Trade Idea Realistic trade options for summer of 2023

[wizenheimer]

Depends on who you traded with the #2 pick to satisfy the cap move. If you trade the # 2 pick, Ant & Nas to make the deal work, then you look to add quality depth to the bench. But if you do trade for Siakam, it has to be in a sign & trade, since his contract is expiring. Most of the Blazers roster is with players who have 2 years or less on their contracts left.

I doubt that Siakam would agree to a S&T with Portland. But if he was willing the Blazers would need to make the trade first, then re-sign him. That way the Blazers won't be hard-capped again by receiving a player in a S&T. It's good for Siakam too because he could get 8% raises instead of the 5% of a S&T

 

[Pinwheel1]

I need to start doing some draft research. But to me top 3 players have the potential or should have the potential to be superstars.

Siakam is not a superstar. He’s basically a top 20 guy. Which is fine but he’s not young anymore. He’s 29 so why would we trade the chance at a superstar for a fringe star who will only get worse?

At least Brown is only 26.

Brown will be 27 before the season starts, so they are basically 2 years apart. (But yes I like Brown better) Regardless Siakam has a solid 4-5 years left at least. He does not need to rely on athleticism. He can handle the ball well for a PF and with that 7'3" wingspan he seems to get his shot
off with ease. I think Scoot has the potential to be a star, but after that, it is a crap shoot.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

It's not a draft with likely stars at #2 as Melo/Durant were. Sure #2 could be a star but odds historically are they won't be. Siakam is a known quantity so should have a lower ceiling as he has a much much higher floor.

 

[blazerkor]

Ideal but realistic. We land the second pick and do this:

 

[Ripcity4life77]

Let's be honest we are not really sure who is a realistic target cause the teams that might trade these players are in flux / trying to figure out the direction they want to go and IF said player(s) will be a part of that future. It's why as crazy as it sounds players we would think NEVER be available like Giannis and Embiid could be available but still unlikely but all it would take is a player to go to the front office or vice versa and say this is not working out so maybe time to change directions. It's not much different then Dame and the Blazers even if both sides want to stay together conditions might not be right for it to happen so as crazy as it seems very few players are truly off the table just longshots at best and only time will tell about there futures. This is where Cronin and Jody need to be ready to strike IF the opportunity presents itself cause the window to get that type of deal done could open and shut fast so I really hope they are ready if that opportunity comes around.

 

[Blazinaway]

Let's be honest we are not really sure who is a realistic target cause the teams that might trade these players are in flux / trying to figure out the direction they want to go and IF said player(s) will be a part of that future. It's why as crazy as it sounds players we would think NEVER be available like Giannis and Embiid could be available but still unlikely but all it would take is a player to go to the front office or vice versa and say this is not working out so maybe time to change directions. It's not much different then Dame and the Blazers even if both sides want to stay together conditions might not be right for it to happen so as crazy as it seems very few players are truly off the table just longshots at best and only time will tell about there futures. This is where Cronin and Jody need to be ready to strike IF the opportunity presents itself cause the window to get that type of deal done could open and shut fast so I really hope they are ready if that opportunity comes around.

Yep and MUCH depends on what pick we ultimately get in the draft, If we got #2 and someone really wanted Scoot badly we could possibly get a really good haul, and obviously if we got #1 and Victor we likely keep him and perhaps give Chi the NY pick and use Simons/Nurk future picks to get another piece that fits with Victor - which only reinforces how impt our ultimate draft position is.

 

[wizenheimer]

Ideal but realistic. We land the second pick and do this:
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gawdalmighty

just say no to KAT and his fucking ridiculous contract. The Vulcans would never go for that anyway

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Ideal but realistic. We land the second pick and do this:
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No way Brooklyn considers that. They don't have their picks so they're not going to trade their franchise player in Bridges to go young unless its many great pieces coming back.

Maybe Minnesota would if they want to move on from Towns and dont have better offers.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Ideal but realistic. We land the second pick and do this:
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Not remotely realistic. Brooklyn laughs at that

 

[cheesehoff]

The most ferocious dunk of the season for Nurk....was playing for his home squad. We got mostly flippity boppity boo attempts here.

I started referring to him as Twinkle Toes because of his shooting a few years back. Talk about a waste of size.

 

[cheesehoff]

Sign Grant and keep #23. If Badji is just as good as any center at 23 then draft a PG. (If not draft a center)
Then sign a solid scoring wing with the MLE. If we lose Ant we will need scoring off the bench.

Use 23 and a sweetener to move up for Lively from Duke.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Use 23 and a sweetener to move up for Lively from Duke.

