Trades possibilities....and what teams are open for business

[inconceivable]

Why?

Jerami only makes sense to them if they're going for the championship. Should Bron and/or AD get injured (God forbid) and their already low chance of contending goes to the drain, they will regret trading for Jerami, let alone overpay to do so. It's best to wait until the Olympics are over.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Think that's still a better approach than winning 33 games as the 13th seed, ending up with the 10th pick.

At the same time, reducing PT for our high profile prospects, and no answering questions about their future viability as building blocks.

I don't think Ayton takes minutes away from Clingan. Not for a while anyways. 24-28 minutes per game keeps the big guys fresh.

No one is taking away minutes from Deni
No one is taking minutes away from Shae.
Scoot will still get at least 28 minutes a game

I am ok with trading Grant, but the only prospects he will take minutes away from are Camara, Walker, and Murray. Is that really an issue? Regardless I am ok with getting a couple of picks and getting his contract off the books.

 

[HoopsFanAZ]

In early August, Rui + Gabe Vincent + Knecht + unprotected 1st rounder = Grant + Reath
[Someone else on this board or on realgm proposed this.][I would add-in a pick swap for Portland. Maybe Matisse for better size with Vanderbilt.].

It does fit both teams, IMHO. I hope a trade gets done.

 

[illmatic99]

I don't think Ayton takes minutes away from Clingan. Not for a while anyways. 24-28 minutes per game keeps the big guys fresh.

No one is taking away minutes from Deni
No one is taking minutes away from Shae.
Scoot will still get at least 28 minutes a game

I am ok with trading Grant, but the only prospects he will take minutes away from are Camara, Walker, and Murray. Is that really an issue? Regardless I am ok with getting a couple of picks and getting his contract off the books.

Walk me through your minute estimation with our current depth chart. I don't see the kinda minutes you are for Shae/Scoot/Deni/Toumani.

And there are not 20+ minutes for Clingan if both Ayton and Rob Williams are available

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Jerami only makes sense to them if they're going for the championship. Should Bron and/or AD get injured (God forbid) and their already low chance of contending goes to the drain, they will regret trading for Jerami, let alone overpay to do so. It's best to wait until the Olympics are over.

I highly doubt the Lakers would postpone a trade just for gaining the chance to backout if LBJ/AD gets an Olympics injury.

Highly unlikely they do get injured as USA players play very few minutes. The regular season is still many months later so nearly all injuries would be healed. Finally the Lakers have other roster moves to make so delaying a Grant trade could harm their ability to fill out depth.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

In early August, Rui + Gabe Vincent + Knecht + unprotected 1st rounder = Grant + Reath
[Someone else on this board or on realgm proposed this.][I would add-in a pick swap for Portland. Maybe Matisse for better size with Vanderbilt.].

It does fit both teams, IMHO. I hope a trade gets done.

If both sides want Knecht in the trade that's would be a reason it gets delayed, when he signed in the last week he cannot be traded for 30 days.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

And there are not 20+ minutes for Clingan if both Ayton and Rob Williams are available

Are you looking at game 1 or minutes over 82 games of the season?

Ayton and especially Timelord have a track record of missing major games every season.
Timelord can slide to the 4 some of the time and even when healthy plays few minutes.

We've had tons of starting minutes for all sorts of G League scrubs the last 3 years. There's plenty of minutes for all these guys over the seasons with the shit talent on our roster.

If your focused on Clingan getting 25+ mpg every game of the season starting in game 1 maybe it's an issue. I don't see why that should be a focus though: we have plenty of time to ease Clingan into minutes and a role, the guy is a 20 year old rookie.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Walk me through your minute estimation with our current depth chart. I don't see the kinda minutes you are for Shae/Scoot/Deni/Toumani.

And there are not 20+ minutes for Clingan if both Ayton and Rob Williams are available

Center
First off I am not trading Ayton just because Williams might take minutes from Clingan.
Let's see if RW3 can stay healthy first. That is a big IF

Backcourt if all are healthy. (Which recent history tells us won't happen)

Shae: 34
Simons: 32
Scoot 30

Rupert and Banton will have to wait for injuries or mop-up duty. I would trade Thybulle...... so Rupert would get those minutes.


