I'm not saying we don't need some changes, just that we don't need to blow it up. If we can improve the team with a trade we should do it.
The people that advocate the status quo always suggest this in simplicity but never state what type of deal we should pursue.
Tradeable for a guy who wants out. Or a team who wants to cut salary. See the Paul George deal. Stuff like that.
Not this year, no. There may be next year.
We agree on this. I think Messina would be an upgrade. Budenholzer also. My first choice would be Messina. Been plugging for him for a couple years now.
There is some room to wiggle with the Mid level and both Harkless or Aminu. I'm not all in on doom and gloom until i see what Olshey does this summer.
They're interested in expiring because they're trying to dump bad salary (we shouldn't extend bad salary pay the next 2 years) or because they're trading a good piece and prefer expiring contracts along with whatever the main asset of the trade is. Teams are never looking to acquire expirings, usually they're trying to accomplish something and it's just preferred. So it's not a big factor.
Do you really expect to trade Harkless and Aminu for a sizeable upgrade? A low 1st round pick isnt going to make that difference.
he can't shoot
The Lakers definitely sought out expiring contracts last summer. They traded the #2 pick from a couple seasons prior just to get a big expiring and to dump another bad contract. Last summer if Leonard, Turner, and Harkless all had one year left on their deals instead of 3 the Pacers probably would've been more inclined to take them and our 3 picks for Paul George.
I am going to have to agree with Strenuus on this. I can't think of more than 1 or 2 posts where someone thought Mase was untradeable. And those posts only thought he was because of what he brought in the lockeroom to us and not that other teams wouldn't want him.
I think a lot of people thought there was no way we'd get a 1st round pick for him but he was a legit big on a rookie expiring contract. There is always trade value for someone like that.
You missed my point entirely.
No, I don't want more bad salary. What I want is the good stuff that comes along with taking on salary! The 76ers got some good shit from the Kings for taking on some bad contracts. We got a 1st round pick for taking on Varejao. The Nets got Russell for taking on Mozgov.
The core of that deal would've been Melo and draft picks. The core of other deals is combining assets to dump bad salary, or simply getting out of the financial obligations of a contract (I.e. Griffin). Getting expirings are never the core of the deal. The ire the sweetener, or the facilitator. No team is looking to acquire expiring unless they're trying to accomplish something else. That makes them not valuable enough in themselves to acquire a huge difference maker, given the context of 2019-2020 compared to before.
The Bulls were well below the salary floor so taking back no salary wouldn't have saved them any money. It also wouldn't have helped us stay under the tax line which was a clear goal this year.
That trade still would be a pick for Mirotic with expirings helping facilitate.
Either way, he wasn't a better contract or player than Mo.
Is that first question serious?...
Wow I had no idea Paul Allen was rich!
I didn't know those 3 were the only available candidates....Wow I had no idea Paul Allen was rich!
Why didn't he just hire Phil Jackson or Pop before now? Heck maybe they don't know he's rich... Maybe RC Buford doesn't know... I think you're really on to something! Exciting times!
Maybe I am wrong, but I don't think we have any expiring contracts. We had some at the trade deadline, but chose not to use them in a trade.
Next year was the conversation. But Aminu is expiring this year. Following year is Turner, Harkless, and Leonard.
No, I'm sure you're available.
Which is why our best option right now is probably to stick with Olshey and let him see this through. They can easily target a couple years from now as a rebuild year if necessary and make sure new contracts will allow flexibility. If Olshey thinks the problem is coaching he can go out and hire a new coach... we aren't too far away. Just a couple good moves.
