll say it . . . I don't get it and I don't like it. Milsap is a PF. I don't want to see Aldridge play anything else besides PF (he is going to be an all star PF). Milsap will need minutes and Nate will play with lineups to get Milsap more time. We are already doing it with Roy and Rudy . . . do we want the best and second best players on the bench backing up Roy and Aldridge?

I think the Blazers are trying to force someone's hand.
 
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How is this a buyers market?

Everyone is hoping it is but

A.) There's really not that many players out there in general

and

B.) People like Bargs are getting 5 yr/50 mil, Hedo gets 50+ mil... Ben Gordon 55 mil, CV gets like 40? mil...


It's not a buyers market.
 
PapaG said:
There had better be a secondary move involving a trade, because wasting cap space on a back-up PF in a buyer's market would be a terrible move.
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Well you would hope. This only would address a secondary weakness on the team in my opinion. Portland would definitly be a top rebounding team in the league then though, which should in itself, win a lot of games for you.
 
BengalDuck said:
How is this a buyers market?

Everyone is hoping it is but

A.) There's really not that many players out there in general

and

B.) People like Bargs are getting 5 yr/50 mil, Hedo gets 50+ mil... Ben Gordon 55 mil, CV gets like 40? mil...


It's not a buyers market.
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The economy makes it a buyer's market, and patience makes it more of a buyer's market.
 
hasoos said:
Well you would hope. This only would address a secondary weakness on the team in my opinion. Portland would definitly be a top rebounding team in the league then though, which should in itself, win a lot of games for you.
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Portland is already the top rebounding team in the league by both % of rebounds and rebound margin.
 
Before people poo-poo the notion of using LMA at center, stop and think.

Last season, when LMA played center that meant Outlaw was at PF.

Reread that last sentence slowly. That tandem was good for scoring, but was sub-par for defense and rebounding.

LMA+Outlaw...didn't work. LMA+PM....much better balanced and can work!
 
oldmangrouch said:
Before people poo-poo the notion of using LMA at center, stop and think.

Last season, when LMA played center that meant Outlaw was at PF.

Reread that last sentence slowly. That tandem was good for scoring, but was sub-par for defense and rebounding.

LMA+Outlaw...didn't work. LMA+PM....much better balanced and can work!
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Excellent point. Outlaw or Frye playing 4 alongside LMA is a lot different than Millsap.
 
Minstrel said:
Now that's burning through his Microsoft money at a fevered pace. But if Allen was willing, I'd love to gamble on Deng and also pick up Hinrich.
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He gave KP the green light to spend right? I don't mind :)

Denny Crane said:
This kind of trade proposal is nuts.

More like Joel and Blake for Hinrich might get Chicago's interest.
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It's Nuts that Chicago signed Chandler to a long term deal as their future 5 then traded him for expiring contracts the next summer when they realized they overpaid. This would be a similar principle in a deal for Deng.

Maybe that trade would have to be tweaked but the premise seems very plausible with Chicago's thrifty owners, a severely overpaid player who has performance and injury concerns, plus on the other side the richest owner in the NBA.
 
PapaG said:
Portland is already the top rebounding team in the league by both % of rebounds and rebound margin.
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For the season, that was true. IIRC, if you separate out the games Oden was hurt, there were a number where we got killed on the boards. That was the one area where Oden's contribution was undeniable.

Given past history, I would hate to see the team rely on Oden and Joel being healthy for 82 games.
 
As I go back to the article and look at the wording in the headline (which I know by now that Quick does not write :confused:) I am stuck on the word "preparing". It seems like since the offer has yet to be made, it is more of a shot across the bow of the Jazz. I am starting to think that this is more of a threat to move along a potential three way deal with the Jazz/Bulls/Blazers. I guess we will know very soon.
 
PapaG said:
There had better be a secondary move involving a trade, because wasting cap space on a back-up PF in a buyer's market would be a terrible move.
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Is this really a buyers market? Not much to buy out there from what i can see.
 
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You could start LA and Milsap together...however, he'd be a GREAT trading piece in exchange for a SF.

Fat chance that Utah will let him go, but if that were to occur, we could swing him for a player like Gerald Wallace.
 
Re: remove

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Can we still cut Travis Outlaw? Cut him, so that we could offer Millsap 11 mil instead of 7.7. He'd either work out great for us like he did in Utah with him and Boozer, or he'd be a terrific trading piece. Much more value than Outlaw.
 
one of the biggest reasons LMA gave up 22PER at C was that when he played C, Frye or Outlaw played PF. Aldridge was given zero help. With Paul at PF, I think that LMA will be a much better defender at C just knowing that Paul can handle his man and will box out and rebound.

EDIT: jumped ahead to post this then kept reading and found others also posted similar.
 
Sinobas said:
Can we still cut Travis Outlaw? Cut him, so that we could offer Millsap 11 mil instead of 7.7. He'd either work out great for us like he did in Utah with him and Boozer, or he'd be a terrific trading piece. Much more value than Outlaw.
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No. Cutting a player on contract does not make his salary come off the cap.

barfo
 
PapaG said:
Portland is already the top rebounding team in the league by both % of rebounds and rebound margin.
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Despite that point, we still had problems with Outlaw or Frye played PF. We were the best in the league, but we could be even BETTER. Paul would also provide us with a great inside scoring presence. Signing him would really be a no lose situation, because many teams covet a PF like him.
 
barfo said:
No. Cutting a player on contract does not make his salary come off the cap.

barfo
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But Travis and Blake had some sort of team option thingy this year...and we could cut them and free up that space, remember?
 
Sinobas said:
But Travis and Blake had some sort of team option thingy this year...and we could cut them and free up that space, remember?
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The team option was built into their contracts.
 
Sinobas said:
But Travis and Blake had some sort of team option thingy this year...and we could cut them and free up that space, remember?
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Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that was valid until July 1st, at which point their contracts became guaranteed.
 
Sinobas said:
But Travis and Blake had some sort of team option thingy this year...and we could cut them and free up that space, remember?
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We could have, but we didn't, and I believe the deadline to do so was June 30.

barfo
 
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