Trade Idea Realistic trade options for summer of 2023

[BIG Q]

The problem with trying to trade for Bridges is the Nets don't control their own picks. Best way I could see a trade making sense is to get Houston in the deal and have them send pick(s) back to the Nets.

Problem with that is if Houston knows Bridges is available they will just cut Portland out. Why help someone else get a great player on an outstanding contract when you can get him for your own?

 

[tykendo]

Ok, for those banking or hoping on Bridges, best of luck with that. Just like those that want Siakam and Brown, despite them being duplication of what we already have. A week from draft lottery. Should help settle things.

You, nor I , know a gosh darn thing about anything involving what these team's will, or will not do.

 

[tykendo]

You, nor I , know a gosh darn thing about anything involving what these team's will, or will not do.

It's a troll take, pure and simple, OKKKKKKK

 

[tykendo]

Problem with that is if Houston knows Bridges is available they will just cut Portland out. Why help someone else get a great player on an outstanding contract when you can get him for your own?

Meant for your take Q

 

[BIG Q]

It's a troll take, pure and simple, OKKKKKKK

Typical

 

[tykendo]

Ok, for those banking or hoping on Bridges, best of luck with that. Just like those that want Siakam and Brown, despite them being duplication of what we already have. A week from draft lottery. Should help settle things.

Yes, your take is typical of trolls who like to get under the skin of Blazers fans. But i'm sure you'll come back with a , "i'm keeping it real" take. You , nor I, know what any of these teams can get done this offseason.

 

[tykendo]

You're making it sound like the only players the Blazers can get ,trading a top Lottery pick & talent like Ant, is some meddling mediocre player in return. I call BS. If Ant sucks that bad, he shouldn't be on this team anyways.

 

[blazerkor]

The realistic trade target is KAT. That team is in big trouble. They need to recoup picks that they lost for Gobert and need additional talent. I think KAT could be had for Ant, Nas, pick 23 and a future FRP or two.

KAT could have a real resurgence here with Dame and if he does that's our second all nba guy next to Dame. If the pick falls then maybe we can do Nurk and the pick for OG.

I know someone said that it was depressing but I think Dame, Shae, OG, Jerami, KAT, Matisse, Nas, a backup PG or Big with pick 43 and the position we don't get at 43 we fill with the TPMLE. That's a solid rotation. I don't know if it can contend but I don't know that it can't. Those pieces fit together nicely if KAT's best basketball is in front of him.

 

[RR7]

The realistic trade target is KAT. That team is in big trouble. They need to recoup picks that they lost for Gobert and need additional talent. I think KAT could be had for Ant, Nas, pick 23 and a future FRP or two.

KAT could have a real resurgence here with Dame and if he does that's our second all nba guy next to Dame. If the pick falls then maybe we can do Nurk and the pick for OG.

I know someone said that it was depressing but I think Dame, Shae, OG, Jerami, KAT, Matisse, Nas, a backup PG or Big with pick 43 and the position we don't get at 43 we fill with the TPMLE. That's a solid rotation. I don't know if it can contend but I don't know that it can't. Those pieces fit together nicely if KAT's best basketball is in front of him.

Did you just trade our lotto pick twice, though? Once with Ant for KAT, and again after it falls with Nurk for OG? Or did I misread

 

[blazerkor]

Did you just trade our lotto pick twice, though? Once with Ant for KAT, and again after it falls with Nurk for OG? Or did I misread

Nope I traded Ant, Nas, pick 23 and probably two future FPRs for KAT and then our pick if it falls along with Nurk for OG. If our pick rises let's say to pick 2 or 3 maybe Nurk and that pick are enough for OG and pick 13.

I did then list Nas in our rotation for next season which was pretty dumb.

 

[RR7]

Nope I traded Ant, Nas, pick 23 and probably two future FPRs for KAT and then our pick if it falls along with Nurk for OG. If our pick rises let's say to pick 2 or 3 maybe Nurk and that pick are enough for OG and pick 13.

I did then list Nas in our rotation for next season which was pretty dumb.