Do we really need to move up? two of these three say no

https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/

https://nbadraftroom.com/p/2023-nba-mock-draft/

https://www.tankathon.com/mock_draft

 

[BonesJones]

Trade1
-Blazers get Jaylen Brown
-Celtics get Ant, #5, #23, 2030 unprotected

Trade2
-Blazers get Demar DeRozen
-Spurs get Nurk, Blazers 2nd round pick, lesser of Bulls/Blazers 2026 1st
-Bulls get Collins, Little, Knox, Blazers 2026 and 2028 picks both top4 protected. 2024 pick changed to unprotected

Blazers depth chart;
Dame Mays
Brown Sharpe
DeRozen Thybulle
Grant Jabari
Eubanks Watford

Still have tax MLE, trade exceptions, vet minimums to improve that depth

That lineup might be worse defensively than this year and can't rebound.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Trade1
-Blazers get Jaylen Brown
-Celtics get Ant, #5, #23, 2030 unprotected

Trade2
-Blazers get Demar DeRozen
-Spurs get Nurk, Blazers 2nd round pick, lesser of Bulls/Blazers 2026 1st
-Bulls get Collins, Little, Knox, Blazers 2026 and 2028 picks both top4 protected. 2024 pick changed to unprotected

Blazers depth chart;
Dame Mays
Brown Sharpe
DeRozen Thybulle
Grant Jabari
Eubanks Watford

Still have tax MLE, trade exceptions, vet minimums to improve that depth

Like my wife said on our wedding night….”Love the effort. Hate the result”

 

[SharpesTriumph]

That lineup might be worse defensively than this year and can't rebound.

I like the first part getting Brown the most.

Dame is likely to push the team to acquire DeRozen if he's available IMO. I would prefer DeRozen on the roster over Nurk. Losing picks hurts, I'm not wild about the DeRozen part just thought it was interesting to consider.

As I said still have MLE/TE to improve the defense. Maybe defense or rebounding is a problem but it would be fun to at least see how that core plays. Maybe with a few key role players those issues aren't catastrophic. Offensively the group is great.

 

[BIG Q]

Brown, DeRozen and Sharpe. Great roster balance. Wonder how long they will all enjoy limited minutes or always playing out of position. Would be a fun implosion to watch.

 

[wizenheimer]

Like my wife said on our wedding night….”Love the effort. Hate the result”

I could have this wrong, but isn't it almost certain you will hate every reasonable trade idea that leaves Dame as a Blazer?

 

[Mediocre Man]

I could have this wrong, but isn't it almost certain you will hate every reasonable trade idea that leaves Dame as a Blazer?

You do not have it wrong because every REASONABLE trade idea keeps us in purgatory and lessens Dame’s value. Certainly not Dame’s fault, but it’s time to hit reset before it’s too late

 

[blazedanugz]

If the Celtics don’t win it all…brown will request a trade.
Heard it here first

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Brown, DeRozen and Sharpe. Great roster balance. Wonder how long they will all enjoy limited minutes or always playing out of position. Would be a fun implosion to watch.

DeRozen is almost 34 and only plays forward, often PF. He does need some shooters to space him, which all of Brown/Sharpe/Grant/Dame can do. Sharpe will be fine on the bench next season and can eventually move to more of a starter role as DeRozen transitions to a bench role.

As I type this; I didn't realize DeRozen is almost 34. Maybe change the picks the Blazers send Chicago to one top four 2026 protected pick and then remove the 2024 protections.

Both Brown and Sharpe have size to play SF or be a large SG. I think they would be great as a SG/SF duo - as opposed to when we had a slightly undersized SF trying to cover for CJ/Ant being way undersized at SG.

As I said, the Brown trade is the important one to build a contender - the DeRozen one I'm not as excited for, its more of an interesting thought experiment. I could definitely see Dame pushing for it though.

 

[BIG Q]

DeRozen is almost 34 and only plays forward, often PF. He does need some shooters to space him, which all of Brown/Sharpe/Grant/Dame can do. Sharpe will be fine on the bench next season and can eventually move to more of a starter role as DeRozen transitions to a bench role.

As I type this; I didn't realize DeRozen is almost 34. Maybe change the picks the Blazers send Chicago to one top four 2026 protected pick and then remove the 2024 protections.

Both Brown and Sharpe have size to play SF or be a large SG. I think they would be great as a SG/SF duo - as opposed to when we had a slightly undersized SF trying to cover for CJ/Ant being way undersized at SG.

As I said, the Brown trade is the important one to build a contender - the DeRozen one I'm not as excited for, its more of an interesting thought experiment. I could definitely see Dame pushing for it though.

When I think of DeRozen, I think of Toronto dumping him for Leonard, then winning the title. To me, that is the very definition of not being a needle mover. His team gave up on him when he was in his prime. Can't see any interest there unless it is to dump Nurk, but even then he isn't worth near what is being thrown around on this board.

