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yankeesince59 said:
...1. don't presume to know which news sources I read because you really have no clue as to what I do or what I read. Furthermore, I choose not to be myopic and so I read many outlets in order to hear from both sides of the aisle to form a more rounded opinion about things. I also find it laughably hypocritical that you view news outlets who tend to favor the left as as the only ones who are "biased" in their reporting.

...2. I already knew Pelosi traveled in private jets...I just was not aware of how much it costs.

...3. all better now?
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Make no mistake, there is nothing equal about left bias and right bias. And I'm not a fan of the right when they say...But the left does it too. But I'm 100% confident in saying that there is zero objectivism left at CNN, NYT, etc.

Goldberg sums up my views nicely here...

http://www.nationalreview.com/g-file/445477/jeff-sessions-media-bias-donald-trump-age


In case you missed McCarthy on the Russian story....

http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...paigns-communications-russia-dont-warrant-one
 
totus44 said:
Make no mistake, there is nothing equal about left bias and right bias. And I'm not a fan of the right when they say...But the left does it too. But I'm 100% confident in saying that there is zero objectivism left at CNN, NYT, etc.

Goldberg sums up my views nicely here...

http://www.nationalreview.com/g-file/445477/jeff-sessions-media-bias-donald-trump-age


In case you missed McCarthy on the Russian story....

http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...paigns-communications-russia-dont-warrant-one
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...lol...no, I'm aware of both of those NR tidbits...but I don't see what that has to do with you pretending to somehow know which news outlets I peruse.

...like I said, I choose to pretty much read them all...I may or may not agree with what some of them say, but I read them anyway...and then formulate my own opinion.


...and sorry, but that does not by default make me "libtard infected" as you wrongly claimed a couple of weeks ago and informed me that I "don't understand the Constitution" then dismissed my opinion by simply telling me to "go smoke another doobie"..
 
stampedehero said:
At this point we need 5 parties, A psychological examination of all candidates by an independent source, Dismissal of their conflicts, no tweeting, no personal emailing and a promise or impeachment
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I had to realize Trump tweets to dictate his pure thoughts rather than let media form their opinions within their visions. I had never seen a battle like this. Obama played this matter off as a sideline but Trump takes on the entire group as an enemy. This tells me he is really a scornful figure who cannot leave a comment alone. He could have directed this form of communication with a classy style all his own. However, his narcissistic personality turns me away from my admiration for the office of President.
 
This guy is so fucking toxic. He has disgraced "The Presidency"........now he wants an investigation stating Obama has
'wiretapped' his White House. DISTRACTION with a purpose. What does he not want Americans and the world to know?
ABSURD.......DELUSIONAL.....HATEFUL.....VENGEFUL.....DISHONORABLE......and on and on. IT JUST DOES NOT FUCKING STOP!
 
^^^I was reading about the wiretapping accusations and I really don't know how Trump's supporters can simply dismiss the plethora of unsubstantiated claims he has made...seems like every time I think he's finally gotten his shit together he reverts back to his paranoid tendencies.
 
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yankeesince59 said:
^^^I was reading about the wiretapping accusations and I really don't know Trump's supporters can simply dismiss the plethora of unsubstantiated claims he has made...seems like every time I think he's finally gotten his shit together he reverts back to his paranoid tendencies.
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^^^^ personally, I've been having a hard time with accepting; trusting half his Cabinet appointees. I don't feel like we can trust this Administration; a crew of carpetbaggers, liars, cheats, thieves; the swamp got more complex with the replacement of Gator's with Croc's. I expect things to get much worse, before they can get an ounce better....
 
Mattingly23NY said:
^^^^ personally, I've been having a hard time with accepting; trusting half his Cabinet appointees. I don't feel like we can trust this Administration; a crew of carpetbaggers, liars, cheats, thieves; the swamp got more complex with the replacement of Gator's with Croc's. I expect things to get much worse, before they can get an ounce better....
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Mattingly23NY said:
^^^^ personally, I've been having a hard time with accepting; trusting half his Cabinet appointees. I don't feel like we can trust this Administration; a crew of carpetbaggers, liars, cheats, thieves; the swamp got more complex with the replacement of Gator's with Croc's. I expect things to get much worse, before they can get an ounce better....
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The latest accusation with Obama proves he is paranoid. All he has to do is be a president. If he wants to be Reagan, he should watch Utube and Shut Up, dismiss hi tweet fetish. All of you need SRV. 112079202.jpg
 
stampedehero said:
The latest accusation with Obama proves he is paranoid. All he has to do is be a president. If he wants to be Reagan, he should watch Utube and Shut Up, dismiss hi tweet fetish. All of you need SRV. View attachment 12876
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The Donald would have to take classes from Konstantin Stanislavski himself, to emulate Reagan.

as for SRV- one of my fav's-


It's a mortal sin of epic proportions, to mention such a great epic immortal- as SRV was; in the same breath as the neurotic egomaniac know it all, arrogant pompous fraud- DJT... damn, he does need method acting classes...
 
