The 2022 Trade Idea Thread, now with more urgency! (2 Viewers)

[hoopsjock]

He’s from Orlando right? That might get interesting

Yeah, but the Magic currently have Markelle Fultz, Cole Anthony, RJ Hampton, and Jalen Suggs all under contract next season. Their needs could of course change but that doesn't seem like a situation where they'd overpay for another guard.

 

[Tweak]

Utah (potential RoCo destination) just opened up a roster spot

They've got 2 spots open now.

 

[Hoopguru]

Yeah, but the Magic currently have Markelle Fultz, Cole Anthony, RJ Hampton, and Jalen Suggs all under contract next season. Their needs could of course change but that doesn't seem like a situation where they'd overpay for another guard.

You are right in that they loaded with young guards. The Sixers are as well w/ Thybulle, Milton, Maxey, & Curry. Why would they be interested in an overpaid guard in CJ?
I do agree, unless they include or trade other guards either team may not be enamored with acquiring CJ.

 

[Hoopguru]

Yeah, but the Magic currently have Markelle Fultz, Cole Anthony, RJ Hampton, and Jalen Suggs all under contract next season. Their needs could of course change but that doesn't seem like a situation where they'd overpay for another guard.

Would you consider CJ for Porzingis?

 

[hoopsjock]

You are right in that they loaded with young guards. The Sixers are as well w/ Thybulle, Milton, Maxey, & Curry. Why would they be interested in an overpaid guard in CJ?
I do agree, unless they include or trade other guards either team may not be enamored with acquiring CJ.

I mean, if Philly really wanted CJ he'd probably be a 76er by now. I do think CJ is different than any of those guards you listed though.

 

[hoopsjock]

Would you consider CJ for Porzingis?

I'd consider it, sure. I'd probably try to find a 3rd team though.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

RoCo to Dallas

Moses Brown/filler to Portland

That’s his trade value currently — Moses has potential

 

[Hoopguru]

I mean, if Philly really wanted CJ he'd probably be a 76er by now. I do think CJ is different than any of those guards you listed though.

CJ & Curry to me are very similar type players.

 

[TBpup]

They wouldn't need to open up a roster spot to do a two for one deal though.

Of course not. Just some pieces that would fit that would still help Portland Lux Tax situation.

 

[Scalma]

I got a question. Let’s say we keep our pick this year. Could we trade it? Could we trade it conditionally now at the deadline? I’m thinking a Roco, CJ, and a lotto pick for Simmons has got to be more than acceptable. Not even sure I’d offer it, just wondering.

 

[RR7]

I got a question. Let’s say we keep our pick this year. Could we trade it? Could we trade it conditionally now at the deadline? I’m thinking a Roco, CJ, and a lotto pick for Simmons has got to be more than acceptable. Not even sure I’d offer it, just wondering.

Can't trade it conditionally. We can trade it the second we draft someone with it, however. So, we'd have to make the pick, and trade the rights to...

 

[Scalma]

Ok. Shut down Dame and increase Ant and Nas’ minutes.

Deadline: trade Powell for a younger wing/pick. Maybe Roco too. Dip the tax so we have the full MLE in the summer

Draft: CJ and lotto pick for Simmons, Siakam, etc.

So a mini reset and come back next year with at least a more balanced squad.

 

[hoopsjock]

Ok. Shut down Dame and increase Ant and Nas’ minutes.

Deadline: trade Powell for a younger wing/pick. Maybe Roco too. Dip the tax so we have the full MLE in the summer

Draft: CJ and lotto pick for Simmons, Siakam, etc.

So a mini reset and come back next year with at least a more balanced squad.

How about both lotto pick and Ben?

Shutdown Dame.

The key is getting our pick back from Chicago. RoCo for DJJ and our pick back (just gotta find a team to take DJJ for unwanted crap since we can't take him).

Then trade Norm for an okay young player, expiring contract(s), and a 1st. Something like Nesmith and a 1st or Naz Reid, Taurean Prince, and a 1st (doesn't have to be those but you get the idea, but for the sake of discussion let's roll with the Minnesota one).

Then we could offer something like CJ and 3 1sts (Our 2023 and 2025, and Minnesota's 1st) for Ben Simmons.

Edit: Maybe convince Ben that his mentals still need time to get right.

Next year we'd have Dame, Ben Simmons, Lotto Pick (higher the better), Ant (re-signed), Nance, Nas, Naz, and GB3 under contract. We could either keep Nurk and re-sign him or deal him at the deadline too, doesn't really matter. That's 7 rotation players without Nurk or 8 with him. Sign best possible free agent with the MLE and fill the holes with smart minimum contract signings.

 

[HailBlazers]

Not sure it's a good look to trade Norm after pushing him to resign here.

 

[Scalma]

From Sam Amick. Atlanta were one of the teams interested in Powell at last years deadline, at least according to Fischer. Would love to get reddish or hunter.

 

[wizenheimer]

Can't trade it conditionally. We can trade it the second we draft someone with it, however. So, we'd have to make the pick, and trade the rights to...

I would think if Portland finishes out of the playoffs they can trade it then because of the protection. I believe teams can make trades once their season is over although I'm not sure about any moratoriums between the end of the season and the draft

 

[SlyPokerCat]

Damn, might take more to ban a mod.

@SlyPokerDog, how much?

You would have to pay a lot. We can't ban King reach-a-round. Unless you want to start giving us all reach-a-rounds in his absence.