Forwards:
Deni 32-
Grant 32-
Camara 32

As you can see it is Walker and Muray who would suffer from Grant being on the team.
But not Deni or Camara

 

[blazerkor]

I still think that this upcoming week with all of the GMs together will make some stuff happen and I think by the end of SL we could very easily see both Jerami and Ant moved. Things are different face to face than they are on the phone, especially when you can pull other GMs aside and see how much they could add to the deal as a third team.

 

[Road Ratt]

What's next for Blazers? Danny Marang joins Sports Sunday

 

[RR7]

Stolen from RealGM, from same poster who initially mentioned Avdija interest...

I'm hearing Portland has been offering up a "cheap depth package" that includes Matisse, Jabari and 1 of Timelord or Reath.
Looking to get in on a 3 team or larger deal.

 

[B-Roy]

Stolen from RealGM, from same poster who initially mentioned Avdija interest...

Link?

 

[RR7]

Link?

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=2391172&start=100#p114191455

 

[Natebishop3]

Stolen from RealGM, from same poster who initially mentioned Avdija interest...

Aka the Pelicans

 

[SharpesTriumph]

I still think that this upcoming week with all of the GMs together will make some stuff happen and I think by the end of SL we could very easily see both Jerami and Ant moved. Things are different face to face than they are on the phone, especially when you can pull other GMs aside and see how much they could add to the deal as a third team.

10-20+ years ago yes this used to be a thing.... Now it's all assistant GM doing the actual phone calls then each team goes back and discusses as a group. So no I don't think GMs being together in Vegas really matters.

I've been at summer league even last year, it's now a much larger event with tons of fans and media all over the place. Not a great venue for confidential trade talks.

 

[illmatic99]

Center
First off I am not trading Ayton just because Williams might take minutes from Clingan.
Let's see if RW3 can stay healthy first. That is a big IF

Backcourt if all are healthy. (Which recent history tells us won't happen)

Shae: 34
Simons: 32
Scoot 30

Rupert and Banton will have to wait for injuries or mop-up duty. I would trade Thybulle...... so Rupert would get those minutes.


Forwards:
Deni 32-
Grant 32-
Camara 32

As you can see it is Walker and Muray who would suffer from Grant being on the team.
But not Deni or Camara

This is a good breakdown. You make a fair assumption of positional flexibility, something I haven't considered.

 

[HailBlazers]

I've been at summer league even last year, it's now a much larger event with tons of fans and media all over the place. Not a great venue for confidential trade talks.

Especially with the lack of hotel rooms.

 

[blazerkor]

10-20+ years ago yes this used to be a thing.... Now it's all assistant GM doing the actual phone calls then each team goes back and discusses as a group. So no I don't think GMs being together in Vegas really matters.

I've been at summer league even last year, it's now a much larger event with tons of fans and media all over the place. Not a great venue for confidential trade talks.

Maybe people like Stein and Windhorst are too steeped in that older style of thinking but last season they said this in relation to the Dame situation.

Last year during SL seven different trades were made involving 13 teams, 11 players and more draft picks than I care to count.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

Center
First off I am not trading Ayton just because Williams might take minutes from Clingan.
Let's see if RW3 can stay healthy first. That is a big IF

Backcourt if all are healthy. (Which recent history tells us won't happen)

Shae: 34
Simons: 32
Scoot 30

Rupert and Banton will have to wait for injuries or mop-up duty. I would trade Thybulle...... so Rupert would get those minutes.


Forwards:
Deni 32-
Grant 32-
Camara 32

As you can see it is Walker and Muray who would suffer from Grant being on the team.
But not Deni or Camara

I don’t think Camara gets those minutes. Walker proved late last year his rebounding and scoring were better. I like Camara and think he has more upside but for now think those minutes go to Walker or get split with Walker and Camara

 

[illmatic99]

Spurs trade confirmed.

They turned their capspace into a pick swap that holds potentially massive value. Unprotected pick swap with SAC in 2031.

This is the sorta thing we coulda done had we cleared out our vets for space instead of letting them rot on the bench while tanking.

 

[B-Roy]

Spurs trade confirmed.

They turned their capspace into a pick swap that holds potentially massive value. Unprotected pick swap with SAC in 2031.

This is the sorta thing we coulda done had we cleared out our vets for space instead of letting them rot on the bench while tanking.

Or we could have just as easily been the ones that sold them for 2nds or just sign some useless vets a la Charlotte and Detroit. Easy to look at the one team that had capspace and did something good with it and not the other bottom dwellers that were in the same position and couldn't get anything out of it.

