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inconceivable said:
I hope you're wrong
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A friend of mine is an internist and the first thing she said is that she's not a hematologist but that it's less likely to be a chronic issue than if it were in his upper legs or his lungs but she said that it's concerning any time a young person starts having anything like this and it's even more concerning when it's an extremely tall person.
 
blazerkor said:
A friend of mine is an internist and the first thing she said is that she's not a hematologist but that it's less likely to be a chronic issue than if it were in his upper legs or his lungs but she said that it's concerning any time a young person starts having anything like this and it's even more concerning when it's an extremely tall person.
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I'm pretty sure a thrombosis can't originate in a lung. That's where a clot from a thrombosis can get lodged causing a pulmonary embolism...which can be fatal

as far as Wemby's height:

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but that he is 7'5 and that he developed DVT around the time he turned 21 are serious concerns

as far as the risk of being a chronic condition:

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so we really don't know much of anything other than generalities. We don't know his family history; the size of the clot; his response to treatment

frequent air travel can also pose a risk for people with a prior DVT because of repeated pressure change

it sucks he's going thru this and yes, it could it definitely could be life threatening. His BB career becomes a minor consideration compared to that
 

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Scoot flashed his special tools much more this year and the run he went on in January was hopefully a sign of what we will see more consistently in year 3.

Biggest thing that got me excited was the defensive focus and effort we saw from January on up until we weren't trying to win anymore. Started to use his strength and hands more and just overall was far more competitive on that end. The finishing package also expanded...getting comfortable using the his left hand around the rim and also looked to use his strength more often with slow steps and bump euros.

All this plus a healthy and productive offseason has me very excited for year 3 Scoot.
 
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JDC said:


Scoot flashed his special tools much more this year and the run he went on in January was hopefully a sign of what we will see more consistently in year 3.

Biggest thing that got me excited was the defensive focus and effort we saw from January on up until we weren't trying to win anymore. Started to use his strength and hands more and just overall being more competitive on that end. The finishing package also expanded...getting comfortable using the his left hand around the rim and also looked to use his strength more often with slow steps and bump euros.

All this plus a healthy and productive offseason has me very excited for year 3 Scoot.
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There are highlights that are more impressive than others. Scoot has some spectacular highlights. The potential for excellence is there. Especially considering
how hard he works at getting better
 
an interesting trade idea at RealGM:

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if the Blazers could trade Scoot + Timelord for Giddey on a 4 year deal at 27.5M/year + Portland's 1st back, would you do it?
 

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ant said:
Nope. I think Scoot will be both a better shooter and defender than Giddy.
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you do know that Giddey is only 1 year older than Scoot, right? actually, about 16 months older; it's not like he's 4 or 5 years older

as far as shooting:

FG%: Scoot .419....Giddey .465
2ptFG%: Scoot .469....Giddey .512
3ptFG%: Scoot .354....Giddey .378
eFG%: Scoot .496....Giddey .531
FT%: Scoot .767....Giddey .781
TS%: Scoot .540....Giddey .570

as for defense, last season, Giddey was 2nd on the Bulls in defensive rating with a mark 2.6 points better than the team. Scoot was 14th on his team with a mark 2.3 points worse than his team. Giddey was 2nd on the team in DBPM at +1.1. Scoot was 14th on his team with a DBPM of -0.8.

Giddey averaged 15-8-7 last season with 7 triple-doubles. He was 9th in the league in assists with a 2.48 assist/turnover ratio. Scoot's ratio was 1.89

Getting Giddey locked up on a 4-year/110M deal would be pretty good. Not sure he'd agree to it, but maybe. Getting Portland's pick back from the Bulls could be valuable, especially in 2028 when the Blazers have the swap with Milwaukee

ultimately I'm not sure I'd do the trade but it is pretty intriguing. Maybe lean yes
 
wizenheimer said:
you do know that Giddey is only 1 year older than Scoot, right? actually, about 16 months older; it's not like he's 4 or 5 years older

as far as shooting:

FG%: Scoot .419....Giddey .465
2ptFG%: Scoot .469....Giddey .512
3ptFG%: Scoot .354....Giddey .378
eFG%: Scoot .496....Giddey .531
FT%: Scoot .767....Giddey .781
TS%: Scoot .540....Giddey .570

as for defense, last season, Giddey was 2nd on the Bulls in defensive rating with a mark 2.6 points better than the team. Scoot was 14th on his team with a mark 2.3 points worse than his team. Giddey was 2nd on the team in DBPM at +1.1. Scoot was 14th on his team with a DBPM of -0.8.