 

[hoopsjock]

I would think if Portland finishes out of the playoffs they can trade it then because of the protection. I believe teams can make trades once their season is over although I'm not sure about any moratoriums between the end of the season and the draft

As of right now, we can't trade a 1st round pick until either our pick conveys to the Bulls, there is another trade changing the protections of said pick, or until after the 2023 draft when 2030 picks become tradeable.

Like RR7 says, once a player is drafted, the rights can be traded without any sort of limitations from the Stepien Rule.

 

[wizenheimer]

As of right now, we can't trade a 1st round pick until either our pick conveys to the Bulls, there is another trade changing the protections of said pick, or until after the 2023 draft when 2030 picks become tradeable.

Like RR7 says, once a player is drafted, the rights can be traded without any sort of limitations from the Stepien Rule.

yeah, I spaced the rule against trading consecutive picks

obviously, if Portland has a lottery pick they can put a trade in motion well before the draft and just complete it on draft day

 

[boredinsalem]

What type of players make sense to go after if we're shutting Dame down for a year? Young players? Players in their prime on medium to long-term contracts? Players that fit with Anfernee and Dame?

I'd like us to try to ship out CJ (like everyone else) and Roco, and I'd really like to bring back players like Jerami Grant, Marcus Smart, or Davion Mitchell. Pipedream is Pascal Siakam. We can let them try to score and expand their games with the balance of this season (and develop chemistry with Simons, bring a defensive edge to the team, etc.). Then in the offseason we can make big a decision on whether Nurk fits and consider moving our pick (which should be in the lottery) for more firepower.

 

[Scalma]

What type of players make sense to go after if we're shutting Dame down for a year? Young players? Players in their prime on medium to long-term contracts? Players that fit with Anfernee and Dame?

I'd like us to try to ship out CJ (like everyone else) and Roco, and I'd really like to bring back players like Jerami Grant, Marcus Smart, or Davion Mitchell. Pipedream is Pascal Siakam. We can let them try to score and expand their games with the balance of this season (and develop chemistry with Simons, bring a defensive edge to the team, etc.). Then in the offseason we can make big a decision on whether Nurk fits and consider moving our pick (which should be in the lottery) for more firepower.

yeah you’re on the right track there. Younger players under control beyond this season and using our surplus at guard to balance out the roster, specifically at forward.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Not sure it's a good look to trade Norm after pushing him to resign here.

I don't think Billups would be happy either.

 

[Scalma]

I don't think Billups would be happy either.

billups knows and has mentioned specifically how undersized they are. I think he would welcome it.

 

[hoopsjock]

Players with injuries that are either out for the year or might not be ready to come back until late in the season might be good to target because it both helps us lose without trying, doesn't take away minutes from Ant/Nas, and provides reinforcements (potentially) for next year. Good teams with players out for the year might be more willing to make a move for someone who can help now.

Some players that come to mind (just listing them, not saying I want all these players):

James Wiseman
Jonathan Isaac
Markelle Fultz
Ricky Rubio (Bird Rights)
Dario Saric
Patrick Williams
TJ Warren (Bird Rights)
TJ McConnell
Brook Lopez
Zion Williamson (ha ha)
Derrick Rose
Zach Collins (ha ha)

 

[boredinsalem]

Players with injuries that are either out for the year or might not be ready to come back until late in the season might be good to target because it both helps us lose without trying, doesn't take away minutes from Ant/Nas, and provides reinforcements (potentially) for next year. Good teams with players out for the year might be more willing to make a move for someone who can help now.

Some players that come to mind (just listing them, not saying I want all these players):

James Wiseman
Jonathan Isaac
Markelle Fultz
Ricky Rubio (Bird Rights)
Dario Saric
Patrick Williams
TJ Warren (Bird Rights)
TJ McConnell
Brook Lopez
Zion Williamson (ha ha)
Derrick Rose
Zach Collins (ha ha)

Not sure how you forgot Jerami Grant.

 

[hoopsjock]

Not sure how you forgot Jerami Grant.

It was intentional, I'd be shocked if the Blazers made a move for him.

Dame tried to recruit him this summer on Team USA (Durant did too). He said he would be unhappy if he was traded from Detroit and doesn't want to play anywhere else. That's fine for him to feel that way, but I don't want players like that.

 

[Freshtown]

Players with injuries that are either out for the year or might not be ready to come back until late in the season might be good to target because it both helps us lose without trying, doesn't take away minutes from Ant/Nas, and provides reinforcements (potentially) for next year. Good teams with players out for the year might be more willing to make a move for someone who can help now.

Some players that come to mind (just listing them, not saying I want all these players):

James Wiseman
Jonathan Isaac
Markelle Fultz
Ricky Rubio (Bird Rights)
Dario Saric
Patrick Williams
TJ Warren (Bird Rights)
TJ McConnell
Brook Lopez
Zion Williamson (ha ha)
Derrick Rose
Zach Collins (ha ha)

I would love to get Jonathan Isaac. Talk about a wing defensive stud.

 

[illmatic99]

I would love to get Jonathan Isaac. Talk about a wing defensive stud.

Oft injured and unvaccinated overpaid pseudo role player?

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Operation Lu Dort

Just do it.

 

[RR7]

Something in a 3 way deal with Philly and Atlanta.
Atlanta sends out bogdanovic, hunter, reddish and picks for Simmons.
Philly sends out Simmons for CJ, hunter and picks.
We send CJ for bogdanovic and reddish, which I think someone here might have already suggested