Yep, I totally misread that! My bad

 

[wizenheimer]

I'm surprised people are still pining for KAT. C's are simply not going to make a difference, unless they are elite, like wings can

the Blazers were a lottery team with Nurkic. Compare Nurkic and KAT this year:



I don't see enough with Kat, compared to Nurkic, to elevate Portland enough to trade Ant & 3 first round picks for that guy. In fact, I think it would be stupid, and that's without adding in the context of KAT's absolutely disgusting contract. And it's also not accounting for the fact that KAT has averaged 47 games a year over the last 4 seasons

 

[RR7]

I'm surprised people are still pining for KAT. C's are simply not going to make a difference, unless they are elite, like wings can

the Blazers were a lottery team with Nurkic. Compare Nurkic and KAT this year:

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I don't see enough with Kat, compared to Nurkic, to elevate Portland enough to trade Ant & 3 first round picks for that guy. In fact, I think it would be stupid, and that's without adding in the context of KAT's absolutely disgusting contract. And it's also not accounting for the fact that KAT has averaged 47 games a year over the last 4 seasons

I don't love him, but also, why just compare last year to compare the two?

 

[wizenheimer]

I don't love him, but also, why just compare last year to compare the two?

valid point

last 3 seasons:



and for consideration, KAT's contract:

 

[andalusian]

You need more salary than ant and nas for kat...

 

[cheesehoff]

How many teams have a "true PG's" starting by your definition? I'm not sure Dame is a true PG as he scored nearly 30ppg. Trae Young, Ja, Garland, Westbrook, Dinwiddle, Brunson, Russell, CJ, SGA, Kyrie, etc.

So what maybe 5 of 30 teams have a "true PG"?

That was kind of my point. I believe that Dame isn't a true PG, too. I said the second unit needs one because as long as Dame is on the team he will be the starting PG.

 

[RR7]

You need more salary than ant and nas for kat...

Nad and Ant next year make ~ 30.3. That can bring back upwards of 37 million in salary. KAT makes 36 next year. $$ works.

 

[cheesehoff]

Hell no to KAT. The contract, the attitude, the defense. Nope.

 

[blazerkor]

You need more salary than ant and nas for kat...

If we do it before the new league year, you're right but if we agree to it now or at the draft but put it through for next season's numbers then we're fine... if we had to add Keon to get it to go through immediately I don't think that would be a deal breaker.

 

[bemac]

Love all these lineups with Sharpe coming off the bench. He is not coming off the bench. If he does, there is zero chance he sticks around. He has the greatest potential of anyone on the roster.

If Boston fails to make the finals, they may be desperate enough to trade Brown for Dame, and Portland needs to jump on that opportunity.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Love all these lineups with Sharpe coming off the bench. He is not coming off the bench. If he does, there is zero chance he sticks around. He has the greatest potential of anyone on the roster.

If Boston fails to make the finals, they may be desperate enough to trade Brown for Dame, and Portland needs to jump on that opportunity.

If the Blazers want to get a little younger I might support this. Not only could Boston could offer a good package for Dame, It would also give Dame a real chance at a championship. This vary well could be a win for all parties involved especially if the Blazers get that #2 pick and take Scoot Henderson.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

The realistic trade target is KAT. That team is in big trouble. They need to recoup picks that they lost for Gobert and need additional talent. I think KAT could be had for Ant, Nas, pick 23 and a future FRP or two.

KAT could have a real resurgence here with Dame and if he does that's our second all nba guy next to Dame. If the pick falls then maybe we can do Nurk and the pick for OG.

I know someone said that it was depressing but I think Dame, Shae, OG, Jerami, KAT, Matisse, Nas, a backup PG or Big with pick 43 and the position we don't get at 43 we fill with the TPMLE. That's a solid rotation. I don't know if it can contend but I don't know that it can't. Those pieces fit together nicely if KAT's best basketball is in front of him.

