Trade Idea Realistic trade options for summer of 2023

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SharpesTriumph said:
Haha yeah I don't want to trade Ant.

To help you out maybe I should post more Dame trade ideas.
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Yeah, if you want Ant to start you should definitely be in the "trade Dame" camp. They do not work together but just understand that if you're in the trade Dame camp you're also in the "loyalty means absolutely nothing to us despite the fact that we're in a small market that is the furthest away from any other market in the NBA" camp.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Haha yeah I don't want to trade Ant.

To help you out maybe I should post more Dame trade ideas.
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I don't know... did we acquire Jerami Grant without giving up a single player because we had a huge TPE just about a year ago?
 
blazerkor said:
Yeah, if you want Ant to start you should definitely be in the "trade Dame" camp. They do not work together but just understand that if you're in the trade Dame camp you're also in the "loyalty means absolutely nothing to us despite the fact that we're in a small market that is the furthest away from any other market in the NBA" camp.
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I'm probably one of the few equally in keep or trade Dame camp.

The thing is the Blazers aren't contending this year IMO, roster doesn't have enough flexibility going back to recent decisions such as the poor Clippers trade. So I think the team should draft BPA at 3 and keep young talents like Ant.

If Dame wants to stay keep him. If he wants to leave that's his choice and the Blazers can go forward without harming the future of the brand of whatever your concern is.
 
blazerkor said:
I don't know... did we acquire Jerami Grant without giving up a single player because we had a huge TPE just about a year ago?
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We acquired Grant primarily from the 1st round pick which turned into Jalen Duren. Yeah we used 1 TPE, but I'd suspect we could've acquired him with minimal additional cost if we had neutral value expiring contracts or such instead.

Blazers have had many chances to use other salary slots in recent years or add flexibility to improve the team and haven't, instead pocketing cash every time (Nance, Bledsoe, Ingels, Hart, Wiseman, other TPEs, etc)
 
SharpesTriumph said:
I'm probably one of the few equally in keep or trade Dame camp.

The thing is the Blazers aren't contending this year IMO, roster doesn't have enough flexibility going back to recent decisions such as the poor Clippers trade. So I think the team should draft BPA at 3 and keep young talents like Ant.

If Dame wants to stay keep him. If he wants to leave that's his choice and the Blazers can go forward without harming the future of the brand of whatever your concern is.
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We definitely aren't contending if we just take the BPA at 3 and keep Ant.

For someone who values Ant so much it's weird that you don't think we could get an impact player for him... we for sure can get an impact player with pick 3 and matching salaries. Two high impact players added to Dame, Jerami and Shae would probably be a contending starting lineup.

If Joe can put together a bench to go with that then I have to say we would be contenders this year. We already have one really high quality bench piece that we have control over in free agency in Matisse, we have the TPMLE, if we can get two other bench contributors in ways other contenders have done it by finding vet min guys trying to rejuvenate their careers, min salary GLeaguers who just haven't been given the chance or drafting a jewel later in the draft, I think we can do special things.

I know that's a lot of ifs but it's always a lot of ifs that go right that builds a contender.
 
blazerkor said:
We definitely aren't contending if we just take the BPA at 3 and keep Ant.

For someone who values Ant so much it's weird that you don't think we could get an impact player for him... we for sure can get an impact player with pick 3 and matching salaries. Two high impact players added to Dame, Jerami and Shae would probably be a contending starting lineup.
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First not sure how you count acquiring two impact players, that's what I meant about lack of flexibility, we don't have contracts to pair with just #3 so we are likely forced to put Ant and 3 into one deal.

I'm not sure what you mean by impact player. If it's Bridges or Brown or Zion ok maybe that works. Still probably unlikely, but it's a nonzero chance of becoming a contender so I guess I may be ok with it. However I suspect there's a good chance if not highly likely none of these deals are available.

None of the other names such as Ingram, Siakam Ayton Porzingis etc will have the Blazers contend so no I'm not trading Ant or 3 for them. Well maybe Ant alone for Siakam, but no I don't think that's available either.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
First not sure how you count acquiring two impact players, that's what I meant about lack of flexibility, we don't have contracts to pair with just #3 so we are likely forced to put Ant and 3 into one deal.

I'm not sure what you mean by impact player. If it's Bridges or Brown or Zion ok maybe that works. Still probably unlikely, but it's a nonzero chance of becoming a contender so I guess I may be ok with it. However I suspect there's a good chance if not highly likely none of these deals are available.