Giddey averaged 15-8-7 last season with 7 triple-doubles. He was 9th in the league in assists with a 2.48 assist/turnover ratio. Scoot's ratio was 1.89

Getting Giddey locked up on a 4-year/110M deal would be pretty good. Not sure he'd agree to it, but maybe. Getting Portland's pick back from the Bulls could be valuable, especially in 2028 when the Blazers have the swap with Milwaukee

ultimately I'm not sure I'd do the trade but it is pretty intriguing. Maybe lean yes
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It's a lot closer if you look at Giddey's last year in OKC when they played similar minutes and Giddey was behind SGA.

But Giddey has averaged over 30 mpg for 3 of his 4 seasons. Scoot has never been given that opportunity.

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To me, Giddey's ceiling is much lower than Scoot's.

No thanks. Not doing that trade. Giddey is a role player. I think Scoot still has the potential to be a All-Star.
 
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It's a lot closer if you look at Giddey's last year in OKC when they played similar minutes and Giddey was behind SGA.

But Giddey has averaged over 30 mpg for 3 of his 4 seasons. Scoot has never been given that opportunity.

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but the trade isn't for Giddey after his 2nd or 3rd season; it's for Giddey now vs Scoot now. Considering Giddey is still 22 it's hard to assign more upside to 21 year old Scoot. Maybe Scoot will take a big leap in the next 2 seasons, but Giddey has already elevated his game and taken the leap. Bird in the hand

I get why you'd want to bet on the upside of Scoot; you've been one of his biggest supporters. But this isn't trading Scoot for another hope-for-upside prospect. It's trading for a very versatile 6'7 PG-Wing with triple-double ability who appears to be playing solid defense; and getting him for a pretty decent contract

by the way, over the last 25 games last season when the Bulls turned the team over to Giddey he averaged 20 points, 9.5 rebounds, and 8 assists while shooting 45% on three's.
 
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wizenheimer said:
but the trade isn't for Giddey after his 2nd or 3rd season; it's for Giddey now vs Scoot now. Considering Giddey is still 22 it's hard to assign more upside to 21 year old Scoot. Maybe Scoot will take a big leap in the next 2 seasons, but Giddey has already elevated his game and taken the leap. Bird in the hand

I get why you'd want to bet on the upside of Scoot; you've been one of his biggest supporters. But this isn't trading Scoot for another hope-for-upside prospect. It's trading for a very versatile 6'7 PG-Wing with triple-double ability who appears to be playing solid defense; and getting him for a pretty decent contract
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You mean Giddey now.... on a team where they had literally nobody else and he got the ball in his hands?

Scoot has never had the opportunity that Giddey has had.
 
Key things to look at:

First two years

Total minutes
Giddey - 4067 total minutes played
Scoot - 3524 total minutes played

Starts
Giddey - 130 starts
Scoot - 42 starts

MPG
Giddey - 31.1
Scoot - 27.5

Giddey just flatly had a better opportunity to play in his first two seasons.

It's interesting to see how similar their development has been from year one to year two in shooting.

Two points
Giddey (yr 1) 49.2% from 2
Scoot (yr 1) 41.6% from 2

Giddey (yr 2) 52.4% from 2 (+3.14%)
Scoot (yr 2) 47% from 2 (+5.4%)

Three points
Giddey (yr 1) 26.3%
Scoot (yr 1) 32.5%

Giddey (yr 2) 32.5% (+3.2%)
Scoot (yr 2) 35.4% (+2.9%)

eFG%
Giddey (yr 1) 46%
Scoot (yr 1) 44%

Giddey (yr 2) 51.6% (+5.6%)
Scoot (yr 2) 49.6% (+5.6%)

TS%
Giddey (yr 1) 47.8%
Scoot (yr 1) 48.9%

Giddey (yr 2) 53.3% (+5.5%)
Scoot (yr 2) 54% (+5.1%)
 
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