Yeah KAT to the Blazers makes a lot of sense. I don't know you can get him or OG for what you list. But I can see the motivation for both Minny and Portland.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

I'm surprised people are still pining for KAT. C's are simply not going to make a difference, unless they are elite, like wings can

the Blazers were a lottery team with Nurkic. Compare Nurkic and KAT this year:

View attachment 55802

I don't see enough with Kat, compared to Nurkic, to elevate Portland enough to trade Ant & 3 first round picks for that guy. In fact, I think it would be stupid, and that's without adding in the context of KAT's absolutely disgusting contract. And it's also not accounting for the fact that KAT has averaged 47 games a year over the last 4 seasons

KAT has Jokic or Embiid first team All NBA upside to many people. That's something OG, Nurk, Ant, etc just don't have.

Now I'd say KAT has a lot of risk and night never fulfil it, so there could be a ton of risk it totally fails. But it has some potential to actually work, unlike the majority of realisticlly available trade targets.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Love all these lineups with Sharpe coming off the bench. He is not coming off the bench. If he does, there is zero chance he sticks around. He has the greatest potential of anyone on the roster.

If Boston fails to make the finals, they may be desperate enough to trade Brown for Dame, and Portland needs to jump on that opportunity.

I've been a huge Sharpe fan since the day we drafted him and value him over every player on the roster.

Dude is 19 years old and never contributed consistently for a winning team. He's on a rookie contract the team will likely control close to a decade. He can come off the bench just like Kobe.

If he proves he deserves to start then great, move him up then. He doesn't need to be handed anything without earning it, for both his and the teams long term benefit.

 

[tykendo]

Love all these lineups with Sharpe coming off the bench. He is not coming off the bench. If he does, there is zero chance he sticks around. He has the greatest potential of anyone on the roster.

If Boston fails to make the finals, they may be desperate enough to trade Brown for Dame, and Portland needs to jump on that opportunity.

No , nope, natta. If the Blazers go after Brown, it's to add him with Dame. Brown would be a nice addition to the starting 5. Nurk, Grant, Brown, Sharpe, and Dame.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

No , nope, natta. If the Blazers go after Brown, it's to add him with Dame. Brown would be a nice addition to the starting 5. Nurk, Grant, Brown, Sharpe, and Dame.

Yeah I don't see the point in getting Brown if we trade away Dame. Rather get picks and players with upside. The reason to get Brown is to pair him with Dame. They are close too, so I don't see Brown happy here if we trade away Dame and him being on an expiring contract that really matters.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Yeah I don't see the point in getting Brown if we trade away Dame. Rather get picks and players with upside. The reason to get Brown is to pair him with Dame. They are close too, so I don't see Brown happy here if we trade away Dame and him being on an expiring contract that really matters.

Brown is...26? The point of dealing Dame for him is that he's a legit all star who could potentially elevate to another tier if given an opportunity to be the #1 option, and would reset our timeline for contention around an Ant/Sharpe/Brown core without reducing our talent level.

But I agree, if Brown would be dissatisfied being here without Dame, then dealing for him wouldn't make much sense if he were to depart a year later.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Brown has a lot of leverage right now. He is not a fan of being in Boston and he will be a free agent after next season. Many Celtic fans think he will be gone this summer. Rumors say Trae Young and Collins are the centerpieces in a trade for Brown and Smart. I assume the rumor is coming from fans, but I bet Atlanta will do whatever it takes to get him.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Brown has a lot of leverage right now. He is not a fan of being in Boston and he will be a free agent after next season. Many Celtic fans think he will be gone this summer. Rumors say Trae Young and Collins are the centerpieces in a trade for Brown and Smart. I assume the rumor is coming from fans, but I bet Atlanta will do whatever it takes to get him.

I was going to say how Ant is younger; but I see at 23 he's only one year younger than 24 year old Trae. Seems like Trae has played way more.

Probably the best offer comes down to if the Celtics like Collins and the step up from Trae more than the Blazers picks they can package with Simons.

Also, do those teams have a harder time agreeing on a deal being in the same conference.

Finally; if Brown pushes for Portland as Grant did; the Hawks might not want to give up Trae for only an expiring contract of Jaylen.

 

[Natebishop3]

I have long thought that Dame for Brown makes a lot of sense. The Celts get to pair Dame with Tatum and we get a guy who is still pretty young and just coming into his own.

If we got the second pick, it could make a lot of sense to draft Scoot, trade Dame for Brown, and then flip Simons/Nurk for another piece that fits the timeline.