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theprunetang said:
Ok. I take back all of my recent love for Pat. I always go full on Mags during the off-season, hoping to will greatness into existence. Once the first preseason game is played I snap back to reality. Oh, there went gravity. Pat needs to go back home to mom's spaghetti.

Jake is a fluid athlete and can handle the ball. But he can't shoot worth a beer shit.

Meyers wasn't terrible. He looked alright.

The rookies looked good. Collins next to Nurkic is going to look really good for a long time to come.

Give Briscoe the 15th spot. He has the fire to make it in this league.
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I'm kinda in the same boat but with Layman. Last year I was super hyped on him. This year I still believed he'd improve, but his shot is still awful and it makes me think he's just mentally weak. The guy shot it well in college there's no reason why he should look this bad.
 
Scalma said:
I'm kinda in the same boat but with Layman. Last year I was super hyped on him. This year I still believed he'd improve, but his shot is still awful and it makes me think he's just mentally weak. The guy shot it well in college there's no reason why he should look this bad.
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Well, we are fans. We like to see the good in our players. And I do see some good in both of these guys. But, they look rubbish right now. They have until the end of pre-season to get my dick hard. After that, they are just forever flaccid empty jerseys.
 
Based on this game alone...

We have a Center rotation that will mostly be Nurkic and Leonard with Collins picking up some small ball minutes.

Power forward is gonna be a jam. Swanigan and Collins I would feel comfortable with either... then there is Vonleh. Ohh and Ed Davis.

I doubt we see Aminu at the 4 very much. But with Turner starting and Harkless coming off bench again a jam.

FWIW Quck is on talking ball and the rest of the guys on the board are rolling their eyes at most of what he is saying, lol.
 
What does Jason quick knows anyway. But what I heard and seen one of them might be the starting 4 open the season. Collins need cut down on his fouls but that will come in time. Leonard didn't look bad but he still might not be good to play in front of these two. Thursday will be a good test for these to rookie against toronto.
 
Scalma said:
Shumpert
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It's too big to actually happen this close to the start of the season, but I would be thrilled with something like this:

Leonard/Aminu/Napier to Cleveland
Shumpert/Jefferson/Frye to Portland

We rebalance the roster, clear some time for youngsters, add two high quality vets on little or expiring deals, and they drop some dead (or soon to be underutilized weight), add a big who can shoot in Leonard to play the Frye/Love role on offense (and I think he could be decent in an offense where everything is created for him) and a tough defender to throw at KD in Aminu.

We may have to sweeten somehow for them to take on Leonard :/

Say we cut Connaughton/Layman, I like this balance:

littles: Dame/CJ/Shump/Briscoe
wings: Turner/Harkless/Jefferson
bigs: Nurkic/Davis/Swanigan/Collins/Frye/Vonleh
 
Notes after tonights game:

Waive Patty C

Sign Briscoe

Morrow is the worst defensive player I have ever seen

Wish there was a spot for Goodwin his game is looking good

Meyers is looking better

Biggie should be the starting PF

Turner should come off the bench (Blazers startes him at the 3 and had him bringing it up the court, but it wasn't working to well)

Harkless should start at the 3.

Nurks a beast - liking his jumper

Collins will be good, needs some time.
 
Chris Craig said:
Notes after tonights game:

Waive Patty C

Sign Briscoe

Morrow is the worst defensive player I have ever seen

Wish there was a spot for Goodwin his game is looking good

Meyers is looking better

Biggie should be the starting PF

Turner should come off the bench (Blazers startes him at the 3 and had him bringing it up the court, but it wasn't working to well)

Harkless should start at the 3.

Nurks a beast - liking his jumper

Collins will be good, needs some time.
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Agree with all of this except Meyers is still trash and will always be trash. He simply has no clue how to play the game. Pat C must have revealing photos of Soap Opera star Neil Olshey. Because it's an embarrassment he has a roster spot on an NBA team. Briscoe is head and shoulders better then him.
 
Chris Craig said:
Notes after tonights game:

Waive Patty C

Sign Briscoe

Morrow is the worst defensive player I have ever seen

Wish there was a spot for Goodwin his game is looking good

Meyers is looking better

Biggie should be the starting PF

Turner should come off the bench (Blazers startes him at the 3 and had him bringing it up the court, but it wasn't working to well)

Harkless should start at the 3.

Nurks a beast - liking his jumper

Collins will be good, needs some time.
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Although it is just one game....I agree with most of this.
 
Loved the rooks, but honestly nothing really surprised me. I'm just impressed they were able to do what they did in college so confidently in their first real NBA action.