 

[Mediocre Man]

When I think of DeRozen, I think of Toronto dumping him for Leonard, then winning the title. To me, that is the very definition of not being a needle mover. His team gave up on him when he was in his prime. Can't see any interest there unless it is to dump Nurk, but even then he isn't worth near what is being thrown around on this board.

Because Leonard is a defender. Thus trading Dame

 

[Mediocre Man]

Joel Embid just won MVP

Do you think Ant, Nurk and the 5th pick is too much?

signed….2/3 of this forum probably

 

[Natebishop3]

Joel Embid just won MVP

Do you think Ant, Nurk and the 5th pick is too much?

signed….2/3 of this forum probably

Thats an overpay.

He’s injury prone.

 

[blazerkor]

If (and there are a lot of big ifs in this option) we land Wemby and the Knicks get beat this round then Randle will make a lot of sense as an all star trade option. We select Wemby with the first pick and then send Ant and Nas plus 23 and an unprotected future first to the Knicks for Randle. We would still have future picks to get someone like Hartenstein to be a backup big and then the TPMLE to fill out our bench but this is a great team.

Dame, Shae, Jerami, Randle, Wamby, Matisse, Hartensein, TPEMLE, Mays and our second round pick at 43 is a helluva rotation... especially if Trendon and/or Mays are better than pick 43.

 

[Mediocre Man]

If (and there are a lot of big ifs in this option) we land Wemby and the Knicks get beat this round then Randle will make a lot of sense as an all star trade option. We select Wemby with the first pick and then send Ant and Nas plus 23 and an unprotected future first to the Knicks for Randle. We would still have future picks to get someone like Hartenstein to be a backup big and then the TPMLE to fill out our bench but this is a great team.

Dame, Shae, Jerami, Randle, Wamby, Matisse, Hartensein, TPEMLE, Mays and our second round pick at 43 is a helluva rotation... especially if Trendon and/or Mays are better than pick 43.

Why does NY trade Randle? How does Ant help NY with Brunson, Hart, Grimes and Barrett already there? Basically sending a back up, a fringe rotation guy and a late pick for an all star big? Ask yourself if you’d want that package

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Joel Embid just won MVP

Do you think Ant, Nurk and the 5th pick is too much?

signed….2/3 of this forum probably

It's not too much but the 76ers would want another pick or something. Of course Embiid is very unlikely to be available but for the sake of discussing let's assume he is, such as if Harden first left in free agency.

So lets say the Blazers agree to a fair trade for both sides. The problem from the Blazers end is the resulting roster wouldn't be a contender nor have assets to acquire the other needed starters. If the Blazers give up future assets for a veteran and don't become a contender it's a bad move regardless if the veteran is a 6th man or MVP. Add in Embiid injury history and massive contract risk too. The Blazers just don't have enough veteran talent on the roster before or after an Embiid trade.

So it can be a situation where it's a good value trade from the Blazers end to trade for Embiid only looking at that one move. But simultaneously it's a bad trade for the Blazers at this time too.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

If (and there are a lot of big ifs in this option) we land Wemby and the Knicks get beat this round then Randle will make a lot of sense as an all star trade option. We select Wemby with the first pick and then send Ant and Nas plus 23 and an unprotected future first to the Knicks for Randle. We would still have future picks to get someone like Hartenstein to be a backup big and then the TPMLE to fill out our bench but this is a great team.

Dame, Shae, Jerami, Randle, Wamby, Matisse, Hartensein, TPEMLE, Mays and our second round pick at 43 is a helluva rotation... especially if Trendon and/or Mays are better than pick 43.

I want a better defender at the forward spot than Randle for a Dame team. Now if we get Randle at a discount like Grant sure let's try it, but no I wouldn't acquire him at a high cost as you propose.

The ship has sailed on acquiring Knicks IMO with them having their best postseason in 23 years.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Embiid is signed for 3 more years before his player option. The timeline certainly works with Dame. But of course, Philly is not trading the MVP for anything we have unless we land the #1 pick. And not even then unless Embiid demands a trade.

 

[Mediocre Man]

It's not too much but the 76ers would want another pick or something. Of course Embiid is very unlikely to be available but for the sake of discussing let's assume he is, such as if Harden first left in free agency.

So lets say the Blazers agree to a fair trade for both sides. The problem from the Blazers end is the resulting roster wouldn't be a contender nor have assets to acquire the other needed starters. If the Blazers give up future assets for a veteran and don't become a contender it's a bad move regardless if the veteran is a 6th man or MVP. Add in Embiid injury history and massive contract risk too. The Blazers just don't have enough veteran talent on the roster before or after an Embiid trade.

So it can be a situation where it's a good value trade from the Blazers end to trade for Embiid only looking at that one move. But simultaneously it's a bad trade for the Blazers at this time too.

Assuming Embid doesn’t tell management he wants out and will only play for Portland, what “fair” offer can Portland send for the MVP?