 

[wizenheimer]

summer league in Vegas...good thing BB played inside....it was 120 degrees in Vegas yesterday and 116 today

but it's a dry heat!!

 

[illmatic99]

Or we could have just as easily been the ones that sold them for 2nds or just sign some useless vets a la Charlotte and Detroit. Easy to look at the one team that had capspace and did something good with it and not the other bottom dwellers that were in the same position and couldn't get anything out of it.

i wouldn't call getting josh green for essentially free "useless"

 

[Natebishop3]

So Mike Richman said he couldn't come up with a decent Grant trade in his show today. Looking around the league, here are the teams that could realistically use him right now:

Cleveland
Heat
Hornets
Thunder
Clippers
Mavs
Pelicans
Lakers
Kings
Warriors

Who of those teams have resources?

 

[inconceivable]

I don’t think Camara gets those minutes. Walker proved late last year his rebounding and scoring were better. I like Camara and think he has more upside but for now think those minutes go to Walker or get split with Walker and Camara

I feel ghe same about Camara and Walker. No one is ahead of the other

 

[B-Roy]

i wouldn't call getting josh green for essentially free "useless"

they paid a few seconds for him, which was his value

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Ripcity4life77]

I looked at that list and no matter if some want to say different the Grant landing spots are drying up fast at least for now and prolly through first of the year or so then you will see teams reevaluate and then some options will re-emerge but now the options are limited to very limited in terms of getting what Grant is worth. Let me look at the list ... One other thing is some of these teams are 2nd Apron team meaning -Players cannot be aggregated in a trade -- making it harder to make trades with teams like this

Cavs - very little and do not even have a 1st round pick until 30' meaning they cannot even offer two firsts so they are --- OUT plus 2nd Apron
Heat - A tad more but the biggest piece the Blazers do not want / need ( Herro ) so guess what now --- OUT - 2nd Apron
Hornets - WHY -- Let me repeat WHY would they be so STUPID and I mean epic level of stupid to bring in a player that would hurt the growth of Miller and Salaun -- OUT
Thunder - I could see the Thunder MAYBE being a player BUT they have assets galore coming out of there asses why would they waste them on Grant instead of a Durant / Butler - FA nxt summer just to name two and prolly a few I am missing
Clippers - They have NOTHING this teams wants and super limited draft picks so .... OUT
Mavs - Maybe at the deadline but for now plus they have very little this team would want plus limited Draft capitol -- OUT
Pels - Well this team has 50% of what is needed they have draft capitol galore but unless they just decide to do a Grant for Ingram ( not happening ) then not out but -- SUPER UNLIKELY
Kings - Before bringing in DeMarr I would have said ya but now while possible I would say --- NOT LIKELY but maybe a tad more at deadline but still
Warriors - 2nd Apron team so unless they are willing to give up a Kuminga ( yeah right ) and if they were I think the Blazers would be giving up assets not other way around -- so -- NOT LIKELY
Lakers - We know they can and have ok assets but now it's a waiting game to see who blinks first

I think I have laid this out very well so NOW who wants to say the options have not dried up ?? -- cause they have at least for now dried up but at the deadline maybe something but now -- Lakers and pretty much that is it - FACTS

 

[illmatic99]

they paid a few seconds for him, which was his value

nope.

July 6, 2024 – Charlotte Hornets President of Basketball Operations Jeff Peterson announced today the team has acquired guard Josh Green, guard Reggie Jackson and 2029 and 2030 second-round picks via Denver in a six-team trade. As part of the deal, Charlotte sends a 2025 second-round pick (via Philadelphia) and cash to the Nuggets.

 

[B-Roy]

nope.

July 6, 2024 – Charlotte Hornets President of Basketball Operations Jeff Peterson announced today the team has acquired guard Josh Green, guard Reggie Jackson and 2029 and 2030 second-round picks via Denver in a six-team trade. As part of the deal, Charlotte sends a 2025 second-round pick (via Philadelphia) and cash to the Nuggets.

I'm pretty sure the Charlotte presser is wrong lol. It was a 6 team trade, not surprising some details were confused by PR folks. Two seconds were sent by Charlotte to Dallas. One was kept by Dallas. The other was then routed to GSW for Klay, which was then routed AGAIN to Philly for Buddy Hield. They received the 2 seconds for taking on Jackson. So it ended up being net neutral for Charlotte, if we're being nitty on the details.