Trade Idea Realistic trade options for summer of 2023

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James lamphear said:
Your not going get Brown or OG for Simons. I believe if Simons gets traded he will become a 6th man type player due to his defense and the same thing that the Blazers needs to consider.
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Not just Simmons...you have to match salary somehow and Ant is our salary guy...you can add assets to Ant to get those guys...Jimmy Butler is another I'd look at as well as DeRozan. Ant has a skill set that's in demand unlike a Nurk or Nas...I'd actually try and deal him to Miami and work out a Butler trade. Send Nas with him...both Florida natives. At any rate you have to speculate big this offseason...fringe moves aren't going to work after a decade of them..Vulcan is going to have to show a willingness to pay some luxury tax this year a well. If they're not then I'll echo the sell the team chant.
 
RR7 said:
I'm definitely not trading Simons AND a top 5 pick for OG. Simons straight up, yes. Simons and 23 becomes iffier. If they want 5, it comes with Nurk, and we get back 13. I've seen Orlando fans that would do #12 for Simons, so maybe it's a 3 way, 12 to Toronto, Simons to Orlando, OG here. Toronto then has 12 and 13 they could try to package to move up, or to trade for an asset around Siakim and Barnes.

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I like this idea
 
Natebishop3 said:
We don't have to keep those picks. And that's the same argument that people made about the Celtics trading Garnett/Pierce to Brooklyn..... and then Brooklyn was terrible and those picks were worth a ton.
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Do you think Dame falls off a cliff like those two players did?odds are much greater the team he goes to is a playoff team than not.
 
Natebishop3 said:
He’s not worth a top 5 pick. Certainly not Simons AND a top 5 pick. He’s a role player at best.
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I hear you, I just think Cronin’s urgency will be used against him in these negotiations. Fortunately the spectre of OG’s free agency will dial up Masai’s motivation as well.
 
Samuel said:
I hear you, I just think Cronin’s urgency will be used against him in these negotiations. Fortunately the spectre of OG’s free agency will dial up Masai’s motivation as well.
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I actually think that Dame making it public that he needs veteran help or (not saying it but saying it) he'll demand a trade, gives Cronin a lot of options. If team's try to lowball Joe, he can be in contact with other teams which gives the lowballing teams less leverage and that's if Joe is so dumb that he lets it out that the only options he is considering are those that include Dame staying. Joe should let it be known throughout the league that he is perfectly fine with a youth rebuild if he doesn't feel he is getting fair market value for draft picks. Then all of this supposed leverage that diminishes the value of our current picks and future picks goes right out the window.

It works the opposite way too, if Joe is really proactive this off season. He can tell teams calling about Dame that they have to give more than what they are offering or we'll keep Dame and overpay just a little if it comes to that to get that second all star.

Joe is in the opposite position of being backed into a corner, what Dame has done gives Joe all sorts of options. I want us to keep Dame badly and it seems like Joe does too but he has to be pragmatic at some point and he hopefully is making that clear to any team he is in negotiations with. Right now Joe has control over all of the picks that we have, he sounded like he has control over whether or not we have access to our future picks, he definitely has control over Dame because Dame just isn't the guy who would sit out. I'm not saying Joe would play hardball with Dame but it's not just spin to say that Joe is the guy with the control in this situation because he has two drastically different paths that he could pivot to and still spin as huge success to ownership and the fan base.
 
Samuel said:
where’s the dropoff, in your view?

2? 4?
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Great question asked. I personally think after #4. #1 is a given. For me #2 would be Miller and I would be hard pressed to trade that. #3 is 50/50 keep or trade because I like Walker from Houston. I think he would be a nice piece to a real team roster. We need to get back to a team roster. Not really big on the rest as far as being big team pieces. That may change as we get closer to the draft.
 
lamlor said:
Great question asked. I personally think after #4. #1 is a given. For me #2 would be Miller and I would be hard pressed to trade that. #3 is 50/50 keep or trade because I like Walker from Houston. I think he would be a nice piece to a real team roster. We need to get back to a team roster. Not really big on the rest as far as being big team pieces. That may change as we get closer to the draft.
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my 5, for Portland mind you, is Wemby, Scoot, Jarace, Hendricks, Ausar.

And I’d put Wemby and Scoot in a tier above the others.
 
Samuel said:
my 5, for Portland mind you, is Wemby, Scoot, Jarace, Hendricks, Ausar.

And I’d put Wemby and Scoot in a tier above the others.
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You could be 100% right on that. I have seen the 3 I mentioned and not the others so I can't speak to them. I know Scoot is suppose to be something else, but I have never seen him play plus building around a 6'2" PG is a little tougher to do. But if he is legit, and I will trust you on that, then ya partner him up with Sharpe and move forward with the duo.
 
Mediocre Man said:
What has Westbrook won? Great player does not always mean great fit to win
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To me, the issue with RW has not been his lack of shooting, but his overall lack of self awareness. I was constantly amazed how he seemed to think that he was better than Durant when they were both on the Thunder.

Example - why the hell did he take 19 shots when you're shooting 3-19?

They won, but holy smokes.....
 
Mediocre Man said:
What has Westbrook won? Great player does not always mean great fit to win
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I think people are comparing how strong and athletic Westbrook was when he was young. He could get to the rim at will. He could rebound and had the ability to play D when he wanted. What we don't know and can't compare yet, is what is between Scoot's ears compared to Russ
 
Mediocre Man said:
I don’t get the Scoot love. Dude shot 27% from 3 last year in the G league
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1. Nobody drafts a 19-year-old thinking they are a finished product.
2. A good point guard needs to do more than just shoot 3-pointers. Scoot can do more and should be able to do them at a high level.
 
blazerfan11 said:
1. Nobody drafts a 19-year-old thinking they are a finished product.
2. A good point guard needs to do more than just shoot 3-pointers. Scoot can do more and should be able to do them at a high level.
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Small pg with no outside shot
 
Charcoal Filtered said:
Morant and Westbrook have turned out pretty good and do not have stellar 3pt shooting numbers.
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at UCLA, Westbrook shot 35% on three's and 46% on FG's; Morant shot 34% on three's and 49% on FG's

Scott shot 27% on three's and 43% of FG's. His shooting is a legitimate concern. Now, it was a smaller sample size for Scoot, but still, if he's a crappy perimeter shooter it will significantly limit his game in the 'new' NBA
 
I think Cam Whitmore might be better in the league than a lot of guys projected ahead of him.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Small pg with no outside shot
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He is not small. The kid is chiseled at 196 with a huge vertical leap and a 6'9" wings span.
To say he has no outside shot seems premature. His shot looks fine, but yeah he needs to improve as most do. If he had made 3 more 3's he would have been at 33% . Either way, it makes no difference because he has value for most teams and the goal is to trade him.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
He is not small. The kid is chiseled at 196 with a huge vertical leap and a 6'9" wings span.
To say he has no outside shot seems premature. His shot looks fine, but yeah he needs to improve as most do. If he had made 3 more 3's he would have been at 33% . Either way, it makes no difference because he has value for most teams and the goal is to trade him.
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Correct. I was asked who else I’d take. I definitely hope we get the highest pick we can
 
RR7 said:
Yeah, I'm consistently confused on why people call Dame undersized.
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Agree with the sentiment that dame is not undersized but think it comes up frequently because or how often we have him switch onto wings/bigs.
 
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