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THE HCP said:
I don’t think his game needs defending to be honest. If he got the minutes constantly, I believe he will thrive. I share in another thread awhile back about all the extra work he puts in on the teams down time. He hits up gyms on the road and has coaches meeting him at the practice facility at all random hours of the night to get shots up. Not worried about his drive. He is just a chill guy in the mold of TMac or Ant. Doesn’t’ ever get hyped out there and I believe that puts off a certain type of vibe for fans. Trust me this kid works hard.
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Big bro is there any objective criticism you can ever make? Like try to give one lol
 
handiman said:
1) Scoot wasn't troubled by that, so it's either not an issue or Sharpe is the only player incapable of letting it go.

2) Simons' defense isn't nearly as bad as a few of you make it out to be. He puts in mostly good effort now, but he still gets pushed around. It often looks worse than it is, because he's usually the only defender on the floor worth hunting out on PnR's. He's certainly better on the perimeter (but not in the post) than Dame ever was.
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Has anyone noticed that teams that are tanking don't really hunt for Simons?
 
THE HCP said:
I can live with this. If he can did what he does on offense consistently, you can live with his lack of D. I’d say there are only what 5% of players in the league at best that dominate on BOTH ends
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Nobody expects him to "dominate" defensively. All anyone really wants is for him to be competent. Involved. Interested. So far, we have yet to see him be any of those things.

And let's be honest, Sharpe's offense isn't anywhere close to good enough to justify being a complete nothing on defense. If it were, we might have something to talk about.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Nobody expects him to "dominate" defensively. All anyone really wants is for him to be competent. Involved. Interested. So far, we have yet to see him be any of those things.

And let's be honest, Sharpe's offense isn't anywhere close to good enough to justify being a complete nothing on defense. If it were, we might have something to talk about.
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I’ll give him a couple more seasons. I’m very patient with kids coming in this young. I know Dame changed an entire fan base into believing they have to come in completely ready for the league when 99 percent aren’t.
 
THE HCP said:
I’ll give him a couple more seasons. I’m very patient with kids coming in this young. I know Dame changed an entire fan base into believing they have to come in completely ready for the league when 99 percent aren’t.
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You want to act as though people expect something unreasonable, but nobody really does. Nobody said he should be completely ready. But he should be completely invested. Two very different expectations.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Is there a reason you did not include Scoot's offensive rebound followed by a turnover ?
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Yes. It wasn't the original possession by the Blazers, which was a missed 3-point shot by Jeremi Grant, which is what I would call "The Offense."

That turnover is worth looking at again. Probably most people (including me) didn't notice what had happened.

When Jerami Grant took the 3-point shot, Donovan Clingan on the sideline sporting his white jersey stood up and raised his hand with three fingers. He kept his arm up after the shot was missed and was tracking where the ball was with his head (he is no longer looking at Jeremi Grant).

When Scoot went up in the air for the offensive rebound, he saw Clingan's outstretched arm, started to throw the ball to Clingan, then (I think) mid-throw realized Clingan wasn't in the game, tried to pull it back, but it went to a Jazz player under the hoop.

Scoot then looked at Clingan, who realized what had happened, put his face in his towel and hung his head in shame/disgust. Poor guy. (Does anyone else have a Meyers Leonard flashback?)

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Scoot Henderson, still the best percentage 3-point shooter in 2025 for the Trail Blazers.

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blazerfan11 said:
Scoot Henderson, still the best percentage 3-point shooter in 2025 for the Trail Blazers.

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So funny the people who said he sucked and would never be a good shooter.

If you work on your shot with enough reps and the right intention you will become a good shooter. Simple as that.
 
Phatguysrule said:
So funny the people who said he sucked and would never be a good shooter.

If you work on your shot with enough reps and the right intention you will become a good shooter. Simple as that.
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Exactly. Same will happen with Sharpe. Lots of people have little patience. In a couple years, we’re gonna be in really good shape.
 