Mattingly23NY said:
The Donald would have to take classes from Konstantin Stanislavski himself, to emulate Reagan.

as for SRV- one of my fav's-


It's a mortal sin of epic proportions, to mention such a great epic immortal- as SRV was; in the same breath as the neurotic egomaniac know it all, arrogant pompous fraud- DJT... damn, he does need method acting classes...
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More SRV fans =More Classy people. 112146381.jpg
 
yankeesince59 said:
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/trump-wiretapping-twitter-white-house-235747
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OMG....not a Shane Goldmacher article.....comeon 59. First this guy is a leftist loon from Berkeley, made his bones in CA dragging Arnold through the mud all the while covering for the democrat party taking the formerly golden state down the financial tubes. That and this guy is an avid SF Giants fan to boot, and Giants fans have no more credibility left on this board, lol!
 
totus44 said:
OMG....not a Shane Goldmacher article.....comeon 59. First this guy is a leftist loon from Berkeley, made his bones in CA dragging Arnold through the mud all the while covering for the democrat party taking the formerly golden state down the financial tubes. That and this guy is an avid SF Giants fan to boot, and Giants fans have no more credibility left on this board, lol!
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:roflmao::roflmao: :notworthy:

What about old Willie Mays fans....?
 
totus44 said:
OMG....not a Shane Goldmacher article.....comeon 59. First this guy is a leftist loon from Berkeley, made his bones in CA dragging Arnold through the mud all the while covering for the democrat party taking the formerly golden state down the financial tubes. That and this guy is an avid SF Giants fan to boot, and Giants fans have no more credibility left on this board, lol!
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...unreal.

...once again instead of questioning the accuracy of an article, you only question the source...like I've said before, "that's not very compelling argument".
 
Anybody here, whether you're a staunch Trump supporter or not, shaking your consumed
heads in disbelief that this man has diminished 'The Presidency' in the "greatest nation"
in the world?
 
You never trumpers do realize this is basically a first draft which will now be debated by the house with amendments undoubtedly added and some things subtracted. Who knows the do nothing protest everything house dems may even choose to participate and add something to the discussion instead of sitting on their asses. Then it goes to the senate to debate and suggest and make their changes. Unfortunately in the senate led by the embarrassing NY so called leader Schmucky Schumer there is no hope for either participation in the discussion or inclination to get something done despite the embarrassment of obamacare, the 2,000 plus page monstrosity that was put through in secret in the middle of the night with the republicans shut out from contributing that was so bad that despite a super majority the senators from nebraska and louisiana had to be bribed at the end for their votes to pass this bill that no one saw or read beforehand and as stated by the still somehow minority leader moron nancy pelosi "you have to pass it so you can find out what's in it". My advice is to hold your fire and wait till the process plays out and see what the final bill turns out to be. Unfortunately, because they don't have 60 votes in the senate and none of the dems will vote for it no matter what it is it will have to be done in a couple of parts so that it can be passed piecemeal so that it can be done with 51 votes as opposed to all at once the right way. Its a shame but to hear the libtards comments that they don't like the initial draft to change what is the healthcare version of the SS Titanic, obamacare when they know the process has just started is disingenuous at best.
 
...^^^ not just the Dems...there's also a lot of Republicans unhappy with this bill. (Obama Care Lite")
 
yankeesince59 said:
..."OMG"...negative press from a right wing outlet?...could this be armageddon?

http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...n-obamacare-replacement-disappointing-failure

http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...-republicans-rollout-obamacare-repeal-replace


...OMG ! :biglaugh:
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I've gotta' bad feelin' this will only further divide a fragmented GOP, while creating more of a mess out of the Un-Affordable health care act, or bad joke...!

Honestly from what I'm seeing here, with promises of not dropping patients/insured with pre-existing conditions; some have recently been utterly fkd over, ie just met several people in a city hall group, whose fate met 'repeal' with no 'replace', wtf, the numbers quoted of those who have been dropped for what should still be invalid reasons to drop insured clients, is much higher than I expected, when all we've heard is "business as usual for now"...with no one knowing which direction this state or nation is going at all.

A flagrant goat fk. I see no shorter lines of people applying like made, cuz they believe Armageddon's coming any day with the AHCA, (UACA). Yes, lines at the Social Security office have been exceptionally long, long enough such has made news headlines. Why the blitz upon SSI offices. Simply, Obese people have been sucking dry and up, benefits for the last 2 years, since Obumacare allowed Obesity to become a Disability my fkng ass. Obesity is a choice. A choice. Tell me there are a few who are obese due to say a Thyroid disease. A few. Even more who have never had thyroid probs, not until after those peeps became very obese; and blow thyroids up or out.

Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I don't know this medical dilemna, and I do believe obesity can also be hereditary/genetic disposition, but I wonder to what extent if so?? The extent of choices, like even if such is predisposed, one still has choices to eat differently, work out, et al. Sorry I can't see how Obesity is a fkng acknowledged disability. Regardless if it were legit, I can't see why one would lump sum obesity for SSI $$$ payouts,
when there are peeps who suffered broken backs, lost limbs, as much, why can't or didn't fkng Obuma pick up VA budget deficincies, enabling Vets to collect more than they see or get, in lieu of increasing payees numbers with obesity claims, drop the obesity and fold in the Vets, jest greaseballin'
 
and why oh why, were illegals ever allowed to tap into our health care system, when they didn't even require having papers or I.(fkng) D.....another wtf-

I'm still waiting for fleets of buses, trains, to ship the millions of illegals back...I don't see the INS at all. Home Depot and Lowe's parking lots are still full of illegals looking for work, less one or two business locations, in parts of town where the County Sheriff actually did something about eliminating illegals in parking lots, w/out hooking, booking, and deporting. No, all they've accomplished is ensuring illegals don't hang out in parking lots, then loosen laws to open more taco trucks, wtf-...
 
Rand Paul calling Trumpcare Dead on Arrival, especially with Sen. Tom Cotton and Ted Cruz also in opposition. The idea that they want to do this in three chunks is fine, but lets not be adding any additional entitlements. Sadly the GOP has had 8 freaking years to plan the end of this atrocity. But first and foremost, repeal the whole thing in its entirety. We already have COBRA overages for when people get laid off....pass a 6 month COBRA bill to cover Obamacare victims, and then build a healthcare overhaul system from scratch. What DC needs is a law that says laws can't be more than 10 pages.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...unreal.

...once again instead of questioning the accuracy of an article, you only question the source...like I've said before, "that's not very compelling argument".
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By questioning the source I am also questioning the accuracy, validity, and quality of the content. Questioning the source is in fact consistent with root cause analysis, if the source is flawed or biased than the published work is by definition not reliable. Scientific method man....and in the age of the internet it helps to research sources.

Look, I'm not trying to insult you. But its been my observation that your sources over the last 9 months are consistently scored left of center. Now maybe you read right of center, but you don't post them. And my assumption, and yes I'm assuming and all that comes with it, is that the lefty stuff agrees with your personal beliefs about Trump. Now that's all well and good, but I do think to are missing some of the man's strategy. If he can deliver then we could see some interesting reversals in our society. YES, his delivery has a lot of undesirable attributes, and the ends to not justify the means. But I actually think he knows that, and the crude attribute is part of the strategy to keep his base engaged and riled up to counter the wacko dems of which there are quite a few. Maybe not where you live...but in California for example I'm happy as hell to has some of my wacko friends totally obsessing over everything Trump does because they cannot see through their anger and are stuck reacting and over reacting and therefore not really obstructing.
 
This deal will be DONE and in 3 parts due to the scumbag senate dems standing in the way and obstructing everything instead of getting off their asses and working for the country like their supposed to. Schumer is a disgrace and embarrassment. Because of the dems they have to do it in piecemeal fashion so they need only 51 votes at a time. Paul, Cotton and cruz will all be on board to get this passed and done. They don't like the 3 parts to do it but in the end they will trust trump to get the other parts done in phase 2 and 3 once one is completed.
 
totus44 said:
By questioning the source I am also questioning the accuracy, validity, and quality of the content. Questioning the source is in fact consistent with root cause analysis, if the source is flawed or biased than the published work is by definition not reliable. Scientific method man....and in the age of the internet it helps to research sources.

Look, I'm not trying to insult you. But its been my observation that your sources over the last 9 months are consistently scored left of center. Now maybe you read right of center, but you don't post them. And my assumption, and yes I'm assuming and all that comes with it, is that the lefty stuff agrees with your personal beliefs about Trump. Now that's all well and good, but I do think to are missing some of the man's strategy. If he can deliver then we could see some interesting reversals in our society. YES, his delivery has a lot of undesirable attributes, and the ends to not justify the means.
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...that's not true...I've posted both sides' views and if it appeared to you otherwise, well, that's probably because I'm not crazy about Trump, never have been, that should not come as a shock to anyone...I've been very vocal about it.
...Trump deservedly provides a lot of negative press all by himself and admit it, he's had a lot more negative press than positive so it would stand to reason that I might post more negative things than positive about him. This ass hat actually gave himself an "A" for his for month or so...seriously? WTF has he actually accomplished?...What promise has he fulfilled?
...I'm not going to be a blind loyal Republican...not gonna happen. ...and when Trump has done something I approve of, I have in fact acknowledged it. see only Dems and Reps while I only see "right and wrong" regardless of party lines. Hell, take a look at how many GOP officials have flip flopped on Trump after being so anti-Trump during the campaign...and Paul Ryan has to be the worst as he's now become Trump's lap dog...it's hilarious.

...and yes, you have been "insulting"...sorry, but just because I don't care for Trump does not make me a "libtard" and I do in fact know The Constitution pretty well whether you realize it or not. As far as me smoking a "doobie", well, fwiw, I have not indulged during the day in many many years. Nowadays, I only smoke pot occasionally in the evenings before bed because it helps me to sleep. An ounce will last me a year.
 
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