Trade Idea Realistic trade options for summer of 2023 (4 Viewers)

[Mediocre Man]

What about Ant/Nas/#3? I hate it because I think Brandon Miller will be much better than Bridges eventually but if we are forced to upgrade immediately I think Brooklyn might pull that.

I hope we hit #1 so bad so we aren’t forced into trading the pick or Sharpe.

Brooklyns goal is to find a player that will be as good as Bridges. Ant is not as good as most here think. Nas is worthless, so Brooklyn would need to be convinced Miller will be as good as Bridges……I’m not making that trade if I’m Brooklyn

 

[tykendo]

Brooklyns goal is to find a player that will be as good as Bridges. Ant is not as good as most here think. Nas is worthless, so Brooklyn would need to be convinced Miller will be as good as Bridges……I’m not making that trade if I’m Brooklyn

You'll take it, and Like it!

 

[tykendo]

Brooklyns goal is to find a player that will be as good as Bridges. Ant is not as good as most here think. Nas is worthless, so Brooklyn would need to be convinced Miller will be as good as Bridges……I’m not making that trade if I’m Brooklyn

"Ant is not as good as most think here". Wow, one thing i actually agree with you on.

 

[Mediocre Man]

You'll take it, and Like it!

Maybe Joe should try this tactic

 

[Mediocre Man]

"Ant is not as good as most think here". Wow, one thing i actually agree with you on.

I think we probably agree on most things. We just come at it from different ways

 

[tykendo]

Maybe Joe should try this tactic

I think it's from the Jerry West school of GM.

 

[Predator]

Lol I love how the “realistic trade thread” has a bunch of trades that are based on unlikely scenarios.

For it to be “realistic”, we need to assume our pick is 7th until the lottery proves otherwise.

 

[RR7]

"Ant is not as good as most think here". Wow, one thing i actually agree with you on.

It seems the majority here, or at least the vocal minority, but am assuming the majority, seem to have soured pretty quickly on Ant. I'm not one, but a lot of hate his way

 

[Natebishop3]

It seems the majority here, or at least the vocal minority, but am assuming the majority, seem to have soured pretty quickly on Ant. I'm not one, but a lot of hate his way

I actually think he will break out if given the opportunity.

For instance, if he were to go to Orlando and play point guard, he could be an All Star.

I don’t think he’s Dame. I think Sharpe has a higher ceiling. But I think Ant is a good player who has been playing out of position in a terrible system for him.

 

[tykendo]

I actually think he will break out if given the opportunity.

For instance, if he were to go to Orlando and play point guard, he could be an All Star.

I don’t think he’s Dame. I think Sharpe has a higher ceiling. But I think Ant is a good player who has been playing out of position in a terrible system for him.

I agree that Ant could be better in another place similar to CJ. But let's not act like CJ has been other worldly since going to Nawlins. He's actually been who he was in his career in Portland. I think his leadership has taken a step up, but his actual play has pretty much stayed the same.

 

[tykendo]

It seems the majority here, or at least the vocal minority, but am assuming the majority, seem to have soured pretty quickly on Ant. I'm not one, but a lot of hate his way

I look at Ant as mostly a potential Lew Williams, or Jamal Crawford type player. Maybe even with the potential to be more accurate. But i don't see a natural facilitator. And therein lies the problem in Portland.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

I look at Ant as mostly a potential Lew Williams, or Jamal Crawford type player. Maybe even with the potential to be more accurate. But i don't see a natural facilitator. And therein lies the problem in Portland.

I think Ant did a good job the prior year as facilitator. Once Dame came back he seemed to struggle. I’d be ok with Ant as PG and Sharpe as SG, then ideally a true SF

 

[Ed O]

I think Ant did a good job the prior year as facilitator. Once Dame came back he seemed to struggle. I’d be ok with Ant as PG and Sharpe as SG, then ideally a true SF

Yes. A SF with a bit of size.

And a PF that can rebound.

If we had those pieces, we'd be better off than where we are right now with Dame. Maybe it's adding a power forward and sliding Grant to SF and bringing Ant off the bench as a 30 MPG third man playing both guard spots while keeping Dame.

 

[Shaboid]

Yes. A SF with a bit of size.

And a PF that can rebound.

If we had those pieces, we'd be better off than where we are right now with Dame. Maybe it's adding a power forward and sliding Grant to SF and bringing Ant off the bench as a 30 MPG third man playing both guard spots while keeping Dame.

