Trade Idea Realistic trade options for summer of 2023

[SharpesTriumph]

Trade1
-Blazers get Jaylen Brown
-Celtics get Ant, #5, #23, 2030 unprotected

Trade2
-Blazers get Demar DeRozen
-Spurs get Nurk, Blazers 2nd round pick, lesser of Bulls/Blazers 2026 1st
-Bulls get Collins, Little, Knox, Blazers 2026 and 2028 picks both top4 protected. 2024 pick changed to unprotected

Blazers depth chart;
Dame Mays
Brown Sharpe
DeRozen Thybulle
Grant Jabari
Eubanks Watford

Still have tax MLE, trade exceptions, vet minimums to improve that depth

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Last time Blazers added an all-star level player was Steve Smith and Scottie Pippen in 1999. This would likewise be two such additions.

With 26 year old Brown and 20 year old Sharpe also have some long term upside.

 

[BankTeller]

Trade1
-Blazers get Jaylen Brown
-Celtics get Ant, #5, #23, 2030 unprotected

Trade2
-Blazers get Demar DeRozen
-Spurs get Nurk, Blazers 2nd round pick, lesser of Bulls/Blazers 2026 1st
-Bulls get Collins, Little, Knox, Blazers 2026 and 2028 picks both top4 protected. 2024 pick changed to unprotected

Blazers depth chart;
Dame Mays
Brown Sharpe
DeRozen Thybulle
Grant Jabari
Eubanks Watford

Still have tax MLE, trade exceptions, vet minimums to improve that depth

I am totally off trading multiple lightly protected 1sts for Derozan.

I worry about Brown not wanting to actually be here. I’m mostly in even though that worry would kill me for the entire season.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Rumors are Brown is very close to Dame like Grant and may put one team, the Blazers, on his list of preferred destinations this summer. He's on an expiring contract so like Grant actually has some input. It depends on how the Celtics do the rest of the playoffs, if they make the finals he probably stays put.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

I am totally off trading multiple lightly protected 1sts for Derozan.

I worry about Brown not wanting to actually be here. I’m mostly in even though that worry would kill me for the entire season.

I'm not as big on the DeRozen trade, but the Blazers have to give up more picks there to get out of Nurks overpaid contract, DeRozen is again super close to Dame and in his wedding. With the rest of the shooting on that roster I'm not as concerned with DeRozen iffy 3pt shot. Seems like a trade Dame would also really push for, and I'd be interested in seeing how it works even though it has some risk of DeRozen declining soon.

 

[inconceivable]

Rumors are Brown is very close to Dame like Grant and may put one team, the Blazers, on his list of preferred destinations this summer. He's on an expiring contract so like Grant actually has some input. It depends on how the Celtics do the rest of the playoffs, if they make the finals he probably stays put.

Boston wins, Embiid becomes a possibility

Philly wins, Brown becomes a possibility

 

[CJ_is_Gone]

Rumors are Brown is very close to Dame like Grant and may put one team, the Blazers, on his list of preferred destinations this summer. He's on an expiring contract so like Grant actually has some input. It depends on how the Celtics do the rest of the playoffs, if they make the finals he probably stays put.

Where have you seen these rumors?

 

[Mediocre Man]

Rumors are Brown is very close to Dame like Grant and may put one team, the Blazers, on his list of preferred destinations this summer. He's on an expiring contract so like Grant actually has some input. It depends on how the Celtics do the rest of the playoffs, if they make the finals he probably stays put.

Brown and Harden to Houston. No intel

 

[Pinwheel1]

OG for Nurk and other draft considerations? That's very wishful thinking buddy. not gonna happen

Depends on the draft considerations. If that pick is #2 it most definitely could happen. Scoot would fit well with Toronto.
I think the Blazers would/should balk on that one and hold out for Siakam. Of course, it would take more additional assets than it would for OG.
I like OG, and would love him if the price is right, but we really need a forward who can create his own shot in crunch time, and I don't think he can.

 

[Natebishop3]

Depends on the draft considerations. If that pick is #2 it most definitely could happen. Scoot would fit well with Toronto.
I think the Blazers would/should balk on that one and hold out for Siakam. Of course, it would take more additional assets than it would for OG.
I like OG, and would love him if the price is right, but we really need a forward who can create his own shot in crunch time, and I don't think he can.

#2 for Siakam is an overpay I think.

 

[damianlillard]

#2 for Siakam is an overpay I think.

Guess what buddy! We are gonna have to overpay for someone to keep dame happy

 

[SwissBlazer]

Yes... and @SwissBlazer has been trying to get him here for years!