None of the other names such as Ingram, Siakam Ayton Porzingis etc will have the Blazers contend so no I'm not trading Ant or 3 for them. Well maybe Ant alone for Siakam, but no I don't think that's available either.
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Let's say we acquire Zion for pick 3, Nurk, Nas, Knox and Keon (yes that works for salary matching purposes), especially with how much you value Ant we should be able to get an impact player for Ant and 23... not to mention Joe having said many times that we would be willing to do what it takes to use future picks for the right player. I think a guy like Myles Turner is an impact player and I think Ant is a great fit next to Halibuton, if they like Ant as much as you do Ant and 23 could be enough for Turner and Nembhard.
 
Just throwing a new twist into the trade brainstorming discussion.

A trade based around Dame for the #2 pick.

We draft both Scoot and Miller. This trade should also create a nice chunk of cap space to work with.
 
oldfisherman said:
Just throwing a new twist into the trade brainstorming discussion.

A trade based around Dame for the #2 pick.

We draft both Scoot and Miller. This trade should also create a nice chunk of cap space to work with.
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I bet that would make MJ regret selling. Would Charlotte be what some around here call a "contender" with Dame?
 
More rumors about how Draymond and GS have friction. I'd bet Dame is trying like hell to convince him to take the MLE. Here is a fun scenario;

1. Draft Scoot at #3
2. Trade Nurk NAS #23 future pick for DeRozen
3. Sing Draymond Green for the MLE
4. Sign Meyers Leonard for vet min

Dame - Scoot - Mays
Ant - Sharpe
DeRozen - Thybulle
Grant - Watford
Draymond - Meyers - Eubanks

Deepest Blazers team since 2000. Sub the lineups 5 men at a time and everyone plays 24mpg.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
More rumors about how Draymond and GS have friction. I'd bet Dame is trying like hell to convince him to take the MLE. Here is a fun scenario;

1. Draft Scoot at #3
2. Trade Nurk NAS #23 future pick for DeRozen
3. Sing Draymond Green for the MLE
4. Sign Meyers Leonard for vet min

Dame - Scoot - Mays
Ant - Sharpe
DeRozen - Thybulle
Grant - Watford
Draymond - Meyers - Eubanks

Deepest Blazers team since 2000. Sub the lineups 5 men at a time and everyone plays 24mpg.
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LOL...c'mon man...your attachment to Ant is kind of crazy. It's like Olshey and CJ

if Portland has Dame-Scoot-Sharpe-DDR-Thybulle-Mays, they sure as shit don't need Ant cluttering things up as the least versatile perimeter player with the worst defense

here's a better lineup and it just requires a couple of minor changes:

Dame-Scoot-Mays
DDR-Sharpe-Scoot-Thybulle
Grant-DDR-Thybulle
Draymond-Grant-Watford
Nurkic-Draymond-Eubanks

my team would kick the shit out of your team....
 
Windhorst said we've had conversations about #23 and/or Nassir Little with the Cavs. Not sure who the player coming back would be, but you would image it'd be Jarrett Allen.

Nurk/Little/#23 for Allen? I'd do that.
 
B-Roy said:
Windhorst said we've had conversations about #23 and/or Nassir Little with the Cavs. Not sure who the player coming back would be, but you would image it'd be Jarrett Allen.
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Allen makes 20 mil. Would have to include Nurk but I brought up Allen a few times this summer. Would make me happy.
 
B-Roy said:
Windhorst said we've had conversations about #23 and/or Nassir Little with the Cavs. Not sure who the player coming back would be, but you would image it'd be Jarrett Allen.

Nurk/Little/#23 for Allen? I'd do that.
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Me too!
 
B-Roy said:
Windhorst said we've had conversations about #23 and/or Nassir Little with the Cavs. Not sure who the player coming back would be, but you would image it'd be Jarrett Allen.

Nurk/Little/#23 for Allen? I'd do that.
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I would easily do that. Allen is the next big that has a realistic chance of being traded that I would want.

Allen and his contract > Ayton and his contract, 100 times out of 100.
 
B-Roy said:
If they move 23 + Little for Okoro or Osman Joe Cronin should be punted into the moon. 2 players on the same level as Nas and we add a pick?
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they are two players who can stay healthy and Portland may have no confidence at all, with good reason, that Nas can stay healthy
 
BankTeller said:
I would easily do that. Allen is the next big that has a realistic chance of being traded that I would want.