Caleb will need to continue to get more crafty with his mid post and inside game, staying active with his hands and feet when he's playing post D and limiting his turnovers (he's been turnover prone his whole career). And yes, the way he's changed his body over the last four years has been remarkable, but he will need to continue to improve here. He's actually pretty ok laterally, but isn't much of a presence while moving backwards and struggles a bit changing direction/ends of the floor. He has the foundation to be a valuable offensive weapon, but his overall impact will largely depend on how he's able to deal with downhill scorers and spacing bigs defensively.

With Zach, he really is the whole package defensively. The way he moves at seven feet is pretty special and he just has a great combination of instincts, IQ and mentality for a 19 year old. His pure physical tools probably limit his ceiling on D, but Cody Zeller with center size is a realistic outcome for him and that gives him top 30 upside on that end. Once he learns where his offense is going to come from and gets more comfortable with ball pressure and the physicality of the NBA game, he's going to be a very valuable two-way big.
 
Sinobas said:
Whoever is responsible for posting this game's box score to the internet must have fallen asleep. It's not on any website.
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The stat system broke down. The stat board in the arena didn't change after the first quarter.
 
boredinsalem said:
It's too big to actually happen this close to the start of the season, but I would be thrilled with something like this:

Leonard/Aminu/Napier to Cleveland
Shumpert/Jefferson/Frye to Portland

We rebalance the roster, clear some time for youngsters, add two high quality vets on little or expiring deals, and they drop some dead (or soon to be underutilized weight), add a big who can shoot in Leonard to play the Frye/Love role on offense (and I think he could be decent in an offense where everything is created for him) and a tough defender to throw at KD in Aminu.

We may have to sweeten somehow for them to take on Leonard :/

Say we cut Connaughton/Layman, I like this balance:

littles: Dame/CJ/Shump/Briscoe
wings: Turner/Harkless/Jefferson
bigs: Nurkic/Davis/Swanigan/Collins/Frye/Vonleh
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The real GM of the Cavs LeBron James loves Jefferson. He's not going anywhere.
 
We live in 2017 and still can't get a box score hours after the game. What a shit show.
I feel cheated.
 
I thought Dame showed a lot of effort on defense.

CJ not as much

Harkless is a better fit with the starters than Turner

Collins is twice as good as Leonar_, and still plays WAY too fast on offense

Swanigan looked good away from the basket, but his footwork down low needs developing

Nurk was once again Chuck Norrisesque

Oh Pat.......

Layman pisses me off because he's a good basketball player, but you can't play him if the defense doesn't have to guard him

Meyers is still hot garbage

Wasn't a huge fan of Briscoe's game. He has awful footwirk on defense

Davis, Aminu, etc were solid
 
I really liked this starting lineup. The rookies did well. Leonard did well. Even in a loss, the potential of this team is evident. It's preseason, the starters didn't even play half time. We're good.
 
Mediocre Man said:
I thought Dame showed a lot of effort on defense.

CJ not as much

Harkless is a better fit with the starters than Turner

Collins is twice as good as Leonar_, and still plays WAY too fast on offense
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totally agree with these. Collins looks like he rushes things on offense, especially dribbling. Unaware that people will knock the ball out of his hands easily. I think once the game slows down for him (in that regard) he'll be a solid contributor to the team.
Swanigan looked good away from the basket, but his footwork down low needs developing

Nurk was once again Chuck Norrisesque
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Caleb looked like he was a 5 year vet, in a way. while the form is kind of odd looking, I almost feel more comfortable with him shooting it than Aminu, Pat, Jake and Turner.

Oh Pat.......

Layman pisses me off because he's a good basketball player, but you can't play him if the defense doesn't have to guard him

Meyers is still hot garbage

Wasn't a huge fan of Briscoe's game. He has awful footwirk on defense

Davis, Aminu, etc were solid
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Agreed about Pat and Jake. Pat actually reminds me of a friend of mine from grade school. Not that Shawn was athletic or resembled Pat's game in basketball, he just physically resembles Shawn in my brain. So when I see Pat playing, it makes me think of Shawn and how he just looked like someone who while playing basketball, sometimes looked like someone who had never seen or heard of the game of basketball.

Meyers wasn't hot garbage, but I think there was a little bit of the old Meyers creeping in there. I think he's still over thinking things (he might over think things for the rest of his career). He still looks stiff. It was improvement from last year, but considering Caleb and Zach were much more active and looked like they belonged, it made Meyers performance look so-so.
 
Caleb reminds me of a throwback 90s player. He's got that old school Elden Campbell/PJ Brown etc etc big man shot.
 
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