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But Ron you too are spinning how you like as well.

Off year elections are not necessarily predictive. Don't disagree with your dissatisfaction with GOP, but I will NEVER vote DEM. I haven't had a party to believe in or trust in a long time. But my votes align right if only to oppose the left.

Thus I will cheer anything that meets contributes to constitutional values, fiscal and social conservatism and strengthening our national defense.
 
BTW, encouraging to see Xi and Trump finding common ground on NK.

Like I said back in May, I think Trump has higher poll numbers in China than US, lol!
 
totus44 said:
But Ron you too are spinning how you like as well.

Off year elections are not necessarily predictive. Don't disagree with your dissatisfaction with GOP, but I will NEVER vote DEM. I haven't had a party to believe in or trust in a long time. But my votes align right if only to oppose the left.

Thus I will cheer anything that meets contributes to constitutional values, fiscal and social conservatism and strengthening our national defense.
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honestly, the last time I felt good about voting for a POTUS was Reagan, as I bet most here feel the same....

saw a 1/2 hr piece with Mark Cuban on CNBC, on the thought of running for POTUS in 2020, interesting, tho' I don't know one single thing he represents politically....

what's the world coming to, when reality TV has enabled a potus, with more to follow???? Imho, I doubt most American's really comprehend every single viewpoint, or even the majority of such; of Candidates running for potus.....

then again, with Politicians these days constantly flip flopping, it's hard to know what any politico stands for....

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/09/mark-cuban-says-he-would-run-as-an-independent-for-president.html
 
totus44 said:
BTW, encouraging to see Xi and Trump finding common ground on NK.

Like I said back in May, I think Trump has higher poll numbers in China than US, lol!
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Now if he can do the same with Russia, -
ally ourselves with both China and Russia vs the NORKS.....

imo- I believe Trump's going to have a much harder time getting Putin to take the ally stance with the US vs NORK's, as Russia has too much to gain financially doing business with NK, due to strained relations b/t NK and China....
 
But not enough business with NK as the US and EU sanctions are costing Russia.
 
totus44 said:
But Ron you too are spinning how you like as well.

Off year elections are not necessarily predictive. Don't disagree with your dissatisfaction with GOP, but I will NEVER vote DEM. I haven't had a party to believe in or trust in a long time. But my votes align right if only to oppose the left.

Thus I will cheer anything that meets contributes to constitutional values, fiscal and social conservatism and strengthening our national defense.
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...I didn't spin anything...I produced facts....big difference.

...admit it, at first you were bashing Trump as much as me, then he somehow got elected and you've been defending him ever since...sorry, I just don't get it. At least I've been consistent since the very beginning.

...if you have any amount of cognitive thinking (and I know you do) you need to admit that Trump is simply not fit to serve as POTUS and has made things worse, both at home and abroad.
 
Has anyone ever thought that Trump won because of the dumbing down of America. Trumps name and face reached millions more than most local politicians with his show the apprentice.

It wont be a shock to see future presidents be a mark Cuban or The Rock...less career politicians and more individuals people feel they know because they have seen them on tv so much.
 
BigDaddyAl1973 said:
Has anyone ever thought that Trump won because of the dumbing down of America. Trumps name and face reached millions more than most local politicians with his show the apprentice.

It wont be a shock to see future presidents be a mark Cuban or The Rock...less career politicians and more individuals people feel they know because they have seen them on tv so much.
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Imo, the first was-
Ronnie Reagan, cowboy, actor, radio announcer, Gov.; POTUS.... tho' the one thing about his 8 yrs I wasn't overly fond with, was the Tax Revenue overhaul. In hindsight (yrs later) seemed to me Ron did the proper thing, erased tax write offs for vehicles, credit cards, et al; and saved the US treasury billions....

imo, I believe most American's voting for Reagan, saw him as a legit Politician rather than an ex-actor.... Loved his perfomance in: 'The Winning Team' as Grover Cleveland Alexander....

and-
Yep, Al, I think you hit the nail square on the head, ie "the dumbing down of america"....
 
BigDaddyAl1973 said:
Has anyone ever thought that Trump won because of the dumbing down of America. Trumps name and face reached millions more than most local politicians with his show the apprentice.

It wont be a shock to see future presidents be a mark Cuban or The Rock...less career politicians and more individuals people feel they know because they have seen them on tv so much.
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...I think the ONLY reason Trump was elected is because he was the only one on the ballot not named Hillary Clinton.
 
Trump isn't defensible. That said I'm maintaining an open mind that the GOP can get some key things done. Would have preferred Ted or Marco.

My wish list:

National concealed carry
Hearing protection act

At least one more strict constructionist on the SC.

Flat tax, gut IRS

Balance budget amendment

English as the only recognized language
Immigration reform, no amnesty, no path to citizenship. Felony for abetting illegals to eliminate sanctuary city/state

Eliminate Dept of Education, kick back to states.

Prefer full Ocare repeal. Let markets dictate care.
 
How about ICE deports business men willfully employing undocumented workers
 
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totus44 said:
Trump isn't defensible. That said I'm maintaining an open mind that the GOP can get some key things done. Would have preferred Ted or Marco.

My wish list:

National concealed carry

^^^THIS

Hearing protection act

At least one more strict constructionist on the SC.