Would that result in less switches on picks? I was not impressed with Grant guarding the ball this last year..

 

[Ed O]

Would that result in less switches on picks? I was not impressed with Grant guarding the ball this last year..

I dunno, and it's hard for me to tell whether switches on picks are a result of the players or the defensive scheme.

It's also possible that Grant can't defend wings these days, in which case he goes from a defense-neutral guy to a negative on defense... which, if we still had Dame and Nurk might be disastrous. Haha

 

[Natebishop3]

I agree that Ant could be better in another place similar to CJ. But let's not act like CJ has been other worldly since going to Nawlins. He's actually been who he was in his career in Portland. I think his leadership has taken a step up, but his actual play has pretty much stayed the same.

I think Ant could be much better than CJ.

But let me be clear. NOP is not a good system for CJ. They're asking him to be a distributor on a team with other quality scorers. That was NEVER CJ's strength. He's not a point guard. He's a lead guard. He and Ant need to be the primary scorers. I don't think either one of them is a point guard on a contender. So either they need to play with a defensive minded guard who can help cover their weaknesses on defense, or they need to play on mediocre teams where they can be the primary.

 

[blazerkor]

People might think it's unrealistic to start a trade option with "if Wemby then..." but since there are only four teams with better odds at getting the guy than we have and the most any team (three of them) has is a 3.5% better chance to get Wemby than we do, I don't think it's unrealistic just unlikely. In fact I think us getting Wemby is more realistic than any singular trade idea in this thread actually happening. I don't think any of us think any of our ideas have better than a 1 in 10 chance of happening.

With that said, if we do land the first pick and therefore Wemby, I think that Julius Randle would be a really good guy to target. I think that he is in need of leadership and I don't think there is a better leader in the game than Dame. I think he's strong and could handle some of the post up defense from bigger guys that might initially present problems for Wemby. He rebounds well, he can defend everywhere on the floor, he switches well on defense and obviously can score in multiple ways.

I think due to the inconsistency both of his play from year to year and his attitude from game to game that he is risky and that's why I could see it only taking Ant and the Knicks' pick going out in a deal that brings him in... I do think there would have to be a third team involved because they don't need another crafty, small, score first guard but I do think Ant's talent with it's matching salary and that 23rd pick is what the Knicks could expect to get for Randle given the inconsistency. Maybe I'm just overreacting to very recent events though.

 

[Hoopguru]

I really Like Cam Johnson. I realize he has had injury issues but Im not sure if they are the serious reoccurring type?
Id give up Simons for him and some.

 

[blazerkor]

I really Like Cam Johnson. I realize he has had injury issues but Im not sure if they are the serious reoccurring type?
Id give up Simons for him and some.

Are you saying that the "and some" would be coming from us or from the Nets?

Regardless, giving up Ant for a S&T Cam Johnson isn't a bad move in a vacuum but I don' think it makes enough better to meet the goals that Dame and Joe have been throwing around. I do think all of this talk is fun but completely pointless until the 16th but still...

I think Ant for Cam Johnson is maybe a small talent upgrade and seemingly a much better fit around Dame and the needs of the team but it sure feels like an Olsheyish move to me, especially if we were the team adding the "and some". It's our role player for their role player that we're hoping is an upgrade and/or better fit but still just a role player. I think we're going to get better than a role player this off season in a trade the only question I have is just how much are we going to over pay for him or them.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Dream scenario is get #1 pick - pick Wemby.

Trade Ant + future picks after giving the NYK pick to Chi and getting back Bridges.

Dame
Shae
Bridges
Grant
Wemby

Bobby Marks just said that Bridges is not a #1 and not even a #2. He's already what, 26? I don't see why Brooklyn shouldn't sell high.

 

[Natebishop3]

Dream scenario is get #1 pick - pick Wemby.

Trade Ant + future picks after giving the NYK pick to Chi and getting back Bridges.

Dame
Shae
Bridges
Grant
Wemby

Bobby Marks just said that Bridges is not a #1 and not even a #2. He's already what, 26? I don't see why Brooklyn shouldn't sell high.

There's just no way that BKN gives up their primary piece from the Durant trade for Ant and some future picks.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

There's just no way that BKN gives up their primary piece from the Durant trade for Ant and some future picks.