Absolutely my friend! Let's do this!

 

[inconceivable]

#2 for Siakam is an overpay I think.

Who do you think is fair value for #2?

What pick order do you think is fair value for Siakam?

What win-now player is fair value for Shaedon?

For me, if we can turn #2 into Siakam, that's a win.

I wouldn't trade Sharpe because I set his floor to Devin Booker.

 

[blazerkor]

#2 for Siakam is an overpay I think.

#2, #23, Ant and Nurk for Siakam and #13. In an ideal situation you could make the deal a three way trade that sends #13 and future draft picks to the Nets for Nic Claxton. Obviously the Nets wouldn't be looking to trade Claxton so it would have to be an overpay.

 

[tykendo]

#2 for Siakam is an overpay I think.

I disagree. Siakam is a fantastic proven player. The #2 pick ain't done squat yet. And Scoot looks like a Donovan Mitchell type player. I like Mitchell, but i like Siakam's defense and size more.

 

[Pinwheel1]

#2 for Siakam is an overpay I think.

So do you just not want to trade #2 or are there others you would rather use it on? Who are they? (within reason)

 

[inconceivable]

I disagree. Siakam is a fantastic proven player. The #2 pick ain't done squat yet. And Scoot looks like a Donovan Mitchell type player. I like Mitchell, but i like Siakam's defense and size more.

Let's say we get Siakam for #2, what's our next move?

 

[tykendo]

Let's say we get Siakam for #2, what's our next move?

Depends on who you traded with the #2 pick to satisfy the cap move. If you trade the # 2 pick, Ant & Nas to make the deal work, then you look to add quality depth to the bench. But if you do trade for Siakam, it has to be in a sign & trade, since his contract is expiring. Most of the Blazers roster is with players who have 2 years or less on their contracts left.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Depends on who you traded with the #2 pick to satisfy the cap move. If you trade the # 2 pick, Ant & Nas to make the deal work, then you look to add quality depth to the bench. But if you do trade for Siakam, it has to be in a sign & trade, since his contract is expiring. Most of the Blazers roster is with players who have 2 years or less on their contracts left.

It is expiring? I thought it expired next year?

 

[Pinwheel1]

Let's say we get Siakam for #2, what's our next move?

Sign Grant and keep #23. If Badji is just as good as any center at 23 then draft a PG. (If not draft a center)
Then sign a solid scoring wing with the MLE. If we lose Ant we will need scoring off the bench.

 

[tykendo]

It is expiring? I thought it expired next year?

Expiring after next year. The Blazers would want assurances they have him for multiple years going forward.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

We could likely get some good backups to play off the bench like Thaddeus Young from Toronto in any deal. They'll be looking to rebuild and shed salary.

 

[tykendo]

We could likely get some good backups to play off the bench like Thaddeus Young from Toronto in any deal. They'll be looking to rebuild and shed salary.

Thad looked done last year. Very long in the tooth.

 

[Natebishop3]

So do you just not want to trade #2 or are there others you would rather use it on? Who are they? (within reason)

I need to start doing some draft research. But to me top 3 players have the potential or should have the potential to be superstars.

Siakam is not a superstar. He’s basically a top 20 guy. Which is fine but he’s not young anymore. He’s 29 so why would we trade the chance at a superstar for a fringe star who will only get worse?

At least Brown is only 26.

 

[tykendo]

I need to start doing some draft research. But to me top 3 players have the potential or should have the potential to be superstars.

Siakam is not a superstar. He’s basically a top 20 guy. Which is fine but he’s not young anymore. He’s 29 so why would we trade the chance at a superstar for a fringe star who will only get worse?

At least Brown is only 26.

He's 29 not 35.

 

[Natebishop3]

He's 29 not 35.

He’s a big. They age differently than guards.

 

[tykendo]

He’s a big. They age differently than guards.

They do. They usually last a little longer.

 

[Natebishop3]

They do. They usually last a little longer.

Disagree.

LMA was 29 when he signed with the Spurs. They got three good years out of him before he fell off a cliff. I don’t want to trade a top 2 pick for three years.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Thad looked done last year. Very long in the tooth.

I think he along with the rest of the roster would look better if they were more competitive.

 

[tykendo]

Disagree.

LMA was 29 when he signed with the Spurs. They got three good years out of him before he fell off a cliff. I don’t want to trade a top 2 pick for three years.

LaMarcus also had some health issues, with the heart condition. That might have sped up the decline.