Flat tax, gut IRS
^^^THIS


Balance budget amendment

English as the only recognized language
^^^THIS

Immigration reform, no amnesty, no path to citizenship. Felony for abetting illegals to eliminate sanctuary city/state

Eliminate Dept of Education, kick back to states.
^^^THIS


Prefer full Ocare repeal. Let markets dictate care.
^^^THIS

(See, we're not that far apart after all) :bgrin:
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yankeesince59 said:
...wait a minute, it's OK for Trump to "reach out and grab their pussy" multiple times but it's not OK for someone to grope a female just once?....check.





...what a hypocritical POS.
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^^^^ the man whose lived in a glass house, or tower, with nothing in hand (other than his Tweet Twit i-phone) but a hand full or stones....

his rant on Twitter last night reveals a maniac unfit to lead, a hypocrite of epic proportion; who'd answer about his own groping of women, "well I was voted in" so that must be the consensus of his innocence, the pos, or is that potus, ???

the GOP's going to need a total rebuild, ground up, ie re-definition of its own base/platform in the post Trumpfk years to come....
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/16/us/politics/north-korea-missile-defense-cyber-drones.html

this figures- Trumpfk, with errant arrogance over data, facts, real stats, not close to his false claims. His General's you'll never hear boast of 97%....

President Trump has praised the existing missile defense system, insisting last month that it “can knock out a missile in the air 97 percent of the time,” a claim that arms controls experts call patently false. In trial runs, conducted under ideal conditions, the interceptors in Alaska and California have failed half of the time. And the Pentagon has warned administration officials that the North will soon have enough long-range missiles to launch volleys of them, including decoys, making the problem far more complex.
 
Mattingly23NY said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/16/us/politics/north-korea-missile-defense-cyber-drones.html

this figures- Trumpfk, with errant arrogance over data, facts, real stats, not close to his false claims. His General's you'll never hear boast of 97%....

President Trump has praised the existing missile defense system, insisting last month that it “can knock out a missile in the air 97 percent of the time,” a claim that arms controls experts call patently false. In trial runs, conducted under ideal conditions, the interceptors in Alaska and California have failed half of the time. And the Pentagon has warned administration officials that the North will soon have enough long-range missiles to launch volleys of them, including decoys, making the problem far more complex.
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^^^I had no idea that our home based anti-missiles were so inefficient.
 
...lmao...now Bartiromo is claiming her words were "taken out of context"?

..."fake news"....lol, can't make this shit up.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...Fox news !

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...asketball-lavar-ball-china-jeff-a8066646.html


...lol.
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this is the second time I have heard/saw someone from Fox News going against the President...the first was the uranium one story and now this...

I said this before...only an ego maniac could turn a good thing into something stupid...demanding gratitude ...whats next...visit the white house and demand people leave a tip in a tip jar for being in the same air as President Twitter?
 
BigDaddyAl1973 said:
this is the second time I have heard/saw someone from Fox News going against the President...the first was the uranium one story and now this...

I said this before...only an ego maniac could turn a good thing into something stupid...demanding gratitude ...whats next...visit the white house and demand people leave a tip in a tip jar for being in the same air as President Twitter?
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...Trump's base is shrinking...and I think there are more GOP politicians who are more concerned with getting re-elected instead of simply doing what is right. And I also think we'll see more and more people deserting Trump and his alternate universe.
 
I wish the GOP growing stones was that easy. But my only consolation is that the Dems has gone full civil war themselves.

However can't say they can keep all this up past Black Friday and Cyber Monday, we are at the holidays and the media has ads to sell.
 
I want to give everyone a heads up before you see the news....
Back in 1978 I had yanked on Geoffrey's, the Toys R Us giraffe, tail ..I did this because he didn't give me attention when I wanted to let him know what I wanted for Christmas. I realize now that I was wrong and should not have touched him in his sensitive organ...

If I am not posting after today you all will know why....

I am sorry
 
BigDaddyAl1973 said:
I want to give everyone a heads up before you see the news....
Back in 1978 I had yanked on Geoffrey's, the Toys R Us giraffe, tail ..I did this because he didn't give me attention when I wanted to let him know what I wanted for Christmas. I realize now that I was wrong and should not have touched him in his sensitive organ...

If I am not posting after today you all will know why....

I am sorry
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:roflmao::roflmao:
repentent, and coming clean are ya'.....lmao, next stop "full metal Jacket" on Ronnie McDonald- and Chuckie Cheese- ??

are you running for a school board position, or town hall....???
 
BigDaddyAl1973 said:
I want to give everyone a heads up before you see the news....
Back in 1978 I had yanked on Geoffrey's, the Toys R Us giraffe, tail ..I did this because he didn't give me attention when I wanted to let him know what I wanted for Christmas. I realize now that I was wrong and should not have touched him in his sensitive organ...

If I am not posting after today you all will know why....

I am sorry
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...you Sir, are going to hell ! :bgrin:
 
BigDaddyAl1973 said:
I am the Treasurer of my son's high school football booster club...im a very public figure out here lmfao
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be extremely careful Andrew Weiner blew it for all hard working- public servants in positions of trust. His vacancy became a microscope upon all public servants. Your phone's are bugged, your smart phone and any I-Net media is hacked, bugged now.

You are know an easy target, leave a paper trail the rest of your life, to prove you didn't fondle any one other than the Toys R Us giraffee, it may come out of the closet to haunt you 10 yrs from now....

"Big Al for PTA Prez- 2018"
 
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