How are they going to get better in the immediate? He's already 26 and he doesn't want to be there. Why not trade him and start the timeline at a younger age? Ant plus 3 future 1st seems like a good idea in all honesty. Ant has a better chance at being a true #1 or #2 option than Bridges and he's younger. Do what OKC did. Stockpile picks and get young enough to where you can really go for it.

Sticking with Bridges seems like a road paved for mediocrity.

 

[Natebishop3]

How are they going to get better in the immediate? He's already 26 and he doesn't want to be there. Why not trade him and start the timeline at a younger age? Ant plus 3 future 1st seems like a good idea in all honesty. Ant has a better chance at being a true #1 or #2 option than Bridges and he's younger. Do what OKC did. Stockpile picks and get young enough to where you can really go for it.

Sticking with Bridges seems like a road paved for mediocrity.

I guess it all depends on what value Simons has around the league.

 

[BIG Q]

How are they going to get better in the immediate? He's already 26 and he doesn't want to be there. Why not trade him and start the timeline at a younger age? Ant plus 3 future 1st seems like a good idea in all honesty. Ant has a better chance at being a true #1 or #2 option than Bridges and he's younger. Do what OKC did. Stockpile picks and get young enough to where you can really go for it.

Sticking with Bridges seems like a road paved for mediocrity.

So this is a good strategy for Brooklyn, who made the playoffs and are probably looking to bring in complimentary pieces, but Portland, 5th worst record in the league should mortgage the future instead of implementing the OKC plan? Lost me.

 

[HansenYang]

How are they going to get better in the immediate? He's already 26 and he doesn't want to be there. Why not trade him and start the timeline at a younger age? Ant plus 3 future 1st seems like a good idea in all honesty. Ant has a better chance at being a true #1 or #2 option than Bridges and he's younger. Do what OKC did. Stockpile picks and get young enough to where you can really go for it.

Sticking with Bridges seems like a road paved for mediocrity.

Why do you think Bridges doesn't want to be there?

Who cares if the Net's want to go down a mediocre path. Portland has been blazing that trail for years.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

So this is a good strategy for Brooklyn, who made the playoffs and are probably looking to bring in complimentary pieces, but Portland, 5th worst record in the league should mortgage the future instead of implementing the OKC plan? Lost me.

Except their records are not representative of where these two franchises are. Brooklyn doesn't have a superstar. They have one, borderline star. The Blazers have a superstar and are in much better position to compete for the immediate than Nets. Lost me.

 

[Hoopguru]

Are you saying that the "and some" would be coming from us or from the Nets?

Regardless, giving up Ant for a S&T Cam Johnson isn't a bad move in a vacuum but I don' think it makes enough better to meet the goals that Dame and Joe have been throwing around. I do think all of this talk is fun but completely pointless until the 16th but still...

I think Ant for Cam Johnson is maybe a small talent upgrade and seemingly a much better fit around Dame and the needs of the team but it sure feels like an Olsheyish move to me, especially if we were the team adding the "and some". It's our role player for their role player that we're hoping is an upgrade and/or better fit but still just a role player. I think we're going to get better than a role player this off season in a trade the only question I have is just how much are we going to over pay for him or them.

Nets for salary

 

[Natebishop3]

How are they going to get better in the immediate? He's already 26 and he doesn't want to be there. Why not trade him and start the timeline at a younger age? Ant plus 3 future 1st seems like a good idea in all honesty. Ant has a better chance at being a true #1 or #2 option than Bridges and he's younger. Do what OKC did. Stockpile picks and get young enough to where you can really go for it.

Sticking with Bridges seems like a road paved for mediocrity.

Looks like Memphis already tried to use 4 picks to pry him away.

I think he has decent value.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Why do you think Bridges doesn't want to be there?

Who cares if the Net's want to go down a mediocre path. Portland has been blazing that trail for years.

I'm saying for the sake of argument, if he wants out and play with Dame as it has been reported.

It's not about caring. I'm saying if I was managing the team, I'd probably trade out of Bridges and go way younger and continue to stockpile picks for the long haul. The Blazers being managed to be mediocre is not a valid argument for why Brooklyn should.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Looks like Memphis already tried to use 4 picks to pry him away.

I think he has decent value.

Their picks sucked and they're way younger. If we trade our picks, the likelihood is that they'll be much better post-Dame.