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cdub503 said:
yup got the same thing, they said it was for another fire -- the kenneth fire which looks to be on the west side of the valley kinda by agora hills a bit.

Also watched the runyon fire start up last night while i was grocery shopping just saw people staring and then i realized what i was actually seeing, they got that one out though i think.
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Hey brother! Keep us updated…..hope you are you people are safe.
 
My good friend down in LA had to evacuate him and his family last night….scary shit man. (I know how you feel about the Lakers, he is their broadcast producer, but let’s send him some good S2 vibes) IMG_5107.jpeg
 
THE HCP said:
My good friend down in LA had to evacuate him and his family last night….scary shit man. (I know how you feel about the Lakers, he is their broadcast producer, but let’s send him some good S2 vibes) View attachment 69714
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Not a Lakers fan, but am a fan of not having peoples houses they have been in decades burn down no matter who they are. Glad they are safe, thoughts are with them. Hope they get these fires out quick and their house is spared.
 
Chris Craig said:
Good to hear some people's houses survived like Bill Hader and James Woods.

Lots of non celebrities have lost their houses though. Hope the insurance companies don't try to bilk them.
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James Woods is a climate denier. I'm not overly ecstatic that his house survived.
 
SharpeScooterShooter said:
  • Cost per mile
    Underground lines can cost between $297,200 and $4.5 million per mile in urban areas, and between $18,000 and $24,000 per mile for overhead lines
The United States has over 600,000 circuit miles of alternating current (AC) transmission lines, including 240,000 miles of high-voltage lines. In addition, there are millions of miles of distribution lines that carry electricity to homes, businesses, and schools.

5mill x 2mill = 1e13


5 million miles of cable times 2 million per mile, which is less than half the projected high cost( trying to provide an average)

the cost is alot more than a few of you think.
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297,000×5,000,000 =
$1,485,000,000,000

1.5 trillion (over 10 years, so $150 billion per year) to bury all power lines and allow access to update all infrastructure (including replacing lead pipes, etc) and easily connect all homes to reliable fiber optic Internet and forcing competion for Internet providers honestly doesn't seem like that high of a cost.

I bet it would pay for itself within the following decade.

Thats not even 1/4 of our annual defense budget...

Though I guess you'd have to pay for the fiber optic cabling as well, but that probably wouldn't add much to the cost.
 
Phatguysrule said:
297,000×5,000,000 =
$1,485,000,000,000

1.5 trillion (over 10 years, so $150 billion per year) to bury all power lines and allow access to update all infrastructure (including replacing lead pipes, etc) and easily connect all homes to reliable fiber optic Internet and forcing competion for Internet providers honestly doesn't seem like that high of a cost.

I bet it would pay for itself within the following decade.

Thats not even 1/4 of our annual defense budget...

Though I guess you'd have to pay for the fiber optic cabling as well, but that probably wouldn't add much to the cost.
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Thats IF costs the were lowest predicted range without fault. You are using the lowest possible number. I used an average. I didn't even use the highest. How often do major projects like that come in under budget in our economy.

Your post isn't realistic because of this. Mine is, because it is an average. I guess we will have to agree to disagree with this. I believe the costs will not pay for themselves but cause larger costs.
 
For a lot less money, NASA could orbit a satellite to channel solar energy to salt huge rain clouds only within the California borders, while also providing free Blazer coverage to all phones and computers only within the Oregon borders.
 
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SharpeScooterShooter said:
Thats IF costs the were lowest predicted range without fault. You are using the lowest possible number. I used an average. I didn't even use the highest. How often do major projects like that come in under budget in our economy.

Your post isn't realistic because of this. Mine is, because it is an average. I guess we will have to agree to disagree with this. I believe the costs will not pay for themselves but cause larger costs.
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That's not really an average though. Because it can cost that much doesn't mean it costs that much half of the time.

And how much of that cost is permitting which could be waived for a government project? How much of that cost would be saved by doing it during already scheduled road repair?

There is very little doubt that the US government could afford this without blinking an eye.
 
I advise those of you in Los Angeles to watch Blazer games. Soon you'll feel superior and arrogant again. Also, you need comedy right now.
 
Phatguysrule said:
That's not really an average though. Because it can cost that much doesn't mean it costs that much half of the time.

And how much of that cost is permitting which could be waived for a government project? How much of that cost would be saved by doing it during already scheduled road repair?

There is very little doubt that the US government could afford this without blinking an eye.
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I already explained some of the pitfalls. You took the lowest possible cost. Not realistic. I took the mean and split the lowest possible and the highest possible and did the math. It could cost more than i stated as easily as it could cost less.
Power lines don't typically go in roads….that is the least cost effective way. This is largely why easements were developed. If power is run in the roads, every building needs a line, so now you have a mainline in the road and then a line at a 90 degree to ever building on both sides of the streets. Run the mainline on the side of the road and then you only need a line to each building on the other side of the street.
Putting power in the road would not work in many areas. Sewer and gas are already there. There are easement spacing requirements and depth requirements.
When roads are repaired, they tear up the top layer of asphalt and leave the others. Even if they went down to dirt to repair, it is still not digging into the ground in 95% of road repair cases.
I do not believe what you are suggesting is accurate at all.
 
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The next disaster will be when the next major rainstorm hits that area.
 
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