Scoot is due for a good game here soon -

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Game Score was created by John Hollinger to give a rough measure of a player's productivity for a single game. The scale is similar to that of points scored, (40 is an outstanding performance, 10 is an average performance, etc.).

He's quietly upped his season game-score average to 9.5. To put that into perspective, Dame averaged 28.9 game-score during the 2019-20 season. An average starter on an average team (Bogdan Bogdanović 2023-24) averaged 12.1 game-score.

I'm impressed with his improvement. Let's keep that trend line going up!
 

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Phatguysrule said:
So funny the people who said he sucked and would never be a good shooter.

If you work on your shot with enough reps and the right intention you will become a good shooter. Simple as that.
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To your point, this is why the draft is such as crap shoot every year. There is no way for any of us to know how much a player will improve over time. We may hear about their work ethic but it is still somewhat of a guess. Most young players will and need to improve, how much they actually do ........is the question.
 
Phatguysrule said:
So funny the people who said he sucked and would never be a good shooter.

If you work on your shot with enough reps and the right intention you will become a good shooter. Simple as that.
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Well, you need basic talent but I think everyone in draft has that.

We heard Fame wouldn't improve, he had reached his ceiling.

I also remember hearing the same about Stephen Curry. Warriors wasted a pick. Anyone remember who went #1 in that draft?
 
Phatguysrule said:
So funny the people who said he sucked and would never be a good shooter.

If you work on your shot with enough reps and the right intention you will become a good shooter. Simple as that.
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People are stupid and overly reactive. Nuff said
 
Phatguysrule said:
So funny the people who said he sucked and would never be a good shooter.

If you work on your shot with enough reps and the right intention you will become a good shooter. Simple as that.
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This is the best thing to come out of this season so far: Scoot is putting in work and proving it. This bodes well for his career.
 
Scoot
Sharpe
Avdija
Camara
Clingan

If Cronin can turn the vets into assets and find gold in the draft our rebuild will soon end. We are one superstar away from becoming a contender in 2028
 
inconceivable said:
Scoot
Sharpe
Avdija
Camara
Clingan

If Cronin can turn the vets into assets and find gold in the draft our rebuild will soon end. We are one superstar away from becoming a contender in 2028
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curious....define superstar? Is it a consistent top-15 player or one clearly headed that direction like Wemby? Seems like a superstar would need to be in the all-NBA range

superstars just don't come around too often, last dozen years or so prime examples:

2011 - Kawhi
2012 - AD, Dame
2013 - Giannis
2014 - Embiid, Jokic
2015 - KAT? (barely/not really), Booker? (barely/not really)
2016 - none
2017 - Tatum
2018 - Doncic
2019 - Ja Morant? (nope - idiot) Zion? (nope - injuries)
2020 - none yet with Edwards maybe knocking on the door
2021 - none
2022- none yet
2023 - Wemby

in a 13 year period, really only 9 players with enough sustained excellence to be the type of superstars capable of leading a talented team into real contention. And 6 of those guys came into the league in 4 consecutive drafts from 2011-2014. In the last 10 drafts, only 3 'certified' superstars and one of those, Wemby, hasn't done anything substantial yet

that's not to say there haven't been some good player like Haliburton, or Kyrie, or Siakam or Adebayo or Jaren Jackson or Lamelo. But at best, those guys are a Robin (which is better than Dame ever had here), and while the Blazers need a Robin, they need him alongside a Batman. Finding Batman is a lot harder than finding Robin, and finding Robin is pretty hard itself, especially when drafting outside of the top-10
 
wizenheimer said:
curious....define superstar? Is it a consistent top-15 player or one clearly headed that direction like Wemby? Seems like a superstar would need to be in the all-NBA range

superstars just don't come around too often, last dozen years or so prime examples:

2011 - Kawhi
2012 - AD, Dame
2013 - Giannis
2014 - Embiid, Jokic
2015 - KAT? (barely/not really), Booker? (barely/not really)
2016 - none
2017 - Tatum
2018 - Doncic
2019 - Ja Morant? (nope - idiot) Zion? (nope - injuries)
2020 - none yet with Edwards maybe knocking on the door
2021 - none
2022- none yet
2023 - Wemby

in a 13 year period, really only 9 players with enough sustained excellence to be the type of superstars capable of leading a talented team into real contention. And 6 of those guys came into the league in 4 consecutive drafts from 2011-2014. In the last 10 drafts, only 3 'certified' superstars and one of those, Wemby, hasn't done anything substantial yet

that's not to say there haven't been some good player like Haliburton, or Kyrie, or Siakam or Adebayo or Jaren Jackson or Lamelo. But at best, those guys are a Robin (which is better than Dame ever had here), and while the Blazers need a Robin, they need him alongside a Batman. Finding Batman is a lot harder than finding Robin, and finding Robin is pretty hard itself, especially when drafting outside of the top-10
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The above list is NEW “superstars” arriving? Or you’re saying for a few years there were no superstars? Just asking.
 
THE HCP said:
The above list is NEW “superstars” arriving? Or you’re saying for a few years there were no superstars? Just asking.
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talking about adding "superstars" in the draft. I forgot SGA in 2018

out of last season's all-NBA teams, 7 of the 15 players are 30 or older, and 5 are 32 or older. Stars shine bright but some are fading
 
42N8Bounce said:
Scoot is due for a good game here soon -

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Game Score was created by John Hollinger to give a rough measure of a player's productivity for a single game. The scale is similar to that of points scored, (40 is an outstanding performance, 10 is an average performance, etc.).

He's quietly upped his season game-score average to 9.5. To put that into perspective, Dame averaged 28.9 game-score during the 2019-20 season. An average starter on an average team (Bogdan Bogdanović 2023-24) averaged 12.1 game-score.

I'm impressed with his improvement. Let's keep that trend line going up!
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It's hard to have a good game when he doesn't take many shots. He has been hovering around 10 shots per game, which even if he made 50% of those shots he's only going to get 10-12 points per night. The good news is that Scoot doesn't seem to care much about not getting shots. He wants to uplift his teammates.
 
wizenheimer said:
curious....define superstar? Is it a consistent top-15 player or one clearly headed that direction like Wemby? Seems like a superstar would need to be in the all-NBA range

superstars just don't come around too often, last dozen years or so prime examples:

2011 - Kawhi
2012 - AD, Dame
2013 - Giannis
2014 - Embiid, Jokic
2015 - KAT? (barely/not really), Booker? (barely/not really)
2016 - none
2017 - Tatum
2018 - Doncic
2019 - Ja Morant? (nope - idiot) Zion? (nope - injuries)
2020 - none yet with Edwards maybe knocking on the door
2021 - none
2022- none yet
2023 - Wemby

in a 13 year period, really only 9 players with enough sustained excellence to be the type of superstars capable of leading a talented team into real contention. And 6 of those guys came into the league in 4 consecutive drafts from 2011-2014. In the last 10 drafts, only 3 'certified' superstars and one of those, Wemby, hasn't done anything substantial yet

that's not to say there haven't been some good player like Haliburton, or Kyrie, or Siakam or Adebayo or Jaren Jackson or Lamelo. But at best, those guys are a Robin (which is better than Dame ever had here), and while the Blazers need a Robin, they need him alongside a Batman. Finding Batman is a lot harder than finding Robin, and finding Robin is pretty hard itself, especially when drafting outside of the top-10
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1st team all NBA
 
AldoTrapani said:


Scoot has done much better but I’m still taking amen
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I wish I bought Amazon stocks in 1999 too. We always know what we should've done witht the benefits of hindsight.

Having said that, it's early.

There are way too many players who play better than others picked ahead of them. It happens all the time.

Cheer for Scoot and the Blazers
 
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