Allen and his contract > Ayton and his contract, 100 times out of 100.
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I'd love that. Why is he likely to get traded?
 
I have to ask one thing -- Why would the Cavs trade Allen away -- I am not as familiar with the Cavs in terms of money and such but I can see why the Blazers would do it -- saving money. I could be missing something and IF I am please educate me but he is not on a bad contract maybe a tad spendy at 20 per year but not crazy. I will ask again what am I missing cause I see no reason for the Cav's to trade a Top 10 to 15 center for a 20's 1st round pick and a under performing often injured SF.

Reason I said saving money is outside of Allen the Cav's have nothing to offer accept future cap saving like : 23rd pick and Little to Cavs for Cedi Osman who is on the last year of his deal and maybe a future 2nd or something. I could see this team being cheap and trying to get off Little's contract and offering a 1st as incentive to take the deal. I mean that would be a STUPID deal but we are talking about Cronin
 
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Ripcity4life77 said:
I have to ask one thing -- Why would the Cavs trade Allen away -- I am not as familiar with the Cavs in terms of money and such but I can see why the Blazers would do it -- saving money. I could be missing something and IF I am please educate me but he is not on a bad contract maybe a tad spendy at 20 per year but not crazy. I will ask again what am I missing cause I see no reason for the Cav's to trade a Top 10 to 15 center for a 20's 1st round pick and a under performing often injured SF.

Reason I said saving money is outside of Allen the Cav's have nothing to offer accept future cap saving like : 23rd pick and Little to Cavs for Cedi Osman who is on the last year of his deal and maybe a future 2nd or something. I could see this team being cheap and trying to get off Little's contract and offering a 1st as incentive to take the deal. I mean that would be a STUPID deal but we are talking about Cronin
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I don't think the Cavs will take a stupid deal for Allen but why they would trade him is because he isn't a good match with Mobley. So he is rumored to be on the block.
 
Ripcity4life77 said:
I have to ask one thing -- Why would the Cavs trade Allen away -- I am not as familiar with the Cavs in terms of money and such but I can see why the Blazers would do it -- saving money. I could be missing something and IF I am please educate me but he is not on a bad contract maybe a tad spendy at 20 per year but not crazy. I will ask again what am I missing cause I see no reason for the Cav's to trade a Top 10 to 15 center for a 20's 1st round pick and a under performing often injured SF.

Reason I said saving money is outside of Allen the Cav's have nothing to offer accept future cap saving like : 23rd pick and Little to Cavs for Cedi Osman who is on the last year of his deal and maybe a future 2nd or something. I could see this team being cheap and trying to get off Little's contract and offering a 1st as incentive to take the deal. I mean that would be a STUPID deal but we are talking about Cronin
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They wouldn't it's a bad deal for them. There is no other deal that works on our side though.

I will say, I'd like the Scoot/Dame/Shaedon three guard trio a lot more if we had Allen in the backside versus Nurkic.
 
AmirIcon said:
I'd love that. Why is he likely to get traded?
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Mitchell was their all in move, from here on out, they are competing. They had a run where they flamed out in the first round and the two-big lineup was exposed. Would a second first round exit make them want to move off Allen for other pieces? Maybe. Nurk, Little, and #23 does seem low for Allen though. You just cant give up nearly as many pieces as what MIN traded for Gobert, and Allen isn’t as good as Gobert.
 
I would love if Portland acquired Jarret Allen. Is it just me or does he look like he could be Sheed’s son?
 
I like Nurk picks for Allen

I think it'd have to be a 3 way as Cavs wouldn't want Nurk. Maybe Nurk to the Spurs.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
More rumors about how Draymond and GS have friction. I'd bet Dame is trying like hell to convince him to take the MLE. Here is a fun scenario;

1. Draft Scoot at #3
2. Trade Nurk NAS #23 future pick for DeRozen
3. Sing Draymond Green for the MLE
4. Sign Meyers Leonard for vet min

Dame - Scoot - Mays
Ant - Sharpe
DeRozen - Thybulle
Grant - Watford
Draymond - Meyers - Eubanks

Deepest Blazers team since 2000. Sub the lineups 5 men at a time and everyone plays 24mpg.
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Our #3 pick would be playing 13 mins a game. That is not what you do with a #3 pick.
 
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