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Ron you need to get outside of Little Rock and Huffpo internet, lol!


You are aware that the US has extensive nuclear hardened bunkers right? DC has myriad of tunnels?

The Swiss have enough capacity for their entire population with cities under mountains.

When I said “we” survive that was the collective we. Only the important folks get a ticket, that’s never been in doubt.

The world punted on nuclear proliferation and our course was set. I’m not going to be Pollyanna about it.

No sci-fi, no tap dancin’.
 
totus44 said:
Ron you need to get outside of Little Rock and Huffpo internet, lol!


You are aware that the US has extensive nuclear hardened bunkers right? DC has myriad of tunnels?

The Swiss have enough capacity for their entire population with cities under mountains.

When I said “we” survive that was the collective we. Only the important folks get a ticket, that’s never been in doubt.

The world punted on nuclear proliferation and our course was set. I’m not going to be Pollyanna about it.

No sci-fi, no tap dancin’.
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...lol...

1. I don't live in Arkansas and have never been there...strike one.

2. I don't read Huffington Post...strike two.

3. Strike three, you're still missing the point and avoiding the question. But I'll ask for the FOURTH time, ...after all out nuclear war and after a planet threatening nuclear winter, and after the world economy collapses, and with little infrastructure, little electricity and electronics and communication networks, who of these "important folks" of yours is going to be the ones to actually physical build, supply, and maintain your science fiction spaceship to colonize on another planet?

...sure there might be isolated areas where people could survive, for awhile but for how long and under what conditions?...the fact if the matter is you have no idea whatsoever of what the actual worst case scenario in the aftermath of an all out nuclear war ... pardon me if instead of conceding that WW III is upon us, I'd rather identify, address, and find solutions to global problems. Seems to me that you think that the only solution is to blows the world up...sorry, but I completely disagree.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...lol...

1. I don't live in Arkansas and have never been there...strike one.

2. I don't read Huffington Post...strike two.

3. Strike three, you're still missing the point and avoiding the question. But I'll ask for the FOURTH time, ...after all out nuclear war and after a planet threatening nuclear winter, and after the world economy collapses, and with little infrastructure, little electricity and electronics and communication networks, who of these "important folks" of yours is going to be the ones to actually physical build, supply, and maintain your science fiction spaceship to colonize on another planet?

...sure there might be isolated areas where people could survive, for awhile but for how long and under what conditions?...the fact if the matter is you have no idea whatsoever of what the actual worst case scenario in the aftermath of an all out nuclear war ... pardon me if instead of conceding that WW III is upon us, I'd rather identify, address, and find solutions to global problems. Seems to me that you think that the only solution is to blows the world up...sorry, but I completely disagree.
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Dude I know where the fuck you live. It's called sarcasm, please note the font I use for posts.

You have quoted and hypetlinked multiple huffpo articles.

Ron this is the point. "Nuclear winter" is the same shit the global warming fucks are trying push. Total equivalent TNT usage for all out Ww3 is on par with 5 years of Ww2. We had no winter.

There will be a major of locations on this planet untouched by WW3. Who is going to nuke the southern hemisphere?

<Sarcasm font> it's a much bigger fucking planet than little rock. Get off your ass and go see some of it while you can. ;)
 
totus44 said:
Dude I know where the fuck you live. It's called sarcasm, please note the font I use for posts.

You have quoted and hypetlinked multiple huffpo articles.

Ron this is the point. "Nuclear winter" is the same shit the global warming fucks are trying push. Total equivalent TNT usage for all out Ww3 is on par with 5 years of Ww2. We had no winter.

There will be a major of locations on this planet untouched by WW3. Who is going to nuke the southern hemisphere?

<Sarcasm font> it's a much bigger fucking planet than little rock. Get off your ass and go see some of it while you can. ;)
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...lol...first you claim "sarcasm" based on some mysterious "font"...then you seriously claim I've linked multiple huffpost articles...doesn't sound like sarcasm to me. I've linked probably hundreds of "articles" from many sources, what's your point?

...comparing all of the world's nukes and it's after affects to the bombs of WWII is laughable. (note non-huffpost link below)

https://www.google.com/search?q=is nuclear winter possible&oq=is nuclear winter really possible?&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0.16672j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

...and no, the "point" is again that you have absolutely NO idea what the aftermath of an all out nuclear war will be because well, it has not happened. Sorry, but you cannot prove a negative. You cannot predict what will or will not happen to the Earth's ecosystem, the infrastructure, the economy, etc. So, you cannot predict with any certainty what will happen to possible survivors.

...can you also guarantee, that your WWIII will forever eliminate future problems concerning racial problems, national border disputes, capitalism, and especially religion?



...finally, I'm not surprised that you still have not answered the main question about your master plan concerning recolonization on other planets after "WWIII"...do you have an answer or not? (for the FIFTH time) If you cannot/will not outline your plan there's really no need to debate this dead horse any further.
 
totus44 said:
Ron is really a member of the Clinton family....
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...yes, because again, using your ever-flawed logic, anyone who despises Trump is by default a Democrat and/or a "libtard".

...brilliant, simply fucking brilliant.
 
totus44 said:
Ron this is the point. "Nuclear winter" is the same shit the global warming fucks are trying push. Total equivalent TNT usage for all out Ww3 is on par with 5 years of Ww2. We had no winter.
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^^^still pointing and laughing at this

Enjoy; http://www.nucleardarkness.org/globalnucleararsenal/globalnucleararsenalcomparaison/

^^^ (yet another non-huffpost link)

...and oh, your glorious "Swiss bunkers" were mostly designed to withstand only a mere 20 megaton blast when they were originally designed and built many many years ago...and most have since fallen into disrepair and many others have now been converted into museums, hotels, and shelters for the homeless.



...you're making this way too easy for me...not much of a challenge at all.
 
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totus44 said:
you're as vapid as you are smug.
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...wait, you're insulting me again by hypocritically calling me "vapid"... lol, again, you're making this way too easy...you might wanna look up the definition because what you've been doing is truly "vapid" personified.

I've now asked you SIX times a very simple question which you refuse to answer and also stated that if you could not offer up something tangible to back up your "master plan" for our future after "WW III", there's really no point in responding.

...sorry if the truths hurts but I've provided facts to support my opinions and debunking yours, while you have provided simple bravado.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...lol...first you claim "sarcasm" based on some mysterious "font"...then you seriously claim I've linked multiple huffpost articles...doesn't sound like sarcasm to me. I've linked probably hundreds of "articles" from many sources, what's your point?

...comparing all of the world's nukes and it's after affects to the bombs of WWII is laughable. (note non-huffpost link below)

https://www.google.com/search?q=is nuclear winter possible&oq=is nuclear winter really possible?&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0.16672j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

...and no, the "point" is again that you have absolutely NO idea what the aftermath of an all out nuclear war will be because well, it has not happened. Sorry, but you cannot prove a negative. You cannot predict what will or will not happen to the Earth's ecosystem, the infrastructure, the economy, etc. So, you cannot predict with any certainty what will happen to possible survivors.

...can you also guarantee, that your WWIII will forever eliminate future problems concerning racial problems, national border disputes, capitalism, and especially religion?



...finally, I'm not surprised that you still have not answered the main question about your master plan concerning recolonization on other planets after "WWIII"...do you have an answer or not? (for the FIFTH time) If you cannot/will not outline your plan there's really no need to debate this dead horse any further.
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>Had to illustrate.f191df1a9c2145f886c59f87b83bf57dSDtarship.jpg
 
totus44 said:
https://t.co/yXagAwNkSC?amp=1

Link to opinion piece: Could both parties be doomed?
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...I certainly hope so...never understood the justification for the inane and counter-productive system we have right now.

..and for what it's worth, I think the new thinly-veiled tax bill is a complete joke... it has nothing to with making things better and has everything to do with politics. If they temporarilly and drastically cut corporate taxes and drastically cut taxes for both the upper class and middle class, what happens to the deficit?
 
Tax cuts do increase the tax base. Resulting in increased tax revenue. 35% tax on zero where Corp have their capital overseas, vs 15-20% of many billions ends up turbo boosting economy. Worked before provided Corp America is ready to repatriate cash. You can’t grow a business if you can’t invest in new buildings, equipment or people.

I’m sure they are talking to CEO buddies to get them on board.
 
thKirk chokes himself.jpg Even James T. Kirk can't stand politics these days. PS:
Denny Cranes' younger brother overacting.:smiley-lol_hitting:
 
totus44 said:
Tax cuts do increase the tax base. Resulting in increased tax revenue. 35% tax on zero where Corp have their capital overseas, vs 15-20% of many billions ends up turbo boosting economy. Worked before provided Corp America is ready to repatriate cash. You can’t grow a business if you can’t invest in new buildings, equipment or people.

I’m sure they are talking to CEO buddies to get them on board.
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...no, it does not "increase tax revenue" (fuzzy math), it is estimated that this plan will actually DECREASE tax revenue by $1.7 TRILLION dollars... and the resulting deficit?...are you suggesting that the already grotesque deficit won't become even larger due to this tax plan our leaders are thumping their chests over?

...I'll say it again, this new tax plan is all about temporarily appeasing voters and is strictly a political ruse to gain favor with voters. The tax refunds that will result from this plan will only temporarily boost the economy (ruse).
...and when the bubble bursts and the deficit grow even larger (and it will) the politicians will then say "Oh, we've got to reduce the deficit! ". And they'll then introduce new legislation to counter/reverse this current "sleight of hand" trick...same shit, different day.


...hate to break it to you, but as I've maintained from the very beginning, the GOP as we know it, is doomed...yesterday's elections are a harbinger of things to come. The Dems will soon be back in control and then we'll have to deal with their BS again.
 
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Ah last I checked NJ and Virginia were already blue states. Not sure it’s much or a harbinger, lol!

GOP fate is in their hands, if they demonstrate that they can get things done then they will retain control. DEM have a civil war themselves and they aren’t offering any compelling reasons to vote for them either given how badly they fucked up healthcare, war on terror, economic recovery, etc.
 
...first off, NJ and Virginia were far from the only elections on Tuesday...secondly, yes, the Democratic Party have a problem themselves but their voters and more importantly, swing voters evidently do not, and they came out in force, and the margins of victory were totally unexpected. There were multiple cases in the elections of positions on Tuesday that were once traditionally/previously Republican that were upsets and went to the Democrats.

...and exactly what have you seen thus far that would lead you to believe that the GOP "can get things done"?...they've had 8 freaking years to figure out how to "repeal and replace" Obama care but now they cannot even agree on the color of shit.

...spin it however you like if that makes you feel better about the GOP's plight, but if you truly believe that Trump's unpopularity as well as a dysfunctional Senate is not a factor and won't be a factor in midterm elections, you are fooling yourself...so yes, Tuesday's elections are in fact "a harbinger".
 
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